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[Bobby Armillo]

Hi Everyone. If you were to support for your fellow filipino, especially for our talented juniors. What would you strongly suggest and why?

[smiley]

Pro-tennis; they'll have more chance to improve their game, chance to travel, meet other pro, earn $$$$, or someday, they'll be able to join slam events and be an inspiration to our fellow pinoys.

but on the side, they can still earn their college degree on home-schooling programs

[Bobby Armillo]

Yes it would be great if our young guns will make it to the pros. I'd also encourage them to do very well in their studies. Same like the pros, if they become successful in their chosen fields, they will be able to gain well deserved rewards.

[DASMA BOY]

Sa local, c Jeson patrombon is the only one who has pro potential. Cya ang philippine hope!

[smiley]

jurence m. (14.5yrs old) has a bright future too. betto o. can also excel, but i've heard he preferred to study as he begged down his slot for the junior-davis team.

nowadays, i seldom see athletes who excel in both fields (sports & schooling). somewhere or the other, one will be given more priority and sacrifice the other. but if the student have good time managament, he won't mind maximizing his time to sports everyday. "if there's a will, it will happen"

[samuraijack]

Hi Everyone. If you were to support for your fellow filipino, especially for our talented juniors.

ang talent meron apat na meaning ito. talent alone ibig sabihin is not
literally means talented ka nga na magaling.

ito ang apat na sub category talents:

super talent: kagaya ni nadal,federer,sampras,ito halos puro
nanalo,bihira matalo palaging napupunta sa finals.

mediocre talent: kagaya nina murray,djokovic,davydenko madalas
manalo mula 1st rd to semi's pero halos di cla makapunta or
manalo sa mga finals.

medium talent:ito ung mga either panalo or talo kaagad sa 1st to
2nd round.

loosers talent: ito ung mga players na trying hard pero
"magaling clang matalo" kesa sa manalo hindi cla
makaangat kahit anong gawin.

[schmello]

John Isner went to college first (University of Georgia)... something to think about

[DASMA BOY]

c jeson lang talaga ang pro potential ng pinas,nasa kanya lahat, best coaching financial backer ni cong, talent at puso. yung iba may palo pero hanggang doon na lang, mas maigi kung mag US scholarship na lang sila at maganda rin ang kinabukasan nila.

[smiley]

c jeson lang talaga ang pro potential ng pinas,nasa kanya lahat, best coaching financial backer ni cong, talent at puso. yung iba may palo pero hanggang doon na lang, mas maigi kung mag US scholarship na lang sila at maganda rin ang kinabukasan nila.

madaming coach na magagaling, pero mahirap makahanap ng financial backer. unless mayaman katulad ng mga patrimonio's and tanpioco- nakakalaro sila sa labas to gain exposure

[havtennis]

If one has financial backup then go pro.  But I would suggest college first before going to pro.  Being pro is a gamble and you might end up with nothing.  Having a degree will always help you in the future esp. one cannot tell what your future in the pros will be.

[Bobby Armillo]

For the likes of our top juniors now, and realistically speaking, what would you recommoend?

[skywalker_1701]

I would still choose College Tennis for our top juniors.  For me, education is still the best tool for you to have a brighter future.

[luxilionwave]

I feel the pressure and high expectation for Jesson. This kid stopped school 3 years ago. Did not even attend online schooling so he does not even have a choice but to go with the flow. Yes, he is in the top ten but the majority of the top 16-17 year old kids in Europe and America are already playing pros fulltime and is off the ITF junior radar.Sam Querrey,Isner,Ginepri,Nadal,Sampras,Courier etc... were not in the ITF elite.  Jack Sock of US rarely play ITFs juniors and won US Open juniors. It takes 4 to 7 years to play futures and challengers to know where you really stand and crack top 200 to make a decent money. Will financial help flow for that long or will it dry?
 This is a gamble for Jesson, I wish him the best. Alcantara,Kyle Dandan,Pablo Olivarez,Nico Riego de Dios,Agra,Melissa Orteza,Raymond Sarmiento made excellent choices. They all went to a top Tennis colleges and excellent academic institution. As I have said, Jesson did not really have those choices. IMO.

[burosky]

I am with Skywalker on this one.  For every player who went Pro and became successful there are thousands if not millions who ended up with nothing to show for.  At the very least, worse come to worse, those who choose college tennis will have an education to fall back on.  Foregoing college and hitting the pros is like going "all-in" before the flop.  For the lucky few they may hit it big but more often than not they are sent home with nothing.

