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« on: October 11, 2008, 04:32:47 PM »

for those that loved the volleys of stefan Edberg or Patrick Rafter, hold on to your shoes, you may be have that arsenal..
   stroke production on forehands, backhands or volleys can be easily practiced by just hitting, walling or ball feeding, but volleys needs a little technicality in learning it, to be successful.
    due to its quick reflex requirements, in order to be  a good volleyer, you also have to be a good reader.. GOOD READER.. I will elaborate later..
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2008, 04:47:43 PM »

bitin man bro....
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2008, 11:00:30 PM »

ako din nabitin. hahaha! abanagan.... i love serve n volley bro.
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2008, 01:15:12 PM »

oo, aabangan ko din ito.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2008, 02:34:53 PM »

ako din,naka abang na din  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2008, 02:38:14 PM »

hay basa na ko hehe, gusto ko din ng ganitong playing style so i try to mimic what i see during play, hehe.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2008, 03:19:33 PM »

hay basa na ko hehe, gusto ko din ng ganitong playing style so i try to mimic what i see during play, hehe.

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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2008, 03:36:24 PM »

Good anticipation- for the tennis lingo..
  With the proper serve where the transfer of your weight goes forward, the next move is the SPLIT STEP.  this should be a step or two from completing your serve.
The main goal of the split step is to stop from serve to READ YOUR OPPONENTS RETURN.
 The idea is that, awareness of where the ball is heading..
The split step then allows you the best position to do your next move or lounging for the volley..
    The reason behind the stopping from serve is-- it resets your focus from the transition .. from serve to volleying..
  This is the best tool you can use, to cover the court after a serve. This should be programed in your mindset, to get you ready for the volley.
  Location of the split step should be within the vicinity of the serve / square line. This of course depends on your athleticism.. the quicker you are the closer you want to be to the net..
   But the biggest factor is the anticipation of the direction of the opponents return...


  try it.. then we will talk about the puching volleys next....
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2008, 04:39:35 PM »

ok tnx bai  poordoy...kailangan meron demo eto pag uwi mo bai  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2008, 05:08:21 PM »

ok tnx bai  poordoy...kailangan meron demo eto pag uwi mo bai  Grin

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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2008, 05:49:30 PM »

ok tnx bai  poordoy...kailangan meron demo eto pag uwi mo bai  Grin

turuan mo ako tito....

Iaapply mo ba yan kay Papsi?  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2008, 05:55:47 PM »

ok tnx bai  poordoy...kailangan meron demo eto pag uwi mo bai  Grin

turuan mo ako tito....

tito ka jan, pareho lang tayo bai juntabs...pareho lang type natin ba mga daisy  Grin Grin Grin

papa demo tayo pag uwi ni bai poordoy next year
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2008, 06:36:07 PM »

Good anticipation- for the tennis lingo..
  With the proper serve where the transfer of your weight goes forward, the next move is the SPLIT STEP.  this should be a step or two from completing your serve.
The main goal of the split step is to stop from serve to READ YOUR OPPONENTS RETURN.
 The idea is that, awareness of where the ball is heading..
The split step then allows you the best position to do your next move or lounging for the volley..
    The reason behind the stopping from serve is-- it resets your focus from the transition .. from serve to volleying..
  This is the best tool you can use, to cover the court after a serve. This should be programed in your mindset, to get you ready for the volley.
  Location of the split step should be within the vicinity of the serve / square line. This of course depends on your athleticism.. the quicker you are the closer you want to be to the net..
   But the biggest factor is the anticipation of the direction of the opponents return...


  try it.. then we will talk about the puching volleys next....
I will try this.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2008, 11:42:21 AM »

bai poordoy nagkita nata dinha sa america sa una. sa Banning, Longbeach nag commercial ata!
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 11:41:20 AM »

Good anticipation- for the tennis lingo..
  With the proper serve where the transfer of your weight goes forward, the next move is the SPLIT STEP.  this should be a step or two from completing your serve.
The main goal of the split step is to stop from serve to READ YOUR OPPONENTS RETURN.
 The idea is that, awareness of where the ball is heading..
The split step then allows you the best position to do your next move or lounging for the volley..
    The reason behind the stopping from serve is-- it resets your focus from the transition .. from serve to volleying..
  This is the best tool you can use, to cover the court after a serve. This should be programed in your mindset, to get you ready for the volley.
  Location of the split step should be within the vicinity of the serve / square line. This of course depends on your athleticism.. the quicker you are the closer you want to be to the net..
   But the biggest factor is the anticipation of the direction of the opponents return...


  try it.. then we will talk about the puching volleys next....

