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« on: September 04, 2006, 05:27:05 AM » |
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To get a basic understanding of what racquets are all about, please visit this page on my website: http://hometown.aol.com/hypertennis/page4.htmIt's a 3-page primer and I encourage you to read through it. Don't forget to click on "Equipment Care".
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2006, 07:12:13 AM » |
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Ay sorry di na pala kita na-update,naexcite kasi masyado nung makuha ko kay Ging yung raketa eh! Andito pa rin yung LM4 ko pero balak ko i-trade in kasi kinukuha pa sa kin ng 100 euro, eh nakita ko sa tennis warehouse 79 dollars na lang, ok na rin di ba? dagdag na lang ako ulit para makakuha ng bagong raketa. Ask ko opinion mo bro. ok lang ba sa akin yung aeropro drive? o pang advance player na yon? i'm using pure drive roddick now, pang advance player din ata 'to eh! binili ko lang kasi may discount dun sa pro shop. The LM4 and the Pure Drive Rod are polar opposites. In order to get a better understanding since I haven’t actually observed your game, let me ask you these: 1) Which of the two (LM4 vs. PD Rod) do you feel you play better with? 2) What significant difference did you feel or notice between these two rackets? 3) What do and don’t you like about each? 4) What made you think about the AeroPro Drive and what do you think you’ll get from it? Sorry kung medyo maraming tanong. Pero these are the types of probing questions that I usually ask a player (from weekend warriors to tournament players) in order to get a handle on what they’re looking for. In any event, I have listed the basic specs below which is taken from the USRSA’s controlled lab test results: PD Rod – 100 sq.in. head, 332g strung, 32.75cm balance point, 328 swingweight, 73 stiffness Aero – 100 sq.in. head, 324g strung, 33.75cm balance point, 337 swingweight, 69 stiffness In comparison, the PD Rod is heavier but is approx 3 pts. more head light resulting in a lower swingweight (swingweight is how heavy the racket feels when it is swung and should not be confused with the racket’s weight). With Roddick’s type of service motion (serve being his biggest weapon), he obviously needs a stick that is easier to swing around. The higher stiffness rating (73 RDC) also gives the racket a higher power potential. Add these to Roddick’s natural strength and you have an explosive 155mph serve. On the other hand, the Aero is lighter but is head-heavier with a higher swingweight. This suits Nadal’s heavy topspin strokes. While still considered very stiff, the Aero is relatively a bit more flexible than the PD Rod. At 69 RDC, the Aero translates the power potential that Nadal brings into a heavier spin and it also gives him a bit more control than ARod’s 73 RDC to help keep the ball in play. Yes, the Aero, because of its higher swingweight, will require more energy to whip around, but Nadal has the arm muscles to do it. I have playtested both, and I like the ball better on ARod’s stick. But that’s just me.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 05:30:52 AM » |
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Thanks for the infos, Racketwiz!! hulog ka talaga ng langit sa aming mga tenista! hehehe! kitakits tayo sa pinas!
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2006, 05:37:17 AM » |
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yeah, kapag balik nyo EB uli.. haha ayus ang EB kanina maraming dumating.. sarap pumalo haha..
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 01:18:11 PM » |
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Sir racketwiz; question lang po.
aside from the price, ano ang kaibahan ng Head Prestige and Head Radical (midplus)?
