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« on: September 29, 2006, 09:37:51 AM » |
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What's up with PHILTA nowadays. Not much Men's Open tournaments. Not enough level 4 or 5 TTF junior tournaments.Not enough junior tournaments. No Philta website. What's Philta's program in the future?
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2006, 10:04:07 AM » |
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Hi Lux! I suggest you email them. I'll pm you the email address of the contact person.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2006, 04:22:35 PM » |
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hay may PHILTA pa ba? tsk tsk
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2006, 12:14:15 AM » |
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What's up with PHILTA nowadays. Not much Men's Open tournaments. Not enough level 4 or 5 TTF junior tournaments.Not enough junior tournaments. No Philta website. What's Philta's program in the future?
hay naku lux masanay ka na sa philta and other sport agencies dito sa pinas. yung pro nga natin na homegrown (if you'll include tierro) eh dalawa lang. hindi pa ganun ka progressive.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2006, 12:05:17 PM » |
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Sabi ko nga kay Admin Jong, sariling kayod muna...
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2006, 12:59:50 AM » |
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Sad to say, Bottom line is MONEY! No financial support form the sponsors. Nobody will support to the Asst'n who's officials have no Idea how to promote Tennis but promote only his sons. As far as I know, There's a lot Tennis enthusiasts who are willing to support Tennis but not with Philta. Let's just support PTO. o.k. ba sa inyo.
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2006, 09:40:13 PM » |
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Supporta din ako!
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2006, 03:15:39 AM » |
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Can you imagine the face of Philippine tennis right now is Philippine Tennis Online. Even Goodwill tennis relies on this website. Again, I commend Admin. Jong, LVL 307, and others who made this website possible.A lot of tennis enthusiasts, former pinoy tennis greats, and upcoming pinoy and filams are lurking at this site. So let's all support this site!
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2006, 01:00:41 PM » |
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Many many thanks sa inyong lahat! I believe we should brainstorm and pool our ideas together on how we can support and help uplift Philippine Tennis. Inputs from everyone will be very very helpful. Kung sa billiard ay may Bata Reyes/Alcano/Bustamante tayo, sa boxing ay may Pacquaio tayo, I am sure with enough push from all of us, magkakaroon din tayo ng Filipino Tennis world champs. Ang tanong, anong meron ang billiard or boxing or ibang sports at nagkaroon ito ng mga Pinoy world champs? Kailan kaya tayo magkaroon ulit ng Felix Barrientos na number 1 nating jr. player in the world noon? Paano tayo ulit magkakaroon ng Felix Barrientos?
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2006, 04:28:27 PM » |
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^ dapat muna maalis sa isip ng mga pinoy that tennis is an elitist sport. whenever i tell someone that im a tennis enthusiast, they would automatically say that im rich which is not. i believe that the more pinoys play tennis the better the chances to produce a champion.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2006, 07:00:13 AM » |
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Many many thanks sa inyong lahat! I believe we should brainstorm and pool our ideas together on how we can support and help uplift Philippine Tennis. Inputs from everyone will be very very helpful. Kung sa billiard ay may Bata Reyes/Alcano/Bustamante tayo, sa boxing ay may Pacquaio tayo, I am sure with enough push from all of us, magkakaroon din tayo ng Filipino Tennis world champs. Ang tanong, anong meron ang billiard or boxing or ibang sports at nagkaroon ito ng mga Pinoy world champs? Kailan kaya tayo magkaroon ulit ng Felix Barrientos na number 1 nating jr. player in the world noon? Paano tayo ulit magkakaroon ng Felix Barrientos?
