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« on: August 23, 2010, 04:20:15 PM »

mga dude, need your opinion..

currenly I'm using Head LiquidMetal Radical MP, I've been using it for more than a year (mag 2years pa lang me naglalaro usually every weekends na lang), pero untill now feeling ko wala pa rin akong control sa palo ko (lagi out or net), hindi ko rin kadalasan matamaan sa sweetspot lalo na sa backhand, lalo na sa volley as in zero...tingin ko maybe dahil heavy racquet sya, or baka hirap lang ako i-maneuver correctly....

gamit ko dati yung Prince Turbo Shark OS, magaan sya i-swing saka power i-palo, problem ko lang yung grip ng Prince racquets  which is mas round (squared) compared sa Head na rectangular mas hindi naikot sa kamay ko...sweaty hands kasi ako kaya umiikot or loose grip lagi...

which Head racquet kaya ang magandang replacement or upgrade? yung mas my control and power din and mas magaan-mabilis i-swing?

shots ko nga pala ay more on forehand and backhand (2-handed, pero parang gusto ko mag 1-hand backhand) drive-topspin pa lang, wala pa akong slice and other techniques.

may pinagpipilian din ako (base lang sa reviews sa youtube and internet, Im leaning between 1 and 2 )

1. Head Youtek Speed Elite
2. Head Youtek Extreme MP
Head LiquidMetal Radical Flexpoint MP
Head Youtek Speed Lite
Head Youtek Extreme Pro

thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2010, 11:24:41 PM »

ako din chong, shift sa magaan at malaking head.

gusto ko try mo youtek radical lite or wilson kpro team fx.
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2010, 11:38:56 PM »

ako din chong, shift sa magaan at malaking head.

gusto ko try mo youtek radical lite or wilson kpro team fx.

ako din, parang gusto ko sumubok ng light racquet, nagtingin ako sa toby's and chris sports kanina, sale yung Flexpoint Instint saka Flexpoint Instinct Team, ang gaan nung Instinct Team saka mas malaki head ng konti compared sa Liquidmetal Radical ko now, ok kaya yun? baka kasi puro power baka lagi out bola ko?

yung LiquidMetal Radical Flexpoint MP, parang gusto ko talaga, kaya lang same lang din yata ng LiquidMetal Radical, pinagkaiba lang yata yung butas-flexpoint...although slight difference ng swing rating, L3 (L4 yung liquidmetal radical)
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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 04:13:30 AM »

mga dude, need your opinion..

currenly I'm using Head LiquidMetal Radical MP, I've been using it for more than a year (mag 2years pa lang me naglalaro usually every weekends na lang), pero untill now feeling ko wala pa rin akong control sa palo ko (lagi out or net), hindi ko rin kadalasan matamaan sa sweetspot lalo na sa backhand, lalo na sa volley as in zero...tingin ko maybe dahil heavy racquet sya, or baka hirap lang ako i-maneuver correctly....

gamit ko dati yung Prince Turbo Shark OS, magaan sya i-swing saka power i-palo, problem ko lang yung grip ng Prince racquets  which is mas round (squared) compared sa Head na rectangular mas hindi naikot sa kamay ko...sweaty hands kasi ako kaya umiikot or loose grip lagi...

which Head racquet kaya ang magandang replacement or upgrade? yung mas my control and power din and mas magaan-mabilis i-swing?

shots ko nga pala ay more on forehand and backhand (2-handed, pero parang gusto ko mag 1-hand backhand) drive-topspin pa lang, wala pa akong slice and other techniques.

may pinagpipilian din ako (base lang sa reviews sa youtube and internet, Im leaning between 1 and 2 )

1. Head Youtek Speed Elite
2. Head Youtek Extreme MP
Head LiquidMetal Radical Flexpoint MP
Head Youtek Speed Lite
Head Youtek Extreme Pro

thanks!


Haven’t seen your strokes, but I think this is a stoke issue more than it is a racket issue.  The Radical is more of a control racket with its tight 18x20 string pattern, so kung lagi out or net ang mga bola mo, the control problem in my opinion is with your strokes, not with the racket.

