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Rich parents would love this pin. This will limit the competition to the advantage of their kids. Whoever patronizes this pin is not after the betterment of tennis since majority of the better junior players will not be able to afford it thus limiting the participants. How can we discover young and deserving players with this kind of a program of limiting participants. If we are really concerned about the improvement and promotion of tennis, we should be united and boycott this unjust policy. How can an organization run without members? As long as nobody will bite their offer, it will not push through.
Based on my Phil Amateur swimming association experience, Mark Joseph is on the way out because the parents and coaches were united. They did not pay pasa expensive fees and instead boycotted Mark's program and ousted him.
Re davao rvp, for export na to visayas and luzon. Wala na siyang tournament dito kaya tinapun na sa ibang lugar. Wala na siyang maloko dito. Steffi's mom is the sister of davao rvp.
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« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2008, 10:16:29 AM » |
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« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2008, 02:34:30 PM » |
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Rich parents would love this pin. This will limit the competition to the advantage of their kids. Whoever patronizes this pin is not after the betterment of tennis since majority of the better junior players will not be able to afford it thus limiting the participants. How can we discover young and deserving players with this kind of a program of limiting participants. If we are really concerned about the improvement and promotion of tennis, we should be united and boycott this unjust policy. How can an organization run without members? As long as nobody will bite their offer, it will not push through.
Based on my Phil Amateur swimming association experience, Mark Joseph is on the way out because the parents and coaches were united. They did not pay pasa expensive fees and instead boycotted Mark's program and ousted him.
Re davao rvp, for export na to visayas and luzon. Wala na siyang tournament dito kaya tinapun na sa ibang lugar. Wala na siyang maloko dito. Steffi's mom is the sister of davao rvp.
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« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2008, 06:51:56 PM » |
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hmmmmm ... gawa din tayo ng ID natin. lets use mifare technology... cost of card is less than 100php!! smart card din un with print na!
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« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2008, 07:12:49 PM » |
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hmmmmm ... gawa din tayo ng ID natin. lets use mifare technology... cost of card is less than 100php!! smart card din un with print na!
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« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2008, 09:19:50 PM » |
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SIR RENALD! VERY WELL SAID MABUHAY KA!... RE. TPO/PTO CANVASS TAYO MAS CHEAP DAMI DYAN! I WILL ASK YUN PARANG DRIVERS LICENSE ANG DATING Meron akong kasama gumagawa ng ID. |
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« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2008, 09:24:41 PM » |
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CGE NGA PARTNER INQUIRE MO NGA ..TAYO MAG BIGAY DESIGN TAPOS PA COST MO |
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« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2008, 09:42:58 PM » |
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CGE NGA PARTNER INQUIRE MO NGA ..TAYO MAG BIGAY DESIGN TAPOS PA COST MO Note pres nag text na ko.... |
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« Reply #59 on: October 06, 2008, 09:44:48 PM » |
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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2008, 01:23:48 PM » |
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hmmmmm ... gawa din tayo ng ID natin. lets use mifare technology... cost of card is less than 100php!! smart card din un with print na!