I am exploring the possibility of incorporating a non-profit organization, a foundation if you will, in the US and in the Philippines within the next 5 years. Tentatively named Philippine Tennis Foundation, this organization will be sustained by the tax-deductible contributions of US-based kababayans and expatriates in other countries, and corporate sponsorships from companies such as tennis equipment manufacturers (not just local distributors), Philippine Airlines, hotels and other businesses. Initial seed money will come from my company. The PTF will create a volunteer squad of certified coaches who will scout the local talent and conduct coaching and high-performance training clinics similar to the Goodwill Tennis Tour. In fact, we may have these wonderful people continue their wonderful job on a more frequent basis under the auspices of the PTF. Under a partnership agreement with the Subic Bay Int’l Tennis Academy, the brightest junior prospects will undergo training there in preparation for USTA junior tournaments in the US and ITF junior tournaments elsewhere. The junior prospects will be supported by coaches from the PTF coaching staff during these tournaments. This is the basic thumbnail sketch of my plan to resurrect Philippine tennis. There are many other things that the PTF needs to do besides the ones outlined above, and of course, money is always the issue. The main thing is that I believe the existence of such a foundation can fuse the fragmented support for Philippine tennis, or in the absence of such, ignite national support for Philippine tennis. As the support increases, so does the credibility. Money comes in a lot easier if credibility is there. We can certainly garner the support of local politicians and get our finger into their pork barrel, especially if the junior prospects are a part of their constituency. The key thing here is to promote and support. Our main enemy is apathy and the pattern of ningas kugon. Everyone of us must lend our expertise to the task. Is this feasible? Can this work? If the answer is yes, how we can make this happen?
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2006, 11:55:05 AM » |
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Hi Racketwiz! This is a very interesting proposition! To my knowledge, there is a foundation called "The Futures Foundation" here in the Philippines and one of its consultants is my daughter's coach. Other than footing the cost of training, the foundation undertook the travel expenses of players as they join regional/international tennis competitions. I think one of the reasons why we had excellent Filipino players in the past i.e. Barrientos, Lao', etc. was that they were able to travel often and join international competitions. If cost of travel/room and board are covered, we would have hurdled one major obstacle. If we can involve Filipinos worldwide specially those near Tennis Centers, then perhaps our athletes may avail themselves of subsidized room and board as they join tennis competitions.
Like you said, the main challenge is funding. I am quite certain that there are available funding. We just need to organize in order to get access to such funds i.e. from politicans' pork barrel, corporate sponsorship from airlines,hotels, grants, etc.
Another issue is the process of evaluation and access to players (recruiting). We must come up with criteria on evaluation of players and how we can reach out to them up to grass roots level. I encountered some very very promising players without formal training who are "part time" ball boys. I am sure that there are a lot of them with raw but untapped talent. Somewhere in the rough, in one of the thousand islands in the Philippines are a handful of Manny Pacquiaos of tennis waiting to happen. I could be wrong but in the past, billiards or boxing was not really as popular until after Bata Reyes and Manny Pacquaio beat the odds.
To start, we need to identify people with the committment, time, resources/access to resources, and talent in order to effect our various plans of action.
Next, we would need to probably sit down with Subic Bay Tennis Academy people and find out if there is willingness to collaborate. Down the road, we probably should identify groups/clubs in various regions that can be our "satellite" training centers. Alternatively, we can do a pilot program in an area/region until we come up with a successful model which we can emulate and implement in the other regions.
Afterwards, we can probably incorporate PTF at the SEC to make it a legal entity. I shall check on the status of Futures Foundation and see if we can gather some sort of "best practices" in this area and learn from their experiences.
These are my initial thoughts and comments from everyone are welcome. I remember one Kevin Costner movie whose theme was: "if you build it, they will come"
I think the answer to your question is yes, it can be done...PTO, do you agree?
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2006, 03:09:53 PM » |
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yeah i agree bro LVL, its a great task but it can seemingly be done
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2006, 04:36:46 PM » |
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It may be more practical to build upon the framework and the successes of The Futures Foundation in this case. I think that the thrust must be unified rather than segmented. There are issues that are inevitable in the merger of two entities and ideals, but I think these are minor workable issues since the ultimate goal is the same.
In my next trip, I should pay Beeyong Sison a visit at Subic. We'll catch up on old times then I'll get his opinion on this tennis foundation project and test the extent of Subic's willingness to collaborate and participate. Then we can sit down with the folks at TFF and see how they want to proceed. Matter of fact, maybe someone at the TFF who knows Beeyong should pay him a visit and broach the idea.