From what you posted, it seems to me that you’re still looking for your strike zone. Hit the ball behind your strike zone and you will tend to open up the racket face and your shot goes long.  Hit ahead of your strike zone and your racket face will tend to be closed thus sending your shot into the net. This is a timing issue.

If the majority of your shots are topspin, the Head grip shape might also be an issue.  The rectangular shape of Head grips are not really conducive to semi-western or western grips that is necessary for topspin, unless you have an exaggerated looping topspin swing.  Agassi, the most notable Radical player, actually has his racket customized with a Prince-type grip. Murray and Soderling, although advertised as Radical players, are actually using the Prestige with a Radical paintjob.

Your switch from the Shark OS to the LM Rad MP was a drastic change, and I think it kind of messed up the strokes you were used to in order to compensate for the change.

So, I would suggest that before spending your cash on a new stick, get your strokes in order, find your strike zone and work on your timing.  If you really want a new Head racket, I think the Youtek Extreme MP looks like a good bet.  A bit more power than the LM Rad, but more control than the Shark OS.  Unfortunately, there’s nothing we can do about the Head grip shape.
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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 06:12:31 AM »


I was using a Prince O3 Silver OS before, then decided to try & experiment with the heavier midplus racquets of my friends, like babolat, liquidmetal, wilson, lalong lumala yung palo ko. Then nag decide ako na subukan ang Prince EXO3 white 100 at umakma naman sa strokes ko.
Nag open ako dati ng thread dito asking for some feedback sa EXO3 kaya lang bago pa may mag reply, nabili na ni mrs yung racquet. Cheesy 
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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2010, 11:44:36 PM »

mga dude, need your opinion..

currenly I'm using Head LiquidMetal Radical MP, I've been using it for more than a year (mag 2years pa lang me naglalaro usually every weekends na lang), pero untill now feeling ko wala pa rin akong control sa palo ko (lagi out or net), hindi ko rin kadalasan matamaan sa sweetspot lalo na sa backhand, lalo na sa volley as in zero...tingin ko maybe dahil heavy racquet sya, or baka hirap lang ako i-maneuver correctly....

gamit ko dati yung Prince Turbo Shark OS, magaan sya i-swing saka power i-palo, problem ko lang yung grip ng Prince racquets  which is mas round (squared) compared sa Head na rectangular mas hindi naikot sa kamay ko...sweaty hands kasi ako kaya umiikot or loose grip lagi...

which Head racquet kaya ang magandang replacement or upgrade? yung mas my control and power din and mas magaan-mabilis i-swing?

shots ko nga pala ay more on forehand and backhand (2-handed, pero parang gusto ko mag 1-hand backhand) drive-topspin pa lang, wala pa akong slice and other techniques.

may pinagpipilian din ako (base lang sa reviews sa youtube and internet, Im leaning between 1 and 2 )

1. Head Youtek Speed Elite
2. Head Youtek Extreme MP
Head LiquidMetal Radical Flexpoint MP
Head Youtek Speed Lite
Head Youtek Extreme Pro

thanks!


Haven’t seen your strokes, but I think this is a stoke issue more than it is a racket issue.  The Radical is more of a control racket with its tight 18x20 string pattern, so kung lagi out or net ang mga bola mo, the control problem in my opinion is with your strokes, not with the racket.

From what you posted, it seems to me that you’re still looking for your strike zone. Hit the ball behind your strike zone and you will tend to open up the racket face and your shot goes long.  Hit ahead of your strike zone and your racket face will tend to be closed thus sending your shot into the net. This is a timing issue.

If the majority of your shots are topspin, the Head grip shape might also be an issue.  The rectangular shape of Head grips are not really conducive to semi-western or western grips that is necessary for topspin, unless you have an exaggerated looping topspin swing.  Agassi, the most notable Radical player, actually has his racket customized with a Prince-type grip. Murray and Soderling, although advertised as Radical players, are actually using the Prestige with a Radical paintjob.

Your switch from the Shark OS to the LM Rad MP was a drastic change, and I think it kind of messed up the strokes you were used to in order to compensate for the change.