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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2008, 01:33:54 PM » |
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Gusto ko yang smart card ah. Para pag meron akong hindi kayang sagutin, sya ang bahalang sumagot.  |
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« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2008, 01:37:28 PM » |
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Gusto ko yang smart card ah. Para pag meron akong hindi kayang sagutin, sya ang bahalang sumagot. ok un DW, SMART nga... |
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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2008, 02:15:05 PM » |
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UNIFORM, ID, STICKERS ANO PA BA? ANG DAMI NA AH.. PEDE NA TAYO MAGTAYO NG STORE NG TP.ORG.. PAKI POST NA LANG PO PAG AVAILABLE NA!!! |
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« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2008, 02:48:35 PM » |
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meron na kong PIN.... pardible... ahhahah. mahal kc kaya wala pa kami ng anak ko..... dagdag sa tuition fee ng anak ung 500 pesos.... LVL naka register na ba c daugther mo nope, not yet. Thinking aloud lang, how much would be the actual cost if we outsource this (issuance of PIN) from Philta? As you mentioned, smart cards would cost just 100.00 pesos. |
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« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2008, 07:13:54 PM » |
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meron na kong PIN.... pardible... ahhahah. mahal kc kaya wala pa kami ng anak ko..... dagdag sa tuition fee ng anak ung 500 pesos.... LVL naka register na ba c daugther mo nope, not yet. Thinking aloud lang, how much would be the actual cost if we outsource this (issuance of PIN) from Philta? As you mentioned, smart cards would cost just 100.00 pesos. Sir LVL this smart card ba is the one with computer chip inside? |
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« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2008, 07:19:03 PM » |
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meron na kong PIN.... pardible... ahhahah. mahal kc kaya wala pa kami ng anak ko..... dagdag sa tuition fee ng anak ung 500 pesos.... LVL naka register na ba c daugther mo nope, not yet. Thinking aloud lang, how much would be the actual cost if we outsource this (issuance of PIN) from Philta? As you mentioned, smart cards would cost just 100.00 pesos. Sir LVL this smart card ba is the one with computer chip inside? yun nga! .88USD plain card, tapos shipping plus printing... d pa abot ng 100php un. |
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« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2008, 07:20:36 PM » |
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meron na kong PIN.... pardible... ahhahah. mahal kc kaya wala pa kami ng anak ko..... dagdag sa tuition fee ng anak ung 500 pesos.... LVL naka register na ba c daugther mo nope, not yet. Thinking aloud lang, how much would be the actual cost if we outsource this (issuance of PIN) from Philta? As you mentioned, smart cards would cost just 100.00 pesos. Sir LVL this smart card ba is the one with computer chip inside? yun nga! .88USD plain card, tapos shipping plus printing... d pa abot ng 100php un. Pano naman natin gagamitin yung card lam ko lang like sa office namin gamit namin yung id for door access. |
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« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2008, 07:22:18 PM » |
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meron na kong PIN.... pardible... ahhahah. mahal kc kaya wala pa kami ng anak ko..... dagdag sa tuition fee ng anak ung 500 pesos.... LVL naka register na ba c daugther mo nope, not yet. Thinking aloud lang, how much would be the actual cost if we outsource this (issuance of PIN) from Philta? As you mentioned, smart cards would cost just 100.00 pesos. Sir LVL this smart card ba is the one with computer chip inside? yun nga! .88USD plain card, tapos shipping plus printing... d pa abot ng 100php un. Pano naman natin gagamitin yung card lam ko lang like sa office namin gamit namin yung id for door access. proximity card un sinasabi mo. kabit natin sa laptop ung reader. lahat info nandun na! |
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« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2008, 07:36:05 PM » |
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Maganda nga ito tapos makahanap tayo ng mga shops na pwde natin kausapin na magbigay ng discounts sa mga card holders
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« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2008, 08:13:09 PM » |
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Maganda nga ito tapos makahanap tayo ng mga shops na pwde natin kausapin na magbigay ng discounts sa mga card holders
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« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2008, 10:55:57 AM » |
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GUYS ! I.D. MAY NAME NG ORGANISATION NAME NG BEARER PIRMA NG OFFICER NG ORG. PICTURE NG BEARER PALAGAY KO AYOS NA!