The coaching staff would know what to look for. Tapping the services of current and former ranking players can also help. We can sponsor local tournaments for ball boys, things of this nature. We can look into the USTA's grassroots programs to see if something can be applied locally. You're right, we need committed people without big egos, lots of them, to make this work. That's a tough issue to crack, especially if it's voluntary (although all related expenses will be covered by the foundation, of course).
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2006, 10:21:54 PM » |
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I'm IN for that matter. In fact, I'm doing already in my own little way because I want to give back what I owed to Tennis. Maybe, I can help and support that Idea. Mabuhay ulit tennis sa atin!
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2006, 01:22:17 PM » |
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Thanks SLP! R'wiz, we can do this...!
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2006, 01:50:36 PM » |
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I'm IN for that matter. In fact, I'm doing already in my own little way because I want to give back what I owed to Tennis. Maybe, I can help and support that Idea. Mabuhay ulit tennis sa atin!
btw, I know that some Filipino Players/coaches are now in Japan. J. Victorino was just there and Dennis (from Olivarez). Do you know them?
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2006, 10:45:40 PM » |
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I know filipino tennis players coaching here in Japan and they are doing good. Imagine, we have a lot of talented coaches but they don't shared their expertise to our kababayan. We have more good coaches in HongKong, Bong Battad,Jun Alerre,Jun Valleramos,Rico Abadia,etc. They are helping HongKong Junior Tennis Program. WHY? They don't help Philippine tennis program? Manuel Gayon & Boy Diong, They are working Qatar Tennis program. In states,most of our former national champions have their own junior programs,Why they don't do it here? Alan Toledo has his own tennis junior school in japan and also Bobie Angelo his juniors are top here in Kansai area. Sad to say, our tennis in Philippines is deteriorating due to lack of Ideas on how to make tennis environment in Phil.to be strong and popular. If this guys I mention above work for Philippine tennis, we could have produce continuesly a world class players because filipinos has more talent compared to our asean counterparts. Philta should do something to make our tennis back to where it should be. Mabuhay!
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2006, 11:25:21 PM » |
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politics kasi... graft and corruption sa govt kaya eto nasa basurahan ang tennis program ng pinas....hay buhay...sayang ddaming magagaling n players.
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2006, 01:23:58 PM » |
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IMO, it is all a question of economics. Mas malaki ang kita to work overseas. If Tennis is as popular a sport as basketball here in the Philippines, and tennis players get paid as much as basketball players, I'm sure things will improve. The way things are going, mas nunahan pa yata ang tennis ng badminton.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2006, 11:15:47 PM » |
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That's why create a Tennis environronment that could benefit all Tennis concerned. The Philta should initiate because they are the governing body of Philippine tennis.
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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2006, 04:29:43 PM » |
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i think the bottomline of this discussion is that philta should initiate a major revamp, mejo out-dated na ata yung pamamalakad nila... i mean tennis has grown by leaps and bounds and di na siya considered as an elite sport ngayon... it's true na halos walang suporta ang philippine tennis but i think it's all about leadership more than anything else, i mean kung makita ng mga sponsor na ung mamalakad ng philta will be with the org through thick and thin... with the right leader, sponsors will come in that will probably revive philippine tennis...
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2006, 05:18:40 PM » |
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IMO, it is all a question of economics. Mas malaki ang kita to work overseas. If Tennis is as popular a sport as basketball here in the Philippines, and tennis players get paid as much as basketball players, I'm sure things will improve. The way things are going, mas nunahan pa yata ang tennis ng badminton.
naunahan na talaga ng badminton ang tennis in every sense. grabe ang corporate support sa badminton compared sa tennis. i hope mangyarin din ito sa tennis in the near future.
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2006, 12:18:17 PM » |
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I hope so too. Yung nakaraang PCA open, ang winner's prize is just PhP 89,000.00 for the men's singles champion and around PhP 30,000.00 for the ladies champion. Sa doubles, PhP 8,000.00! I think if there will be TV coverage of these events, mas dadami ang sponsors and they could offer higher prize money. That could attract players from around the world as well.