I tried this before.. its too complicated... needs more pratice for this... how about the punching volley... forehand and backhand... Huh coach. Wink
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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2008, 12:40:42 PM »

thanks so much! Grin
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« Reply #16 on: October 14, 2008, 02:10:07 PM »

bai poordoy nagkita nata dinha sa america sa una. sa Banning, Longbeach nag commercial ata!
ano nga ba itsora mo? ilang taon ka na noon? ngayon?
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2008, 03:35:47 AM »

the best way to practice serve and volley is to play lots of doubles. john mcenroe used his doubles competition as practice. which greatly helped his singles game. although way past his prime for singles. he still has what it takes to win doubles matches.
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2008, 01:16:42 PM »

though there are time i would venture into the net (i am not comfortable though), i would still prefer to slug it out at the baseline to win (or lose) the point, hehehehehe Grin
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2008, 06:02:52 PM »

bai poordoy nagkita nata dinha sa america sa una. sa Banning, Longbeach nag commercial ata!

When was that SLP...I also played there with Freddie Q against Lito Roxas and Rod Suarez
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2008, 10:54:28 AM »

pinoy pro,

Rod suarez very closed to me. I stayed in his place in palm spring before. That was 1992, I think. I remember sila Lito Roxas, Freddie Quijano, Oye, Kuyang....naalala mo sa banning kalaban ko vietnamese ata yun at ka doubles ko si Jun Toledo. I'm 42 yo at present
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2008, 04:50:43 AM »

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   nakita ko yung you tube mo, ang energetic mo pa rin pala, at 42. h ehe. Do you feel slowing down any? hows your game now? in shape? do u try to stay sharp? I first lost my eye clarity, then i realize my reflex slows down some. now the mind is willing but the body refuses.. he he
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2008, 02:38:10 AM »

pinoy pro,

Rod suarez very closed to me. I stayed in his place in palm spring before. That was 1992, I think. I remember sila Lito Roxas, Freddie Quijano, Oye, Kuyang....naalala mo sa banning kalaban ko vietnamese ata yun at ka doubles ko si Jun Toledo. I'm 42 yo at present
Ikaw ba si CP?? I think, paalis na ako ng magstart kang sumali sa open. My last game was against Manny Tolentino sa Olivarez (1987 ata yun). When are you coming back here? let me know E-mail mo ako or tell carla to let me know. Regards to all of you
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2008, 09:36:19 PM »

may question po ako. kung hindi ganun kalakas ang service mo, is serve and volley still advisable? looking forward to your reply sir poordoy and thanks in advance!  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2008, 09:43:34 PM »

may question po ako. kung hindi ganun kalakas ang service mo, is serve and volley still advisable? looking forward to your reply sir poordoy and thanks in advance!  Grin
good question third, usually yung mga serve n volley players eh malalakas tlaga serve,
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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2008, 10:00:02 PM »

may question po ako. kung hindi ganun kalakas ang service mo, is serve and volley still advisable? looking forward to your reply sir poordoy and thanks in advance!  Grin
good question third, usually yung mga serve n volley players eh malalakas tlaga serve,

yes jov. di lang malakas dapat effective.
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« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2008, 12:39:56 PM »

jov,
   if you have a slow serve, it may/can work for you. the point in serve and volleying is to get close to net before the ball returns to you. and you would have time to set up and read the incoming return.. that is an advantage..
   the bad side is...if your serve is a setter, then you will be a target practice.. and that being said, all of these depends on your level of play. but practically, a slow serve could be a plus on a serve and volley game, as long as it does not feed to the strenght of your opponent. Your serve should OUTBALANCE your opponent whether you can deliver a wicked spin, kick, side or whatever, a good placement or just plain intimidating execution. Don't overlook the effectiveness of hard fast flat serve with a slow but wicked spin or even an unreadable serve. If you have been around a while, im sure you know someone that serve so awkward that it so difficult to return.. ..
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« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2008, 01:00:34 PM »

hola sir poordoy, u have a very good point there sir! thank u po sa tips! ill keep that in mind,  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2009, 10:59:33 PM »

jov,
   if you have a slow serve, it may/can work for you. the point in serve and volleying is to get close to net before the ball returns to you. and you would have time to set up and read the incoming return.. that is an advantage..
   the bad side is...if your serve is a setter, then you will be a target practice.. and that being said, all of these depends on your level of play. but practically, a slow serve could be a plus on a serve and volley game, as long as it does not feed to the strenght of your opponent. Your serve should OUTBALANCE your opponent whether you can deliver a wicked spin, kick, side or whatever, a good placement or just plain intimidating execution. Don't overlook the effectiveness of hard fast flat serve with a slow but wicked spin or even an unreadable serve. If you have been around a while, im sure you know someone that serve so awkward that it so difficult to return.. ..