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 03:53:10 PM » |
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Ay sorry di na pala kita na-update,naexcite kasi masyado nung makuha ko kay Ging yung raketa eh! Andito pa rin yung LM4 ko pero balak ko i-trade in kasi kinukuha pa sa kin ng 100 euro, eh nakita ko sa tennis warehouse 79 dollars na lang, ok na rin di ba? dagdag na lang ako ulit para makakuha ng bagong raketa. Ask ko opinion mo bro. ok lang ba sa akin yung aeropro drive? o pang advance player na yon? i'm using pure drive roddick now, pang advance player din ata 'to eh! binili ko lang kasi may discount dun sa pro shop. The LM4 and the Pure Drive Rod are polar opposites. In order to get a better understanding since I haven’t actually observed your game, let me ask you these: 1) Which of the two (LM4 vs. PD Rod) do you feel you play better with? 2) What significant difference did you feel or notice between these two rackets? 3) What do and don’t you like about each? 4) What made you think about the AeroPro Drive and what do you think you’ll get from it? Sorry kung medyo maraming tanong. Pero these are the types of probing questions that I usually ask a player (from weekend warriors to tournament players) in order to get a handle on what they’re looking for. In any event, I have listed the basic specs below which is taken from the USRSA’s controlled lab test results: PD Rod – 100 sq.in. head, 332g strung, 32.75cm balance point, 328 swingweight, 73 stiffness Aero – 100 sq.in. head, 324g strung, 33.75cm balance point, 337 swingweight, 69 stiffness In comparison, the PD Rod is heavier but is approx 3 pts. more head light resulting in a lower swingweight (swingweight is how heavy the racket feels when it is swung and should not be confused with the racket’s weight). With Roddick’s type of service motion (serve being his biggest weapon), he obviously needs a stick that is easier to swing around. The higher stiffness rating (73 RDC) also gives the racket a higher power potential. Add these to Roddick’s natural strength and you have an explosive 155mph serve. On the other hand, the Aero is lighter but is head-heavier with a higher swingweight. This suits Nadal’s heavy topspin strokes. While still considered very stiff, the Aero is relatively a bit more flexible than the PD Rod. At 69 RDC, the Aero translates the power potential that Nadal brings into a heavier spin and it also gives him a bit more control than ARod’s 73 RDC to help keep the ball in play. Yes, the Aero, because of its higher swingweight, will require more energy to whip around, but Nadal has the arm muscles to do it. I have playtested both, and I like the ball better on ARod’s stick. But that’s just me. racketwiz, How about the Pure Drive or Pure Drive +(not Pure Drive Roddick)? This racket is the racket of Carlos Moya, Igor Andreev and before by Lubijic. Any experience/feedback on this?
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 06:54:21 AM » |
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As you may already know, the PD Roddick is a heavier version of the regular PD's. The PD Rod feels more stable than the regular PD and it's got a bit more power, no doubt a function of the extra weight. If you got the muscle, you'll probably prefer the PD Rod over the regular PD. This won't be my stick of choice, though. The PD models are a bit too stiff for my taste (and my aging arm  ).
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2007, 08:02:20 PM » |
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what's the difference between the Head Radical/Prestige/Instict line?
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 08:16:06 AM » |
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what's the difference between the Head Radical/Prestige/Instict line?
thanks racketwiz!
In a nutshell, different sticks for different strokes. The Prestige is Head’s classic player’s stick, much like Wilson’s x6.1 and Prince’s Graphite. Everything about this stick spells control, so you need to provide the horsepower, precision and skill to maximize its performance potential. The Radical exists because of Agassi’s demand that a Prince Graphite OS clone be made for him by Head before contracts were inked. Howard Head was the “head” behind Head Sports and Prince, but that’s another story. Basically more flexible with a larger head but less head-light than the Prestige, it’s supposed to blend power and control with a larger margin of error that someone like Agassi, an aggressive baseliner who takes the ball on the rise, might prefer. Midplus versions were added for those who prefer more control than power. The “Pro” version is the heavyweight model for those seeking a less demanding alternative to the Prestige. The Instinct is basically the lightweight of the group and I wouldn’t put it in the same category as the Prestige and the Rad. I would venture to say that lesser players might find this stick ideal than the other two Heads, but some touring pros use it albeit with some customizations. The “Team” version is a lighter version. Generally speaking, “Team” suffixes indicate a lighter model of an existing line and “Pro” suffixes denote heavier “player-oriented” models.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 01:36:04 PM » |
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OT - (belated) happy birthday racketwiz.
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 11:07:12 PM » |
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to racketwiz & renald:
i have a prince harrier midplus, 16x20 string pattern, witn 48 kg. - 58 kg. recommended string tension range. i would like to have it strung with polyester but i find the maximum 58 kg. tension too "soft". would it be possible to have it strung to 60 kgs. without breaking or over- 'torqueing' the racket? need your expert advice on this, please help...