So, I would suggest that before spending your cash on a new stick, get your strokes in order, find your strike zone and work on your timing.  If you really want a new Head racket, I think the Youtek Extreme MP looks like a good bet.  A bit more power than the LM Rad, but more control than the Shark OS.  Unfortunately, there’s nothing we can do about the Head grip shape.


many thanks for the inputs sir racketwiz:)

yes sir, I think nasa palo ko din ang problem, lalo na sa volleys as in di ko matutunan, hoping lang siguro na ma-compensate or ma-correct if mag switch ako sa lighter racket or sa racket na medyo mas may "own" power kahit just a little compared sa LM Radical MP...

I could say naman na mas nagustuhan ko ang LM Radical MP compared sa Prince Turbo Shard OS and Prince Speedport White MP (or maybe because mas matagal ko nagamit sa games yung Head LM Radical MP., 1st racket ko kasi yung Prince kaya more on drills lang)

problem ko nga din ang strike zone ko, kalimitan late palo ko minsan too early..pero pag tamang-tama lang, ganda ng balik ng bola..post din ako ng video hanapin ko lang:) tingin ko lang kulang sa power or bilis yung balik ng bola kahit full power na ko.

sir may idea po kayo about Head Liquidmetal Radical Flexpoint MP and Liquidmetal Radical Flexpoint Team? na-try ko kasi yung Flexpoint MP, feeling ko mas magaan i-swing, pero all in all parang same lang ng LM Radical...yung Flexpoint Team po kaya?
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I was using a Prince O3 Silver OS before, then decided to try & experiment with the heavier midplus racquets of my friends, like babolat, liquidmetal, wilson, lalong lumala yung palo ko. Then nag decide ako na subukan ang Prince EXO3 white 100 at umakma naman sa strokes ko.
Nag open ako dati ng thread dito asking for some feedback sa EXO3 kaya lang bago pa may mag reply, nabili na ni mrs yung racquet. Cheesy 

meron naman ako dati yung Prince Speedport White MP, di ko nagustuhan parang sobrang stiff saka ang bigat i-palo...although ganda ng tunog ng swing lalo sa serve humuhuni yung ports hehe! wala pang 1month sakin binenta ko din.

yung Prince Exo3 Green na-demo ko din, demo racket kasi sa Toby's so hiniram ko lang Grin
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 02:59:43 AM »

many thanks for the inputs sir racketwiz:)

yes sir, I think nasa palo ko din ang problem, lalo na sa volleys as in di ko matutunan, hoping lang siguro na ma-compensate or ma-correct if mag switch ako sa lighter racket or sa racket na medyo mas may "own" power kahit just a little compared sa LM Radical MP...

I could say naman na mas nagustuhan ko ang LM Radical MP compared sa Prince Turbo Shard OS and Prince Speedport White MP (or maybe because mas matagal ko nagamit sa games yung Head LM Radical MP., 1st racket ko kasi yung Prince kaya more on drills lang)

problem ko nga din ang strike zone ko, kalimitan late palo ko minsan too early..pero pag tamang-tama lang, ganda ng balik ng bola..post din ako ng video hanapin ko lang:) tingin ko lang kulang sa power or bilis yung balik ng bola kahit full power na ko.

sir may idea po kayo about Head Liquidmetal Radical Flexpoint MP and Liquidmetal Radical Flexpoint Team? na-try ko kasi yung Flexpoint MP, feeling ko mas magaan i-swing, pero all in all parang same lang ng LM Radical...yung Flexpoint Team po kaya?


I did not mention the FXP Rad kasi halos same ang specs niya sa LM Rad.  The Team version is lighter.  But, according to most Rad players I run into, they prefer the LM over the FXP.  So, maybe better for you to stick with the LM Rad for now.  But, if you’re looking for more power, the Extreme can provide that.

I don’t think switching to a lighter racket, per se, is the cure.  It may be easier to swing but you have to swing harder and faster to get some power.  The combination of harder and faster swing with a lighter racket creates a lot of stress on the arm.  And it’s easier to lose control, too.  Plus, kung poly strings pa ang gamit mo, additional impact stress din yun.  Kawawa ang braso mo.

Once you groove your strokes and improve your game, believe me, you will not like lightweight rackets.  Power will come with proper strokes, footwork, positioning and good timing.  Tingnan mo si Henin, parang patpat compared to Serena pero simple ang strokes, very smooth ang swing at may power din.