Here is a study done by the USTA with regards to going to college or turning pro.  The intent is for the reader to make an informed decision.

http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/USTA%20College%20Varsity%20Analysis%20of%20College%20vs%20Pro%20FAQ.pdf

[edreams11]

pro tennis and then go online college

[smiley]

I am with Skywalker on this one.  For every player who went Pro and became successful there are thousands if not millions who ended up with nothing to show for.  At the very least, worse come to worse, those who choose college tennis will have an education to fall back on.  Foregoing college and hitting the pros is like going "all-in" before the flop.  For the lucky few they may hit it big but more often than not they are sent home with nothing.

Here is a study done by the USTA with regards to going to college or turning pro.  The intent is for the reader to make an informed decision.

http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/USTA%20College%20Varsity%20Analysis%20of%20College%20vs%20Pro%20FAQ.pdf

wow! i like this article. very informative!

and very expensive to go pro tour. but if you have financial backer- go pro tour!
but if you have no money but all talent- go college tennis!

just be smart on how to handle any amount/money/allowances you'll receive. it's a stepping stone on how you want to achieve in life, also in tennis

[edreams11]

in my own opinion, we need to modify first our college tennis system. sa ibang bansa kc magaganda mga college tennis programs nila but in our case, tingin ko mas mababa ang learning curve natin dhil sa deficiency ng programs natin. so yung mga college-bound tennistas na dream to become a pro, lumalabas pa ng bansa for better programs. kung mas maaga silang maexpose sa mga intl programs nato, mas maganda chances nila. pero syempre dapat may datung ka to make this possible.

as for their college educ naman, they can apply for special education like tutoring or online courses. personally, yung pinagaralan ko nung college, i think 5% lang nito ang nagagamit ko on my day-to-day activities. 95% i learned from my job and after-college-experiences ;p hindi ko sinasabing sayang lang ang 4 or 5 years mo sa college pero kung decidido kang maging pro and you have money, train early but make sure you get a special college education, whether it be online or one-on-one tutoring.

this is my opinion

[SLP888]

Tennis Pro or College ? I've experienced both. 99% make your tennis as an entrance to college. 1% gamble your future to become Pro Tennis player. Most people think about it. Did all Top players went to college? very few. Most of them didn't go to college. But, they are successful because from the start they're determined and work hard to be good. As a filipino/asian, we have to double our efforts to compete against big guys on the tour, it's really tough. If you belong to 1% like, Manny Pacquiao then your lucky. Pacquiao no college education but he is one of our law makers. There's a saying goes' "Many are being called but few are to be chosen."

Good Luck guys whatever your decision is, just believe in yourself!

[edreams11]

experience ko sa mga varsity players nung college days ko, papasok ng late sa class tapos aalis din ng maaga. tapos ang linis ng catleya notebook walang kasulat sulat hehe. yang ang college varsity.. degree holder! 

disclaimer: this is not to generalize or discriminate them. maybe this was an isolated case back then

[SLP888]

experience ko sa mga varsity players nung college days ko, papasok ng late sa class tapos aalis din ng maaga. tapos ang linis ng catleya notebook walang kasulat sulat hehe. yang ang college varsity.. degree holder! 

disclaimer: this is not to generalize or discriminate them. maybe this was an isolated case back then

edreams,

sakit natamaan ako hehehehe! pero pumapasok naman ako eh kahit na pagod sa training at pinasa ko ang exams kahit papano marunong ako ng kaunti hehehehe!

[edreams11]

experience ko sa mga varsity players nung college days ko, papasok ng late sa class tapos aalis din ng maaga. tapos ang linis ng catleya notebook walang kasulat sulat hehe. yang ang college varsity.. degree holder! 

disclaimer: this is not to generalize or discriminate them. maybe this was an isolated case back then

edreams,

sakit natamaan ako hehehehe! pero pumapasok naman ako eh kahit na pagod sa training at pinasa ko ang exams kahit papano marunong ako ng kaunti hehehehe!

naku the great, you don't owe us an explanation kc you've already made us proud by lifting tennis in our county in your own little way. eh yung ibang iskul bukol na varsity dati, asan sila ngyon? hehe