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2008, 12:59:35 AM » |
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Hi rockitman, We have to verify if the stringer did not have slipping clamps. Is he your regular stringer for your other rackets? Is his work acceptable on your other rackets? Because the recommended tension range works for 90% of the playing public. If you belong to the 10%, you might need to go over the recommended range. Another reason could be is that your stringer is afraid because of your racket condition, so he adjusted the tension or he reduced by 10% as recommended in the string.
Now as to your question of over tensioning, The higher the tension, you put more stress on the racket. Therefore, this might cause your racket to break. But for me, going over is worthwhile because an unusable racket is useless, Id rather break it while using it than have it but not using it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2008, 08:53:38 AM » |
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i have tried synthetics and polys on it at 58 kgs. maximum tension spec. but after a week, the tension drops. so would it be safe if i can have it strung at 60? ok lang ba yung ganun na mag-exceed ka ng 2 kgs. over the recommended tension range?
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2008, 10:54:59 AM » |
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Hello Rock,
Musta na? About yer tension , are you talkin' about Kgs (Kilograms) or Pounds? Baka may na miss lang ako, well 2 kilograms up, masyadong malaki yon, but Lbs , I think no problem.
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2008, 03:22:10 PM » |
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altodds, am sorry, my bad!!! i mean 2 LBS. pala. (mahirap na tumatanda, lumalabo na mata... pero di bale... basta lagi lang stiff - yung stringbed, hehehe  ) yup, recommended range is 48 - 58 lbs, would it be safe if i add 2 more pounds (@ 60 lbs.) without compromising the racket's structural integrity? malambot sa 58 eh, gusto ko 60 para mas matigas !!! ( so i can hit flat out at marating ang dulo - ng baseline  ) musta na altodds, dugay na ka diha kalimot na ka "French" nimo? sayang yun open tourney ng cebuana lhuillier, entry ka sana doon with any of our friends as your partner, and give the mavericks a run for their money. (pag ' young guns' kasi baka akala nila... eh tama naman akala nila ahihihi !!!)
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 01:23:59 AM » |
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My opinion is to increase the tension even beyond the recommended tension range. My objective is to optimize performance. If you want, just sell it and get a smaller head. For me, I dont concern myself about the life of the racket as long as i enjoy using it. You are the master, you should do as you please. Get another if it breaks. Enjoy playing. Sampras used to use 75 lbs, way beyond recommended tension.
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 01:49:04 AM » |
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altodds, am sorry, my bad!!! i mean 2 LBS. pala. (mahirap na tumatanda, lumalabo na mata... pero di bale... basta lagi lang stiff - yung stringbed, hehehe  ) yup, recommended range is 48 - 58 lbs, would it be safe if i add 2 more pounds (@ 60 lbs.) without compromising the racket's structural integrity? malambot sa 58 eh, gusto ko 60 para mas matigas !!! ( so i can hit flat out at marating ang dulo - ng baseline  ) musta na altodds, dugay na ka diha kalimot na ka "French" nimo? sayang yun open tourney ng cebuana lhuillier, entry ka sana doon with any of our friends as your partner, and give the mavericks a run for their money. (pag ' young guns' kasi baka akala nila... eh tama naman akala nila ahihihi !!!) Yes Rock, forgot my FRENCH already, but at least nakakintindi pa rin ng kaunti, pero nahihirapan ako pagnagbasa, or pagnagsalita nahahaluan ng salitang Ponjaks kasi eh. Anyway, about yer racket's tension , I agree with Renalds opinion. Most of my rackets are strung beyond the manufacturer's recommendation. Before, nag 72 lbs ako, when I'm usin' Pro Kennex (during the 90's) no problem with the racket and the string, always libre kasi eh. 3 Years with Mizuno, 8 lbs higher than the recommended , libre rin But, when I was usin' Yonex from 1995 to 2005, medyo kuripot sila sa string kaya nagbaba ako ng tension till below the recommended naman, but I'm receiving some free strings with the Gosen company. This time Wilson for my 3rd year contract, using the K pro open, with 52 lbs , still below the recommended, pero no problem with me, coz' nagamayan ko na ang medyo malambot. To each his own eh. Kaya try it, kung ano ang feeling mo , trust your feeling , dahil ikaw ang gagamit, siguraduhin mo na you hit it flat out at marating ang dulo ng baseline  Hope to see you all soon, regards to your wife and kid!!!