The question is, bakit walang TV coverage? Siguro wala pa tayong nabubuong critical mass of enthusiasts so the media networks do not find the tournaments worth airing at the moment.
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2006, 03:25:12 PM » |
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A Philippine Tennis Foundation existed in the 80's headed by Mike de Guzman. You might want to think of another name for your foundation if you push through with your plan.
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2006, 09:09:02 PM » |
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give more infos coco......
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2006, 09:14:12 PM » |
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dati may tv coverage ang pca open. i dont know kung bakit ngaun wala na.
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2006, 09:15:31 PM » |
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online ka pala spl888. kasali si nino ngayon sa phinma. care to post the results?
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2006, 09:28:23 PM » |
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Thanks! Mapuan, nanonood ka ba ng phinma?
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2006, 09:32:40 PM » |
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hindi nga eh kasi may trabaho na eh. pag sa saturday walang ot nonood ako.
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2006, 03:46:53 PM » |
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SLP, kung si racketwiz ay competitive player dati at kabatch ni Beeyong kilala natin yan. Kung hinde naman makikilala rin pagnainvolve si Beeyong sa project.
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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2006, 03:58:27 AM » |
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SLP, kung si racketwiz ay competitive player dati at kabatch ni Beeyong kilala natin yan. Kung hinde naman makikilala rin pagnainvolve si Beeyong sa project.
Guys, sorry I have to interject here to clarify a couple of things. I was never a tour player, although I try to be competitive when I play (as long as the knees allow).  Beeyong is older than I am. The last time I saw him was in the early 80's. For sure, he lost his memory of me when he lost his hair (hee, hee) but I know him because his cousins are family friends. Kahit na hindi mainvolve si Beeyong sa project, I'd still would like to meet you guys.
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« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2006, 08:43:26 PM » |
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dito ko na lang post yung result ng PHINMA
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First round 1-DANDAN, Kyle-Joshua (PHI) d. WC-BALDONADO, Johnwill (PHI) 61 61 Q-KOVALYOV, Dimitri (UKR) d. HUANG, Liang-Chi (TPE) 61 75 LL-PAKPOOMKAMOL PHANINTHON THA d. TSUNEMATSU, Hiroke (JPN) 62 63 8-KLEIN, Matheson (AUS) d. SHIN, Jeong-Ik (KOR) 61 61
3-CHOI, Jae-Won (KOR) d. Q-IMPRAPAI, Sorapon (THA) 64 60 EHARA, Hiroyasu (JPN) d. FABIK, Adam (CZE) 64 64 ALCANTARA, Francis Casey (PHI) d. WC-ARCILLA, Russell (PHI) 60 60 OLIVAREZ, Pablo Jr. (PHI) d. 5-HUNG, Jui-Chen (TPE) 64 62