[miguel090893]

experience ko sa mga varsity players nung college days ko, papasok ng late sa class tapos aalis din ng maaga. tapos ang linis ng catleya notebook walang kasulat sulat hehe. yang ang college varsity.. degree holder! 

disclaimer: this is not to generalize or discriminate them. maybe this was an isolated case back then

edreams,

sakit natamaan ako hehehehe! pero pumapasok naman ako eh kahit na pagod sa training at pinasa ko ang exams kahit papano marunong ako ng kaunti hehehehe!

parang naeexperience ko na dn to ngaun bilang isang varsity college student )

[renald]

Going pro is like going into business. Its not for everybody and it is a very big gamble.

It depends on the childs potential, if his potential is good for top 60 atp, then by all means, skip college and go pro. You really have to see something special about the child before you choose to be pro.

If above average but not exceptional, go college tennis. It is the safer path.

Pro tennis is for the extremely good.

[renald]

c jeson lang talaga ang pro potential ng pinas,nasa kanya lahat, best coaching financial backer ni cong, talent at puso. yung iba may palo pero hanggang doon na lang, mas maigi kung mag US scholarship na lang sila at maganda rin ang kinabukasan nila.

Talent above average but what makes Jeson succeed is determination. Excluding Mamiit and Huey, nobody trains as hard as Jeson, including our top mens.

What makes the choice easy for Jeson is that there is no other alternative path for him to succeed just like MP.

I just hope that the people around him are really interested to help him and knows what they are doing and not after personal financial gains only.

dasmaboy=coach mannytech?

[luxilionwave]

There's a pinoy kid here, younger than Jeson,trains as hard as Jeson probably harder,making waves here with impressive results against ATP guys, and without the hype and fanfare...watch this kid in the future

[Tennis King]

There's a pinoy kid here, younger than Jeson,trains as hard as Jeson probably harder,making waves here with impressive results against ATP guys, and without the hype and fanfare...watch this kid in the future

Sino Sir Lux? Tagal ko nag hinahanap yang batang yan! He! he!

Kidding aside...if the junior player is my kid I would strongly recommend US College Tennis. Pro tennis is too much of the gamble.

[Bobby Armillo]

Please watch out for the upcoming Tennis Scholarship Program.

With their commitment, these kids' gifts will be harnessed to their fullest potentials to give them a brighter future.

[luxilionwave]

There's a pinoy kid here, younger than Jeson,trains as hard as Jeson probably harder,making waves here with impressive results against ATP guys, and without the hype and fanfare...watch this kid in the future

Sino Sir Lux? Tagal ko nag hinahanap yang batang yan! He! he!

Kidding aside...if the junior player is my kid I would strongly recommend US College Tennis. Pro tennis is too much of the gamble.

 
TK, Hirap hanapin sa internet noh,ha ha
I talked to the dad, the family actually prefer that the kid grow up with low profile,not too much hype and with little fanfare ala Sampras, Courier and Del Potro.
Kid has a good head and amazing hands,eye and feet. Wish the family the best! Very good people and humble family... 

[tennisfan]

 :)Hello mga sirs at kapwa tennis enthusiasts! ka re register ko lang po pero matagal tagal na rin akong sumubaybay sa mga topics dito.

Sana naman itong sinabi ni sir Lux ay makilala na natin para magkaroon na naman ng bagong inspirasyon ang mga kabataan natin.

Maraming salamat nga pala sa mga nag establish ng site na ito, at least kahit papaano makakabalita tayo sa mga activities at developments ng mga tennis hopefuls natin.

[renald]

Dont put all your eggs in one basket. At that age, its very difficult to predict the potential. Its better to have many kids than focus on one. What if she does not grow or loose interest i tennis? The future of ph tennis should start with a good program that encourages kids to play tennis, that it can be a profession just like basketball. You have to have a good pool of talents to choose from, not the basketball discards.

Look at China, they start with thousands of athletes, then every year, hundreds are cutted until you are left with the best of the best.

If you immedietly select one, how would you know that you selected the best?

[smiley]

Dont put all your eggs in one basket. At that age, its very difficult to predict the potential. Its better to have many kids than focus on one. What if she does not grow or loose interest i tennis? The future of ph tennis should start with a good program that encourages kids to play tennis, that it can be a profession just like basketball. You have to have a good pool of talents to choose from, not the basketball discards.