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 03:08:09 PM » |
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to racketwiz & renald:
i have a prince harrier midplus, 16x20 string pattern, witn 48 kg. - 58 kg. recommended string tension range. i would like to have it strung with polyester but i find the maximum 58 kg. tension too "soft". would it be possible to have it strung to 60 kgs. without breaking or over- 'torqueing' the racket? need your expert advice on this, please help...
If you want a stiffer stringbed without having to go over the tension range, try having the string pre-stretched. or Tension ranges are established based on the expectation that the rackets will be strung on electronic constant pull machines. These constant pull machines string up to 10% tighter than manual machines at the same tension. Thus, if your stringer is using a manual lock-out machine, you can go up to 10% over the max range. So, if the max is 58 lb, you can go up to 64 lb on a manual machine.
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2008, 03:16:25 PM » |
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altodds, racketwiz & renald, thanks for the inputs, pwede pa pala exceed ng konti. most (if not all) of the stringing machines here are manual lock-out, haven't seen them digital/electronic thingamajigs yet, toby's or chris lang naman ako nagpapa-string eh. again thanks guys, really do appreciate it! altodds, regards too to the wife and leo...
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2008, 04:10:52 AM » |
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rock, if you really want a superstiff stringbed, you should try Gamma Edge strings. These strings are no longer made by Gamma, but you can still find them. I guarantee you that these strings will last longer than your racket, hehehe. They're made of twisted metallic wires. 
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2008, 06:54:28 AM » |
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hello guys,
whenever i'm using my new racket k-surge i'm experiencing a pain on my elbow but if i'm using my other racket head flexpoint hindi naman sumasakit. the tension of k-surge is 62 lbs and i'm using poly sa main and synthetic sa cross maybe the weight of the racket 280 grams na medyo lighter than flexpoint o baka kaya masyadong mataan ang tension nang k-surge
thanks and best regards
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2008, 11:37:57 AM » |
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hello guys,
whenever i'm using my new racket k-surge i'm experiencing a pain on my elbow but if i'm using my other racket head flexpoint hindi naman sumasakit. the tension of k-surge is 62 lbs and i'm using poly sa main and synthetic sa cross maybe the weight of the racket 280 grams na medyo lighter than flexpoint o baka kaya masyadong mataan ang tension nang k-surge
thanks and best regards
Model name of the Head Flexpoint, strings used and tension pls? Is the pain on the elbow on the medial side (inside part) or on the lateral side (outside part)?
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2008, 03:11:37 PM » |
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rock, if you really want a superstiff stringbed, you should try Gamma Edge strings. These strings are no longer made by Gamma, but you can still find them. I guarantee you that these strings will last longer than your racket, hehehe. They're made of twisted metallic wires.  hehehe, i think i'd rather use ernie ball 'slinky' or d'addario strings, the ones found in a gibson, les paul or ibanez guitars. so that when i serve, merong "TWANG"  seriously, if they were twisted metallic wires, is it legal or ITF sanctioned?
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2008, 03:28:41 PM » |
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The last tme I remember na mayroon parang wire ang string, is the WYNTEX, I think its from gosen, kaya lang pag nasira ang some portion of the wires which surrounded the string , minsan may nakaka sugat or nakasalubsob pag hinawakakan mo ang string, wala na yata ngayon yon. Hey Rock, you better use the GIBSON pure Masterbuilt Premium, mura na ang ganda pa ng tunog, pero pang acoustic 
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2008, 03:34:25 PM » |
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hehehe, i think i'd rather use ernie ball 'slinky' or d'addario strings, the ones found in a gibson, les paul or ibanez guitars. so that when i serve, merong "TWANG"  seriously, if they were twisted metallic wires, is it legal or ITF sanctioned? ya, it's legal. 