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« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2008, 07:13:53 PM » |
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Nikki! did you avail na sa pin ng philta? nope hindi ako kumuha eh..haha..protest bah?? |
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« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2008, 07:18:47 PM » |
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« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2008, 03:05:28 AM » |
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USTA is $40/year. here's my opinion. i agree. and look at the bright side, if everyone is a member. PHILTA would be able to start implementing programs that are long overdue. but again, memberships are not enough. corporate partners are needed to help with this cause. hi PTO/TP.org family! I believe that I would not be able to comment on this issue without being unbiased because I am a tennis parent and I have a daughter who is an age grouper. This is my 2 centavos worth on this issue:
To my knowledge, the practice of issuing PIN or membership numbers to its members is done in most countries. The USTA issues a USTA membership number (renewable yearly at USD 18.00 or you can avail of a 5 year membership at a discounted rate) same as ITF (IPIN). Now, it seems like the PHILTA is adopting this policy. While having a PHILTA membership has several benefits as listed in the circular signed by Mr. Villanueva, they are not what you may really call as value added service. To begin with, Philta must provide a tennis calendar so everyone is aware of the schedules of the tournaments or it must provide the players with the rankings. Item C in the Philta memo is quite ambigous. If having a Philta ID allows my daughter to compete in ITF or ATF sanctioned tournaments then having a Philta membership ID is really value added service and worth procuring. In relation to this, having a USTA I.D. entitles the member to a 10% discount on tennis equipment, shoes, apparel, etc. that having it is provides REAL benefit to the member. There are more tangible benefits to being a USTA member which I have to research on. The point is, the added cost of having a PHILTA membership must not be geared towards earning more revenues for Philta but rather, to augment to the support that it should extend to the development of tennis. Having said this, I guess what Philta should have done was:
1) Move down the deadline on getting the Philta membership ID to 1 January 2009 pending discussions with all concerned parties
2) Forge partnership with different tennis vendors so certain discounts may be extended to Philta ID holders so that the cost in getting a Philta ID could be recovered.
3) Offer discounted court rates at Rizal Memorial tennis courts for Philta ID holders
4) Provide detailed mechanics on the procurement of such membership i.e.(is the ID valid until Dec. 2008 or valid for 1 year to expire on the date the ID was procured)?
5) Provide other value added services for Philta ID holders
6) Provision of regular development/training for members
note: Please add to the above list
For more info about the USTA, you may visit USTA.com
In closing, I believe that Philta's decision to implement something like this akin to USTA or ITF should be viewed as a blessing rather than a curse. First, when Philta tries to assimilate the "best practices" of a tennis organization, it cannot just focus on collection of membership dues but it must also address the REAL responsibilities and accountability that go with it much like what USTA and other tennis organizations are doing. Next, it gives the tennis public the opportunity to demand ACCOUNTABILITY from Philta and to demand from Philta that it RATIONALIZE and JUSTIFY its existence as the Custodian of Philippine tennis. Finally, this serves as a compelling factor for Philta to improve on its services and be one of the better run sports association in the Philippines. Once PHILTA is able to do so, let us support it to the best of our abilities. This is of course a huge huge challenge. It will be tough for Philta to effect changes on its own. I believe it needs the prodding and support and reminder and encouragement and chastisement and help and a lot of other things from all sectors and from all Filipinos most specially from Filipino tennis supporters. As demonstrated by the PTO Helpline, there are hundreds of ways for us to extend assistance. May God bless Philippine Tennis!
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« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2008, 10:55:55 AM » |
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I AGREE WITH JUNBUG YUN DAPAT UNAHIN |
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« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2008, 10:59:13 AM » |
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« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2008, 04:54:33 PM » |
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Oo nga naman. Bakit napaka mahal? Kung gusto tumulong para sa kabutihan ng tennis dapat minimal cost tapos malaki ang benefit. Ito parang fund raising para sa philta. Tennis vendors like my self can extend big discounts to encourage people to get into tennis. Hindi kailangan ng 500 na ID.
Actually kita yan para sa rvp na mangungulekta. Tulad lang ng registration fee ng club at sanction fee ng tournaments.
Dapat pasikatin ng philta ulit ang tennis at ang mga sponsors ang hahabul sa tennis para mag support. Pag sikat ang sport, maraming sponsors gaya ng PBA.
Dito sa Davao, we have Davao Association of Tennis Clubs(DATeC). We have more than 30 member clubs. Ginawa to dahil yung philta rvp dito, alam mona...... May sarili kaming mga tournaments para sa adult (quarterly) kids summer and x'mas. Nung summer may 4 legs sa kids. Prince, wilson and dunlop ang sponsors. Head nalang ang supporter ng philta dito.
DATeC has its own tennis academy for kids. Although 2 years palang tong academy. Hindi kailangan ang philta, basta may activities lang sa lugar niyo.