Look at China, they start with thousands of athletes, then every year, hundreds are cutted until you are left with the best of the best.

If you immedietly select one, how would you know that you selected the best?

Yup! i agree, singling out 1 person among the crop would end up being the favorite. kids nowadays prefers to train alongside with their peers, with same age or with better players. That way, di cla tamarin or ma-burn out.

[luxilionwave]

so true, you can only tell that kid kung pro potential na is yung rang about 16-19, when they are young, roll of dice lang yan. Still, so many factors and intangibles.

[DASMA BOY]

Lux, kilala ko yan. Talo si Jeson sa batang yan dalawang beses na, pero iba na si Jeson ngayon. Si Jeson lang ang talagang potential ng pinas, yang batang yan,parang si Mamiit laki sa America, utak at puso FilAm. S Jeson, pinoy talaga. 

[luxilionwave]

Still a Filipino, so is Cecil Mamiit, Donaire, Treat Huey, Younghusband,etc.. it does not diminish anything,...

[SLP888]

Yup! As long as they have a filipino blood they are still pinoy at heart but not mind because they are mentally corrupted by the western Ideology. Mabuhay ang Filipino!

[Darkwing]

I hate pitting my countrymen against each other. If all can succeed and be tennis pros then It'd be the pride of our nation.

The more Filipino Kids taking up the sport the more chances we have of producing champs

[luxilionwave]

SLP, FilAms are pinoy at heart And mind, too. Get to know them better before you judge them...Corrupted by western ideology,don't think so...proud of all of them home grown or locals.

[edreams11]

SLP, FilAms are pinoy at heart And mind, too...Corrupted by western ideology,don't think so...proud of all of them home grown or locals.

i kinda agree on this one. pagnagDNA yan, makakakita't-makakakita ka ng dugong pinoy na dumadaloy jan! di naman lahat ng filams or pinoys abroad are westernized. yung pamangkin ko nga sa US pinanganak pero nagtatabo pa pagnaliligo e! 

[santeb]

You still have to take into consideration the reality that this Fil-Foreigners will play for the developed country instead of the Philippines if they had the option. That's why Mamiit only played for the Philippines after he could not do so for the US and that is why Day (Fil-Australian who contended for the Masters in Golf) would play for Australia instead of the Philippines. Days dad even passed away way back in 2000 in Australia so I'm sure his Filipino mother is now the greatest influence in his life. It's just the practicality of it.

[smiley]

SLP, FilAms are pinoy at heart And mind, too...Corrupted by western ideology,don't think so...proud of all of them home grown or locals.

i kinda agree on this one. pagnagDNA yan, makakakita't-makakakita ka ng dugong pinoy na dumadaloy jan! di naman lahat ng filams or pinoys abroad are westernized. yung pamangkin ko nga sa US pinanganak pero nagtatabo pa pagnaliligo e! 

nagamit din ba ng buhay na bato o labakara panghilod? 

[renald]

Lux, kilala ko yan. Talo si Jeson sa batang yan dalawang beses na, pero iba na si Jeson ngayon. Si Jeson lang ang talagang potential ng pinas, yang batang yan,parang si Mamiit laki sa America, utak at puso FilAm. S Jeson, pinoy talaga. 

Dasma, is it true that Jeson needed 3 sets to beat 16 year old local boy sa Dapitan?

[Bobby Armillo]

Philippine tennis big shot and godfather to support Sports Scholarship Program (SSP) - TENNIS. @SLP, we went to meet Tito RC at his house and he's very much willing to help on the elite level This is something to look forward to

[smiley]

Philippine tennis big shot and godfather to support Sports Scholarship Program (SSP) - TENNIS. @SLP, we went to meet Tito RC at his house and he's very much willing to help on the elite level This is something to look forward to

 

[SLP888]

Kowch Bob,

I talked to him last week about it and He had in mind 2 boys for the elite program now(Jurence Mendoza and Albert Lim). He's going to support the 2 boys.

[Bobby Armillo]

SLP, Yes that's correct, I was at TRC's house on the first day of the program. He's making it 4 boys and 4 girls and these players will leave sometime soon to train and compete abroad. TRC opened opportunity for Sports Scholarship Program (SSP) - TENNIS scholars to qualify for the elite program. Many other coaches were present that day.

[LTA USA]

Luxilonwave, name of kid and section?