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2008, 03:48:42 PM » |
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The last tme I remember na mayroon parang wire ang string, is the WYNTEX, I think its from gosen, kaya lang pag nasira ang some portion of the wires which surrounded the string , minsan may nakaka sugat or nakasalubsob pag hinawakakan mo ang string, wala na yata ngayon yon. Hey Rock, you better use the GIBSON pure Masterbuilt Premium, mura na ang ganda pa ng tunog, pero pang acoustic  sige altodds, will recommend it to my 2nd child (18 yo son). siya yung mahilig, meron siyang acoustic and an ibanez axe. specially now that its summer vacation, i do hear a lot of riffs and solos (ala gilbert, satriani, malmsteen and vai) thats making my ears bleed! can't complain though, kasi nga once you complain that the music is too loud, it means you're getting old!  eh noong panahon natin eh jimi hendrix, jimmy page, robert plant, frank zappa, atbp... music sa atin - ingay naman daw sabi ng tatay... 
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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2008, 04:13:25 PM » |
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I know out of topic ito, Rock, but when it comes to music,well, yung panahon natin ha. Let your son hear the riffs of my favs guitarist likes of John McLaughlin, Steve Howe, Al Di Meola, Paco De Lucia, well as you've mentioned , the Genius Frank Zappa, Pat Metheny and non stop ang list ko. Let him also hear the music of Pink Floyd, Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, King Crimson, wala pa rin tatalo sa panahon natin 
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2008, 05:22:58 PM » |
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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2008, 06:58:54 PM » |
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hello guys,
whenever i'm using my new racket k-surge i'm experiencing a pain on my elbow but if i'm using my other racket head flexpoint hindi naman sumasakit. the tension of k-surge is 62 lbs and i'm using poly sa main and synthetic sa cross maybe the weight of the racket 280 grams na medyo lighter than flexpoint o baka kaya masyadong mataan ang tension nang k-surge
thanks and best regards
Model name of the Head Flexpoint, strings used and tension pls? Is the pain on the elbow on the medial side (inside part) or on the lateral side (outside part)? hi racketwiz, it's head flexpoint liquidmetal, size mid plus, sorry the weight is only 275 grams unstrung and i'm only using nylon string 17ga yung sumakit naman sa aking elbow ay banda sa inside part pero nung pinahiran kunang deep heat or thermo lotion ay nawala naman. thanks again
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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2008, 10:52:18 PM » |
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Altodds & rock- Hindi ninyo natandaan si freddie mercury---that's me!
of course, how can we forget the great SLP, wala silang panama, kahit si freddie mercury - walang binatbat!!! altodds, ano, laban ka???
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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2008, 01:16:20 AM » |
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Tagilid ang bangka natin against Freddie Mercury, he's considered as one of the best rock vocalist all time, and that's forever, kaya He's not only D'GREAT but D' GREATEST ever! Kaya si SLP is the GREATEST ever and forever and ever amen!!!
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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2008, 11:17:45 AM » |
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hi racketwiz,
it's head flexpoint liquidmetal, size mid plus, sorry the weight is only 275 grams unstrung and i'm only using nylon string 17ga
yung sumakit naman sa aking elbow ay banda sa inside part pero nung pinahiran kunang deep heat or thermo lotion ay nawala naman.
thanks again
Teka, medyo lumabo yata.  The LiquidMetal models came first before the FlexPoint models. At 275g unstrung mid-plus, I'm thinking Fxp 6 mid-plus, Fxp Heat, Fxp Fire, Fxp Instinct Team or Fxp Radical Team. Usually nakatatak ang model name ng racket on the side of the shaft above the handle. Well, whatever it is, the KSurge is stiffer than any of the above-mentioned FlexPoint sticks. Strung with stiff poly (hybrid notwithstanding) at 62 lb, the resulting stringbed will be stiffer than the Fxp's nylon stringbed. So, stiffer racket + stiffer poly string = stiffer stringbed = more shock = more stress on your arm = pain on the arm. The pain on the inside part of your arm is what I expected in this case kasi one would normally hit more forehands and serves than backhands (a mild case of golfer's elbow). The KSurge is a new racket for you so I'm inclined to believe that the pain is a sign that your arm is experiencing more shock than it's accustomed to. Perhaps in due time, makaka-adjust yung arm muscles mo. But you have to watch it closely, though. Pag chronic ang pain, this is not a good sign. Also, you might be better off easing up on the tension 2 or 3 lb and/or avoiding stiff polys altogether just to help your arm transition to the new racket in the meantime.
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« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2008, 05:16:21 PM » |
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Hi guys... question naman... pano nagwo work ung point system s rackets?
