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« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2010, 01:00:03 PM » |
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agree with you there. Big difference yung work ethic nila Cecil and Huey compared to our locals. Also the biggest reason is their exposure also since they were young.
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« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2010, 01:03:49 PM » |
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YEAH! NAKA-MAINTAIN TAYO SA GROUP I. SUSUNOD, WORLD GROUP NA!!!
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« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2010, 01:08:57 PM » |
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agree with you there. Big difference yung work ethic nila Cecil and Huey compared to our locals. Also the biggest reason is their exposure also since they were young.
Maybe because our local players lack motivation on there practice ..coz they know that they will be relegated to the sidelines because of the Filams... personal opinion lang po!!!  |
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« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2010, 01:22:45 PM » |
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true, kulang sa motivation pero as a player kung gusto mo talaga umangat kailangan talaga magsumikap regardless of the conditions. Pero on what I've heard, Jean Henry Lhuillier prefers locals to be on the top of the davis cup team. Wla lang talagang isa sa kanila na may characteristics na gusto umangat. Iniisip kc nila agad na di nila kaya. Actually, sa tingin ko ang palo ni Arcilla against Mamiit pareho lang. Nasa training at dedication sila nagkaiba. More on mental toughness ang kulang sa mga locals natin. Kaya nasasayang lang ang mga skills nila.
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« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2010, 01:25:51 PM » |
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If my memory serves me right our davis cup team used to beat the koreans way back!!.. and they are all homegrown talents |
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« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2010, 02:19:04 PM » |
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totoo yan Addie, agree with you there. Big difference yung work ethic nila Cecil and Huey compared to our locals. Also the biggest reason is their exposure also since they were young.
Maybe because our local players lack motivation on there practice ..coz they know that they will be relegated to the sidelines because of the Filams... personal opinion lang po!!! If my memory serves me right our davis cup team used to beat the koreans way back!!.. and they are all homegrown talents Decades ago, our locals were really world beaters. Ampon, Deyro, Johnny Jose, Carmona, Luzon, Dominguez, Hernandez, Sam Ang, Beeyong Sison , Manny Tolentino, Barrientos , So etc...Astig talaga. Even Manny Tecson was also a world beater in juniors beating the likes of Marcelo Lara in the early 80s. Now, our locals can barely beat even ASEAN neigbors. |
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« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2010, 02:24:12 PM » |
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« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2010, 02:24:56 PM » |
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Yep, agree ako dyan. After the lizardo and Angelo era wla na sumunod. Palayo ng palayo tayo kaya siguro nagimport na lang tayo.
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« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2010, 02:29:58 PM » |
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The state of tennis in our country today is in a quandary.
If they field an all homegrown pool of players in the Davis Cup and got clobbered and we got relegated to Group 2, they would be criticized no end. But now that we won and maintained our Group 1 status with Fil-Foreigners we can still hear grumblings.
In the absence of an honest to goodness grassroots program, talent identification, training, exposure etc. we have to make do with the talent that is visible and available. They may not be natural homegrown talents but their Filipino hearts cannot be discounted.
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« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2010, 02:37:31 PM » |
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totoo yan Addie, agree with you there. Big difference yung work ethic nila Cecil and Huey compared to our locals. Also the biggest reason is their exposure also since they were young.
Maybe because our local players lack motivation on there practice ..coz they know that they will be relegated to the sidelines because of the Filams... personal opinion lang po!!! If my memory serves me right our davis cup team used to beat the koreans way back!!.. and they are all homegrown talents Decades ago, our locals were really world beaters. Ampon, Deyro, Johnny Jose, Carmona, Luzon, Dominguez, Hernandez, Sam Ang, Beeyong Sison , Manny Tolentino, Barrientos , So etc...Astig talaga. Even Manny Tecson was also a world beater in juniors beating the likes of Marcelo Lara in the early 80s. Now, our locals can barely beat even ASEAN neigbors. To those who were in-the-know during 1991 and below years, what do you think is the difference then and now? How come we did produce greater players then? Is it the perennial issue of government support or private sponsorship? Or the following generations didn't mutate well enough to compete internationally? Just asking. |
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« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2010, 02:53:41 PM » |
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Opinion ko lang. Halo-halo na cguro. Iba magisip ang mga pros natin dati sa ngayon. Parang more on spotlight ang gusto ng mga bago. Just try to compare Beeyong and mga pros natin ngayon. Nakita ko na si Beeyong maglaro ng tournament noong late 1990s pero natatalo pa nya ung mga bata pa sa kanya. Sa strokes medyo dihado si Beeyong pero tactics and mental toughness iba talaga. Di siya nagbibigay ng bola na gusto ng kalaban niya. Isip noong mga dati natin ay tennis muna sakana ung spotlight.
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« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2010, 03:12:54 PM » |
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wow galing congrats team philippines.