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« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2009, 12:26:06 PM »

jov,
   if you have a slow serve, it may/can work for you. the point in serve and volleying is to get close to net before the ball returns to you. and you would have time to set up and read the incoming return.. that is an advantage..
   the bad side is...if your serve is a setter, then you will be a target practice.. and that being said, all of these depends on your level of play. but practically, a slow serve could be a plus on a serve and volley game, as long as it does not feed to the strenght of your opponent. Your serve should OUTBALANCE your opponent whether you can deliver a wicked spin, kick, side or whatever, a good placement or just plain intimidating execution. Don't overlook the effectiveness of hard fast flat serve with a slow but wicked spin or even an unreadable serve. If you have been around a while, im sure you know someone that serve so awkward that it so difficult to return.. ..


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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2010, 06:43:28 AM »

dami pa pala mga good tips dito sa PTO na di ko pa nakikita. I'll try this tomorrow.

Good anticipation- for the tennis lingo..
  With the proper serve where the transfer of your weight goes forward, the next move is the SPLIT STEP.  this should be a step or two from completing your serve.
The main goal of the split step is to stop from serve to READ YOUR OPPONENTS RETURN.
 The idea is that, awareness of where the ball is heading..
The split step then allows you the best position to do your next move or lounging for the volley..
    The reason behind the stopping from serve is-- it resets your focus from the transition .. from serve to volleying..
  This is the best tool you can use, to cover the court after a serve. This should be programed in your mindset, to get you ready for the volley.
  Location of the split step should be within the vicinity of the serve / square line. This of course depends on your athleticism.. the quicker you are the closer you want to be to the net..
   But the biggest factor is the anticipation of the direction of the opponents return...


  try it.. then we will talk about the puching volleys next....
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« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2010, 02:43:03 PM »

hirap ako sa serve & volley na kalaban.. natataranta ako pag may biglang nasa net na!



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« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2010, 02:47:43 PM »

pre, contratahin mo na yung kalaban mo bago pa mag start yung game. sabihin mo walang lapitan sa net! hehehe! joke. seriously speaking, kelangan mo lang maging confident sa defensive na lobo na tira para alam mong may panlaban ka pag lumapit na yung kalaban sa net. practice lang pre.

hirap ako sa serve & volley na kalaban.. natataranta ako pag may biglang nasa net na!



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« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2010, 03:13:51 PM »

serve and vollyer din ako, ky lang hirap ako pag down the line ang return. tapos pag na sa harap ka na biglang i lob lang nde pa nmn ako mabilis tumakbo. hehehehe
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2010, 03:15:54 PM »

yup, just like what I told Meng, medyo mahirap tumakbo pa atras pag magaling mag lobo ang kalaban. kelangan mabilis tumakbo and magaling mag anticipate para abutan mo yung defensive lob sayo ng kalaban mo.

serve and vollyer din ako, ky lang hirap ako pag down the line ang return. tapos pag na sa harap ka na biglang i lob lang nde pa nmn ako mabilis tumakbo. hehehehe
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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2010, 03:18:16 PM »

yup, just like what I told Meng, medyo mahirap tumakbo pa atras pag magaling mag lobo ang kalaban. kelangan mabilis tumakbo and magaling mag anticipate para abutan mo yung defensive lob sayo ng kalaban mo.

serve and vollyer din ako, ky lang hirap ako pag down the line ang return. tapos pag na sa harap ka na biglang i lob lang nde pa nmn ako mabilis tumakbo. hehehehe

mabilis humabol yan si Meng, lahat ng bola hinahabol  Wink
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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2010, 03:21:58 PM »

parang Nadal ba pre? walang pinapalusot?
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« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2010, 03:36:51 PM »

mahirap saluhin ang return na mababa yung pasok sa loob ng service line tapos medyo stretch ka pa. sa tingin ko ang secret ng magandang serve and volley tactic is yung first volley placement. dapat super defense yung kalaban sa unang volley mo para pag nag defensive lob (ultimate defensive lob) mas malaki chance na smash mo ng maayos kasi basta na lang nya ilolob yun.

ang daling sabihin hirap gawin. ayan ang goal ko. 1 year ko na ginagawa yan minsan nakakachamba. masyado akong makulit. nababadtrip na ata kakampi ko pag ganun. pero wapakels ako. yun ang teknik na gusto ko maging consistent. mahirap pero kelangan. kasi prone ako sa pulikat at stamina breakdown. hahaha!
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« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2010, 03:40:19 PM »

tama Miks, practice lang and don't be afraid to try it sa game pero mas maganda kung magpapa palo ka din or magpa training na yun lang gagawin ng paulit ulit para hindi naman nakakahiya sa partner mo na sa game ka nagprapractice... hehehe! =)

mahirap saluhin ang return na mababa yung pasok sa loob ng service line tapos medyo stretch ka pa. sa tingin ko ang secret ng magandang serve and volley tactic is yung first volley placement. dapat super defense yung kalaban sa unang volley mo para pag nag defensive lob (ultimate defensive lob) mas malaki chance na smash mo ng maayos kasi basta na lang nya ilolob yun.