Ung K-Factor Surge na racquet... 4 points HL. Ano ibig sabihin non?
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« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2008, 09:13:20 PM » |
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Points mean how many cm from mid point is the balance point. If the balance point is in the mid point 00, if balance point is nearer the handle its headlight. And if blance point is near the head HH. The farther from the mid point the higher the points
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« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2008, 09:21:30 PM » |
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I believe 1 point is 1/8th of an inch. In this case, his racket, if it is 28 inches will have a static balance point at 13 and 1/2 inches from the butt since it is HL.
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« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2008, 09:38:26 PM » |
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KSurge is 27". Midpoint is 13.5". If 4 pts HL, thats 1/2" nearer the handle. Balance pt therefore is 13" from the handle.
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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2008, 01:10:48 PM » |
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To summarize the above posts and to place this balance issue in its proper technical perspective:
Balance point is the linear measurement between the racket’s butt and the point at which the racket is balanced. In the case of an unstrung KSurge, the balance point is 13 in, or 33.02 cm.
Midpoint is simply half the length of the racket. For the KSurge, it’s 27/2 = 13.5 in.
Balance is the difference between the racket’s balance point (BP) and midpoint (MP), in inches, and is expressed in “points”, where 1/8 in = 1 point. If the BP is greater than MP, the racket is head heavy. If the BP is less than MP, the racket is head light. If both are equal, the racket is evenly balanced. In the case of an unstrung KSurge, the difference between BP and MP is 0.5 in, which equals 4 points. Since BP is less than MP, the racket is said to be 4 points head light, unstrung.
Most, if not all current rackets are marked with its unstrung specs. To get a close approximation of what the strung specs would be, add the following values to the unstrung specs:
Weight: +15 g Balance point: +0.375 in Balance: +3 pts head heavy Swingweight: +30 RDC
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« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2008, 10:42:55 PM » |
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hi racketwiz,
it's head flexpoint liquidmetal, size mid plus, sorry the weight is only 275 grams unstrung and i'm only using nylon string 17ga
yung sumakit naman sa aking elbow ay banda sa inside part pero nung pinahiran kunang deep heat or thermo lotion ay nawala naman.
thanks again
Teka, medyo lumabo yata.  The LiquidMetal models came first before the FlexPoint models. At 275g unstrung mid-plus, I'm thinking Fxp 6 mid-plus, Fxp Heat, Fxp Fire, Fxp Instinct Team or Fxp Radical Team. Usually nakatatak ang model name ng racket on the side of the shaft above the handle. Well, whatever it is, the KSurge is stiffer than any of the above-mentioned FlexPoint sticks. Strung with stiff poly (hybrid notwithstanding) at 62 lb, the resulting stringbed will be stiffer than the Fxp's nylon stringbed. So, stiffer racket + stiffer poly string = stiffer stringbed = more shock = more stress on your arm = pain on the arm. The pain on the inside part of your arm is what I expected in this case kasi one would normally hit more forehands and serves than backhands (a mild case of golfer's elbow). The KSurge is a new racket for you so I'm inclined to believe that the pain is a sign that your arm is experiencing more shock than it's accustomed to. Perhaps in due time, makaka-adjust yung arm muscles mo. But you have to watch it closely, though. Pag chronic ang pain, this is not a good sign. Also, you might be better off easing up on the tension 2 or 3 lb and/or avoiding stiff polys altogether just to help your arm transition to the new racket in the meantime. hi racketwiz, it's fxp 6 mid-plus and thanks for the advise. cheers
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« Reply #38 on: May 06, 2008, 04:27:42 PM » |
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has anyone tried the new prestige microgel?? im planing on buying one but im not sure if i should get the mid plus or the mid size.. im currently using the the midplus of the old prestige, but i hit the ball abit high on the sweetspot. and does it really feel any better?
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« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2008, 02:04:08 AM » |
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has anyone tried the new prestige microgel?? im planing on buying one but im not sure if i should get the mid plus or the mid size.. im currently using the the midplus of the old prestige, but i hit the ball abit high on the sweetspot. and does it really feel any better?