Q-ILUSHINA, Artem (RUS) d. 7-THEODOR, Lenz (INA) 63 62 KANG, Ho-Min (KOR) d. WC-BALCE, Mark-Jaype (PHI) 75 61 BARTE, Ralph-Kevin (PHI) d. Q-WEE, Min (SIN) 76(2) 62 4-MATSUO, Yuki (JPN) d. YU, Jui-Ping (TPE) 64 62
6-KUNG, Kevin (HKG) d. HO, Joshua (PHI) 76 60 CHOI, Seungri (KOR) d. SAKAI, Yuta (JPN) 61 64 SUZUKI, Toshiya (JPN) d. PRAHMANEE, Grittaboon (THA) 64 60 2-STUDENY, Martin (CZE) d. WC-MONCERA, Leyan (PHI) 60 62
Second round 1-DANDAN, Kyle-Joshua (PHI) d. Q-KOVALYOV, Dimitri (UKR) 76(6) 61 8-KLEIN, Matheson (AUS) d. LL-PAKPOOMKAMOL PHANINTHON THA 64 61 3-CHOI, Jae-Won (KOR) d. EHARA, Hiroyasu (JPN) 63 64 ALCANTARA, Francis Casey (PHI) d. OLIVAREZ, Pablo Jr. (PHI) 57 63 63
Q-ILUSHINA, Artem (RUS) d. KANG, Ho-Min (KOR) 63 62 4-MATSUO, Yuki (JPN) d. BARTE, Ralph-Kevin (PHI) 62 76(2) 6-KUNG, Kevin (HKG) d. CHOI, Seungri (KOR) 60 62 2-STUDENY, Martin (CZE) d. SUZUKI, Toshiya (JPN) 75 62
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First round 1-TITOVA, Elizaveta (RUS) d. HAYASE, Kaede (JPN) 64 60 Q-LUMDUAN, Pornsurat (THA) d. WC-RIVERO, Martina (USA) 60 60 KAWASAKI, Yoshimi (JPN) d. ZOLETA, Conchita-Corazon (PHI) 61 61 5-MATHIS, Christina (AUT) d. MUN, Ye-Ji (KOR) 61 75
ORTEZA, Melissa-Rose (PHI) d. 4-NAIK, Adnya (IND) 75 64 WC-BEZICH-CAVINTA, Nivea (ESP) d. Q-TAN, Chlo Wee (MAS) 63 61 ZOLETA, Nikki-Camille (PHI) d. SCHUTZ, Marie-Louise (AUT) 60 60 7-ADACHI, Yuko (JPN) d. KIM, So-Yeon (KOR) 62 61
EGUCHI, Misa (JPN) d. 6-AGRA, Jessica-Marie (PHI) 64 76(4) EBARA, Shiho (JPN) d. SIEGFRIED, Maribelle (GER) 61 64 SHIGEFUJI, Machiko (JPN) d. WC FABREGAS, Bea (PHI) 63 64 Q-GUSKOVA, Nadejda (RUS) d. SHIN, Hong-Kyung (KOR) 61 63
8-KIM, Kun-Hee (KOR) d. Q-EDAGAWA, Miki (JPN) 76(7) 60 WC-PANG, Michelle (PHI) d. AMORANTO, Trudy-Gine (PHI) 63 63 HASHIZUME, Minami (JPN) d. HIRSCH, Stephanie (AUT) 62 36 62 CHINTALA, Mohana (IND) d. 2-STUDENA, Veronika (CZE) 63 61
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QF 1-DANDAN, Kyle-Joshua (PHI) d. 8-KLEIN, Matheson (AUS) 64 64 ALCANTARA, Francis Casey (PHI) d. 3-CHOI, Jae-Won (KOR) 75 67(1) 62
4-MATSUO, Yuki (JPN) d. Q-ILUSHINA, Artem (RUS) 64 64 2-STUDENY, Martin (CZE) d. 6-KUNG, Kevin (HKG) 64 46 63
Second round 1-TITOVA, Elizaveta (RUS) d. Q-LUMDUAN, Pornsurat (THA) 62 62 KAWASAKI, Yoshimi (JPN) d. 5-MATHIS, Christina (AUT) 63 36 64 WC-BEZICH-CAVINTA, Nivea (ESP) d. ORTEZA, Melissa-Rose (PHI) 62 61 ZOLETA, Nikki-Camille (PHI) d. 7-ADACHI, Yuko (JPN) 26 63 64
EGUCHI, Misa (JPN) d. EBARA, Shiho (JPN) 62 62 Q-GUSKOVA, Nadejda (RUS) d. SHIGEFUJI, Machiko (JPN) 60 16 62 8-KIM, Kun-Hee (KOR) d. WC-PANG, Michelle (PHI) 63 64 HASHIZUME, Minami (JPN) d. CHINTALA, Mohana (IND) 63 63
QF 1-TITOVA, Elizaveta (RUS) d. KAWASAKI, Yoshimi (JPN) 62 62 ZOLETA, Nikki-Camille (PHI) d. WC-BEZICH-CAVINTA, Nivea (ESP) 46 60 76(3)
Q-GUSKOVA, Nadejda (RUS) d. EGUCHI, Misa (JPN) 62 36 60 HASHIZUME, Minami (JPN) d. 8-KIM, Kun-Hee (KOR) 06 64 60
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« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2006, 11:11:23 PM » |
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2nd leg of PHINMA results please post it whoever watch the matches.
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