ang daling sabihin hirap gawin. ayan ang goal ko. 1 year ko na ginagawa yan minsan nakakachamba. masyado akong makulit. nababadtrip na ata kakampi ko pag ganun. pero wapakels ako. yun ang teknik na gusto ko maging consistent. mahirap pero kelangan. kasi prone ako sa pulikat at stamina breakdown. hahaha!
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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2010, 05:11:00 PM »

yup, just like what I told Meng, medyo mahirap tumakbo pa atras pag magaling mag lobo ang kalaban. kelangan mabilis tumakbo and magaling mag anticipate para abutan mo yung defensive lob sayo ng kalaban mo.

serve and vollyer din ako, ky lang hirap ako pag down the line ang return. tapos pag na sa harap ka na biglang i lob lang nde pa nmn ako mabilis tumakbo. hehehehe

mabilis humabol yan si Meng, lahat ng bola hinahabol  Wink
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« Reply #41 on: August 17, 2010, 05:17:44 PM »

si Darkwing "dw" ang nagturo kay Meng? 

yup, just like what I told Meng, medyo mahirap tumakbo pa atras pag magaling mag lobo ang kalaban. kelangan mabilis tumakbo and magaling mag anticipate para abutan mo yung defensive lob sayo ng kalaban mo.

serve and vollyer din ako, ky lang hirap ako pag down the line ang return. tapos pag na sa harap ka na biglang i lob lang nde pa nmn ako mabilis tumakbo. hehehehe

mabilis humabol yan si Meng, lahat ng bola hinahabol  Wink
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« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2010, 06:32:06 PM »

tama Miks, practice lang and don't be afraid to try it sa game pero mas maganda kung magpapa palo ka din or magpa training na yun lang gagawin ng paulit ulit para hindi naman nakakahiya sa partner mo na sa game ka nagprapractice... hehehe! =)


tama pre. kaso wala na akong time pa magpapalo/training. kasi sayang kung once or twice a week lang. slow learner pa naman ako. ang aking muscle memory e makalimutin pa. hahaha! kaya yung match mismo yung praktis ko. ang kailangan ko improve yung "anticipation" para di ako mapassing shot ng ganun ganun lang. kaso sa case ko at level ko ang dali ako ipassingshot. nyahahaha! pero sensya na. makulit talaga ako. pag rally lang mas maraming time ako sa net kesa baseline kasi nakakapagod sa baseline e. hehehe.

note: half-volleys and half volley dropshot ang pinakamahirap sa lahat.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2010, 06:46:41 PM »

tama ka mikki, you have to have a good "touch" skill to be able to execute a half-volley dropshot. not really sure kung tama yung term na ginamit ko pero bottom line is kelangan malupit ang control mo sa bola and racquet para ma execute tong shot na to.  Wink
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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2010, 06:54:15 PM »

hindi lang control sa raketa ang importante, dapat body control din
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« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2010, 06:56:11 PM »

tama ka din sir daryl! =)
hindi lang control sa raketa ang importante, dapat body control din
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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2010, 12:38:06 AM »

I'm more a baseliner than a serve and volley player. I find it harder to move forward/backward than sideways, and since I have short reach and height, madaling mag-passing shot or overhead shot yung kalaban (ha ha ha). I believe that in order to be a good player you have to learn to serve and volley effectively. I'm just not comfortable or confident doing it.

tama Miks, practice lang and don't be afraid to try it sa game pero mas maganda kung magpapa palo ka din or magpa training na yun lang gagawin ng paulit ulit para hindi naman nakakahiya sa partner mo na sa game ka nagprapractice... hehehe! =)


tama pre. kaso wala na akong time pa magpapalo/training. kasi sayang kung once or twice a week lang. slow learner pa naman ako. ang aking muscle memory e makalimutin pa. hahaha! kaya yung match mismo yung praktis ko. ang kailangan ko improve yung "anticipation" para di ako mapassing shot ng ganun ganun lang. kaso sa case ko at level ko ang dali ako ipassingshot. nyahahaha! pero sensya na. makulit talaga ako. pag rally lang mas maraming time ako sa net kesa baseline kasi nakakapagod sa baseline e. hehehe.

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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2010, 07:35:08 PM »

kelangan din ng resistensya pag serve & volley Wink
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« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2010, 02:07:27 AM »

kelangan din ng resistensya pag serve & volley Wink
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hehe! much more sa baseline ilang takbo yun. sabayan pa ng pagswing.  Grin
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« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2010, 05:33:26 AM »

No wonder Edberg is your idol, he's a classic serve & volley player and one of the best at that..

kelangan din ng resistensya pag serve & volley Wink
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hehe! much more sa baseline ilang takbo yun. sabayan pa ng pagswing.  Grin
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