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« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2010, 03:37:20 PM » |
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To many factors to blame for the present state of pinoy tennis. No grassroots program, limited corporate sponsorships, lack of talent identification, our best coaches are all working overseas, or even the shrinking middle class and also too much basketball  in the Philippines. Sana in my lifetime, I get to see a Pinoy world beater ala Srichaphan and Michael Chang. |
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« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2010, 03:57:14 PM » |
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The state of tennis in our country today is in a quandary.
If they field an all homegrown pool of players in the Davis Cup and got clobbered and we got relegated to Group 2, they would be criticized no end. But now that we won and maintained our Group 1 status with Fil-Foreigners we can still hear grumblings.
In the absence of an honest to goodness grassroots program, talent identification, training, exposure etc. we have to make do with the talent that is visible and available. They may not be natural homegrown talents but their Filipino hearts cannot be discounted.
In my own humble opinion i rather see home grown talents being clobbered rather than see our team winning with imports... i know in the long run they will have the proper experience to hurdle those foreign players just like before!! some may argue that tennis today is much harder than before.. but i think with the proper motivation ,our players will cope with the present trends |
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« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2010, 04:04:06 PM » |
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To many factors to blame for the present state of pinoy tennis. No grassroots program, limited corporate sponsorships, lack of talent identification, our best coaches are all working overseas, or even the shrinking middle class and also too much basketball in the Philippines. Sana in my lifetime, I get to see a Pinoy world beater ala Srichaphan and Michael Chang. A wishful thinking Sir Lux!!! .. If only our ... never mind |
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« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2010, 06:04:01 PM » |
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Haha Bangko n nman |
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« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2010, 09:28:50 PM » |
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I posted this before in another thread WIDEN THE NET TO CATCH A CHAMP If politics rears its ugly head, we can kiss a pinoy world class tennis player good bye. |
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« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2010, 10:09:13 PM » |
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Group 1 draw will be done on Wednesday.... we are grouped with Australia, Uzbekistan, China, Japan, Taiwan, New Zealand.
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« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2010, 11:52:59 AM » |
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Has anybody seen the replay of this tie in our local channels?
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« Reply #70 on: September 21, 2010, 01:20:01 PM » |
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oo nga. kung meron pong nakaka-alam, penge naman schedules please... thanks.
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« Reply #71 on: September 21, 2010, 10:12:19 PM » |
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Tapos na yung draw for the 2011 Davis Cup.. di ko naabutan yung makakalaban natin. Australia first round bye makakalaban nila 2nd round yung winner between China and Taiwan.
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« Reply #72 on: September 22, 2010, 06:43:51 AM » |
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Japan ang 1st round ng Philippines. choice of ground Philippines.
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« Reply #73 on: September 22, 2010, 08:46:07 AM » |
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Very good chance! Pag PCA ang venue, may pagasa tayo. Sana tuloy tuloy na before Cecil retires.
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« Reply #74 on: September 22, 2010, 12:27:08 PM » |
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Mukhang magandang panoorin to. Di pa ako nakapanood ng davis cup ever since.
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« Reply #75 on: September 22, 2010, 12:30:01 PM » |
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sana po may mag post ng schedule and venue pag malapit na para mas maraming makapanood and makapag bigay ng moral support sa mga players natin. =)
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« Reply #76 on: September 22, 2010, 12:37:18 PM » |
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Mukhang magandang panoorin to. Di pa ako nakapanood ng davis cup ever since.
me too! nakapanood ako ng SEA games sa Rizal nun. Mamiit vs Udomchoke, pati ung doubles Mamiit/ Taino vs ung twins ng Thailand. iba ung electricity dun. |
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« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2010, 12:54:42 PM » |
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sana po may mag post ng schedule and venue pag malapit na para mas maraming makapanood and makapag bigay ng moral support sa mga players natin. =)
don't worry. andaming nakatutok nyan dito. tapos nagkikita-kita na lang sa venue. ayos yan pag PCA. me chance tayo dahil sa shell court un. itlog tayo nun sa rizal eh |
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« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2010, 01:12:13 PM » |
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thanks Whizzard. abang-abang nalang tayo. sana po may mag post ng schedule and venue pag malapit na para mas maraming makapanood and makapag bigay ng moral support sa mga players natin. =)
don't worry. andaming nakatutok nyan dito. tapos nagkikita-kita na lang sa venue. ayos yan pag PCA. me chance tayo dahil sa shell court un. itlog tayo nun sa rizal eh |
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« Reply #80 on: September 23, 2010, 04:32:04 AM » |
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« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2010, 09:53:57 AM » |
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ei mga ka-PTO sama ako dito hehehe sarap manuod nito.......
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« Reply #83 on: September 23, 2010, 10:03:37 AM » |
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ei mga ka-PTO sama ako dito hehehe sarap manuod nito.......
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