Just remember, pag walang nag register para sa id, walang makakasali sa tournamnet, patay lalo ang philta dahil requirement yan ng ITF na i promote ang tennis. Kailangan nila ng participants in short. Baka maging free lunch para sumali tayo sa tournament at sumoporta.
haha wait!! ung rvp parang alam ko cnu yan..hahahah.la lang  i won't mention a name pero i think i know that guy.. i used to play age group tournaments before in dvo, but then conflicts and pandadaya, bias, and so much more have occured..kaya i stopped and avoid joining tennis tournaments in davao.bwahaha sorry..the worst part is hindi lang ako, pati buong group namin sa CDO binanned nmin ang pagsali sa dvo dahil lng sa sistemang gnagamit nla..la lang share lng..i dunno if ganito pa rin ngayon,tagal na kc un e.hihi talaga?? oh my. diba steffi dizon's dad... your friend is an active memeber of the davao tennis?? i know stef's dad but i dont know if he is part of the scams and scandals.yes she is an active member because taga dun siya sa davao. what kind of pandadaya ba? |
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« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2008, 05:02:28 PM » |
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Kaya ng PTO yan. E di humiwalay n lang tyo sa PHILTA. INDIE kumbaga. Get my point? Wag tyong umasa sa PHILTAor any Tennis Associations dito. Magsimula tyo ng tyo tyo lang.
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« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2008, 05:11:02 PM » |
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Kaya ng PTO yan. E di humiwalay n lang tyo sa PHILTA. INDIE kumbaga. Get my point? Wag tyong umasa sa PHILTAor any Tennis Associations dito. Magsimula tyo ng tyo tyo lang.
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« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2008, 05:24:55 PM » |
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USTA is $40/year.
here's my opinion. i agree. and look at the bright side, if everyone is a member. PHILTA would be able to start implementing programs that are long overdue. but again, memberships are not enough. corporate partners are needed to help with this cause.
Greetings Junbug: Thanks for sharing your opinions. This is easier said than done. I'm sure everyone would gladly pay if only they have the resources. Think of the grassroots players, our ballboys who has the passion for the game but hardly has enough even to buy a decent pair of tennis shoes. Do you expect them to pay 500php a year just to secure their PIN? If they have the money do you think they'd be picking up balls for a measly P25 per game? The bright side that I see is, if we can develop a strong and effective grassroots program, initiated by an effective and charismatic PHILTA Official. Thus gaining popular support from would be sponsors from the private sector. Again, we need everybody's contribution on this endevour. Leadership is not the position you attain by being installed by the powers that be. It is the following and confidence in your leadership by the very people you govern because they believe you can something good for the sport. |
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« Reply #83 on: October 12, 2008, 10:41:37 AM » |
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« Reply #84 on: August 17, 2009, 05:16:25 PM » |
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Apologies guys. UP ko lang ito mukhang HOT topic na naman po yata.
Reason? -> PHILTA has now implemented the no PIN no ratings / rankings rule.
I'm a new member of PTO and only realised now that this is such a divisive topic. I guess whether we like it or not some amount of discussions / ideas will come out of this because it affects us all.
Cooler heads lang po.
First question ko - Anybody here an official or in anyway affiliated with PHILTA? The reason I ask is - please ask them to read the thread - this way they will know what people are saying about the PIN.
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« Reply #85 on: August 18, 2009, 12:14:40 PM » |
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Apologies guys. UP ko lang ito mukhang HOT topic na naman po yata.
Reason? -> PHILTA has now implemented the no PIN no ratings / rankings rule.
I'm a new member of PTO and only realised now that this is such a divisive topic. I guess whether we like it or not some amount of discussions / ideas will come out of this because it affects us all.
Cooler heads lang po.
First question ko - Anybody here an official or in anyway affiliated with PHILTA? The reason I ask is - please ask them to read the thread - this way they will know what people are saying about the PIN.
Cheers,
Hi Tenmirage Looks like Philta went ahead of this project .well its there already tsk tsk.. lets wait and see what will happen. you know some of our members ,have sons and daughters ,that are age groupers , so i think.. lets just wait for further development .. for sure ,they dont want to antagonize PHILTA GODS |
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« Reply #86 on: August 18, 2009, 12:16:44 PM » |
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Apologies guys. UP ko lang ito mukhang HOT topic na naman po yata.