It would be best if you can actually hit with both the MG Prestige mid and midplus. It's tough to base your racket choices on other player's comments because it's a very subjective issue. I demoed both MGs and I prefer the midplus. Other players like the mid better. I mean, what works for other players may not work for you. If you can't playtest these MGs and you have a choice between the mid and midplus, then I suggest that you stick with the more familiar midplus. Both models may share the same name but the overall performance is quite different.
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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2008, 02:38:06 PM » |
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racketwiz, how abt MG radical and MG instinct, which of these two do u thing soothes u?
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« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2008, 02:27:37 PM » |
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It would be best if you can actually hit with both the MG Prestige mid and midplus. It's tough to base your racket choices on other player's comments because it's a very subjective issue. I demoed both MGs and I prefer the midplus. Other players like the mid better. I mean, what works for other players may not work for you.
If you can't playtest these MGs and you have a choice between the mid and midplus, then I suggest that you stick with the more familiar midplus. Both models may share the same name but the overall performance is quite different. [/quote]
so what is the difference between the two MG's? i cant playtest these rackets because i dont know anyone who owns any of them. my problem with the mid is im already having problems hitting fast dipping volleys with my midplus, how much more with the mid right? but because i hit the ball abit high on the midplus, so if i switch on the mid i may hit the sweetspot right on..i think.hehehehe
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« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2008, 02:36:56 PM » |
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you can actually demo these rackets by requesting one. ask tobys or chris sports near your area.
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« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2008, 02:45:13 PM » |
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you can actually demo these rackets by requesting one. ask tobys or chris sports near your area.
i didnt know this..i guess when the MG prestige will arive in the PI i can demo it.. but i play to buy online.. tnx sir.. 
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« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2008, 07:23:33 AM » |
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racketwiz, how abt MG radical and MG instinct, which of these two do u thing soothes u?
The MG Rad has 4 models (MP, OS, Pro & Team) and the only one I demoed from this line is the Pro. The Rads (including the previous generations) and the Instinct (LM, Fxp and MG) are not my kind of sticks, but if I had to pick between the MG Rad Pro and the MG Instinct, I’d go with the Rad Pro.
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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2008, 07:27:16 AM » |
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so what is the difference between the two MG's? i cant playtest these rackets because i dont know anyone who owns any of them. my problem with the mid is im already having problems hitting fast dipping volleys with my midplus, how much more with the mid right? but because i hit the ball abit high on the midplus, so if i switch on the mid i may hit the sweetspot right on..i think.hehehehe
tnx
You’re not the only one having problems with fast-dipping volleys, regardless of racket. Hehehe For what it’s worth, here’s my take on the MG Prestige line Mid Too heavy for me. By the time I add overgrip and the dampener, I’m looking at 350+ g. Can’t do any weight/balance customization because that adds to the weight even more. Tight string pattern on a small head transmits a nice feel, but the whole stroke is sluggish. Them old arms can’t whip the racket around fast enough on a consistent basis. This is an old-school pure control stick. Forget about off-center hits. The small head is unforgiving. Midplus Weight is manageable, nice feel on the tight string pattern, a bit more forgiving on off-center hits. I could generate more pace on the ball on demand, control is good. Midplus Pro The only difference vs. the regular midplus is the Pro’s open string pattern. The stringbed is noticeably livelier, but I prefer the control and feel of the regular midplus. My gripe for all 3 models is the shape of the grip (too rectangular for me) and the length of the grip (too short for my 2-hander). Measurements indicate that the Mid’s center of percussion (sweetspot) is about an inch+ higher on the stringbed than the Midplus, although I didn’t think this made a difference in actual play. If you’re hitting the ball around an inch or two above the middle of the stringbed, I’d say that’s pretty usual. But if you’re hitting balls closer to the tip of the racket than closer to the middle of the stringbed, then there may be other issues involved. Maybe it’s the racket, maybe it’s a timing issue and/or a stroke issue, could be a number of things. Weight and/or balance customization can resolve some equipment issues, or maybe a switch to a longer racket can bring the impact zone down toward the middle. It’s a sight unseen situation, so it's tough call.
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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2008, 09:29:27 AM » |
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hello.  has anyone playtested the Wilson K Factor Zero? Reviews? Thanks! 
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