Reason? -> PHILTA has now implemented the no PIN no ratings / rankings rule.
I'm a new member of PTO and only realised now that this is such a divisive topic. I guess whether we like it or not some amount of discussions / ideas will come out of this because it affects us all.
Cooler heads lang po.
First question ko - Anybody here an official or in anyway affiliated with PHILTA? The reason I ask is - please ask them to read the thread - this way they will know what people are saying about the PIN.
Cheers,
Hi Tenmirage Looks like Philta went ahead of this project .well its there already tsk tsk.. lets wait and see what will happen. you know some of our members ,have sons and daughters ,that are age groupers , so i think.. lets just wait for further development .. for sure ,they dont want to antagonize PHILTA GODS Does other tennis governing body has this? like USTA? |
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« Reply #87 on: August 18, 2009, 12:22:14 PM » |
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Apologies guys. UP ko lang ito mukhang HOT topic na naman po yata.
Reason? -> PHILTA has now implemented the no PIN no ratings / rankings rule.
I'm a new member of PTO and only realised now that this is such a divisive topic. I guess whether we like it or not some amount of discussions / ideas will come out of this because it affects us all.
Cooler heads lang po.
First question ko - Anybody here an official or in anyway affiliated with PHILTA? The reason I ask is - please ask them to read the thread - this way they will know what people are saying about the PIN.
Cheers,
Hi Tenmirage Looks like Philta went ahead of this project .well its there already tsk tsk.. lets wait and see what will happen. you know some of our members ,have sons and daughters ,that are age groupers , so i think.. lets just wait for further development .. for sure ,they dont want to antagonize PHILTA GODS Does other tennis governing body has this? like USTA? Yes Partner Almost all ,have this , but with lots of benefits for the players , as Tenmirage said ,with insurance and a lot more!!! |
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« Reply #88 on: September 01, 2009, 05:55:53 PM » |
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« Reply #90 on: September 01, 2009, 08:46:25 PM » |
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The points were credited but the names were withheld, blackmail. I hope Philta can justify the P 500 fee. Calling Sir Ed Puno.... we hope PHILTA justify the fees. Bakit si Ed? |
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« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2009, 11:07:51 PM » |
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The points were credited but the names were withheld, blackmail. I hope Philta can justify the P 500 fee. Calling Sir Ed Puno.... we hope PHILTA justify the fees. Bakit pa nila pina join? kung hindi rin nila ilalagay ang names thats alot of B.S |
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« Reply #93 on: September 02, 2009, 01:08:39 PM » |
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Sir Nadale, ask ko lang.. sino connect ni Ed Puno sa Philta? Sir Addie, he is the tournament director and President of JUNTAPHIL..... Ofcourse a promising leader on Philippine Tennis......I hope my source is right.... |
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« Reply #96 on: September 02, 2009, 02:31:36 PM » |
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Sir Nadale, ask ko lang.. sino connect ni Ed Puno sa Philta? Sir Addie, he is the tournament director and President of JUNTAPHIL..... Ofcourse a promising leader on Philippine Tennis......I hope my source is right.... ummm ok ...sana nga!!! parang takot din ang Philta na ma question ..eh ..andon ang points wala ang name.. pag may reklamo at hindi nila kaya .ilalagay lang nila yung name ng player |
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SLP888
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« Reply #97 on: September 04, 2009, 05:11:40 PM » |
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Ed Puno came here last week and we had dinner together with Tennis asstn. leaders here and exchanges ideas about the development of tennis. I think he has no touch with Philta because Juntaphil has their own program.
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Tennis is my Love, Tennis is my Job, Tennis is my Wife, Tennis is my Life, That's why I played Tennis to have a wonderful life.
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« Reply #98 on: September 05, 2009, 05:58:37 PM » |
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Ed Puno came here last week and we had dinner together with Tennis asstn. leaders here and exchanges ideas about the development of tennis. I think he has no touch with Philta because Juntaphil has their own program.
Maybe he can make representation with Philta ,to scrap the Pin.. nilalagay din naman nila points and ranking ng players .. ala nga lang yung mga names |
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« Reply #99 on: September 06, 2009, 12:56:48 PM » |
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