Practice ka na muna. The better your strokes get, the better idea you will have of what kind of racket you need, performance-wise. And it won’t necessarily have to be a Head.  Along the way, try to hit with other rackets as well.
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2010, 10:49:09 AM »

speedtrap, dapat pala hiniram mo sakin yung racquet ko nung PTO anniv para ma testing mo ng palo. hehehe!  Grin

ako din chong, shift sa magaan at malaking head.

gusto ko try mo youtek radical lite or wilson kpro team fx.

ako din, parang gusto ko sumubok ng light racquet, nagtingin ako sa toby's and chris sports kanina, sale yung Flexpoint Instint saka Flexpoint Instinct Team, ang gaan nung Instinct Team saka mas malaki head ng konti compared sa Liquidmetal Radical ko now, ok kaya yun? baka kasi puro power baka lagi out bola ko?

yung LiquidMetal Radical Flexpoint MP, parang gusto ko talaga, kaya lang same lang din yata ng LiquidMetal Radical, pinagkaiba lang yata yung butas-flexpoint...although slight difference ng swing rating, L3 (L4 yung liquidmetal radical)
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 01:24:00 PM »

speedtrap, dapat pala hiniram mo sakin yung racquet ko nung PTO anniv para ma testing mo ng palo. hehehe!  Grin

ako din chong, shift sa magaan at malaking head.

gusto ko try mo youtek radical lite or wilson kpro team fx.

ako din, parang gusto ko sumubok ng light racquet, nagtingin ako sa toby's and chris sports kanina, sale yung Flexpoint Instint saka Flexpoint Instinct Team, ang gaan nung Instinct Team saka mas malaki head ng konti compared sa Liquidmetal Radical ko now, ok kaya yun? baka kasi puro power baka lagi out bola ko?

yung LiquidMetal Radical Flexpoint MP, parang gusto ko talaga, kaya lang same lang din yata ng LiquidMetal Radical, pinagkaiba lang yata yung butas-flexpoint...although slight difference ng swing rating, L3 (L4 yung liquidmetal radical)

hehe I want to, kaya lang kakahiya palo ko dami makakakita hahaha! Grin
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 01:42:15 PM »

many thanks for the inputs sir racketwiz:)

yes sir, I think nasa palo ko din ang problem, lalo na sa volleys as in di ko matutunan, hoping lang siguro na ma-compensate or ma-correct if mag switch ako sa lighter racket or sa racket na medyo mas may "own" power kahit just a little compared sa LM Radical MP...

I could say naman na mas nagustuhan ko ang LM Radical MP compared sa Prince Turbo Shard OS and Prince Speedport White MP (or maybe because mas matagal ko nagamit sa games yung Head LM Radical MP., 1st racket ko kasi yung Prince kaya more on drills lang)

problem ko nga din ang strike zone ko, kalimitan late palo ko minsan too early..pero pag tamang-tama lang, ganda ng balik ng bola..post din ako ng video hanapin ko lang:) tingin ko lang kulang sa power or bilis yung balik ng bola kahit full power na ko.

sir may idea po kayo about Head Liquidmetal Radical Flexpoint MP and Liquidmetal Radical Flexpoint Team? na-try ko kasi yung Flexpoint MP, feeling ko mas magaan i-swing, pero all in all parang same lang ng LM Radical...yung Flexpoint Team po kaya?


I did not mention the FXP Rad kasi halos same ang specs niya sa LM Rad.  The Team version is lighter.  But, according to most Rad players I run into, they prefer the LM over the FXP.  So, maybe better for you to stick with the LM Rad for now.  But, if you’re looking for more power, the Extreme can provide that.

I don’t think switching to a lighter racket, per se, is the cure.  It may be easier to swing but you have to swing harder and faster to get some power.  The combination of harder and faster swing with a lighter racket creates a lot of stress on the arm.  And it’s easier to lose control, too.  Plus, kung poly strings pa ang gamit mo, additional impact stress din yun.  Kawawa ang braso mo.

Once you groove your strokes and improve your game, believe me, you will not like lightweight rackets.  Power will come with proper strokes, footwork, positioning and good timing.  Tingnan mo si Henin, parang patpat compared to Serena pero simple ang strokes, very smooth ang swing at may power din.

Practice ka na muna. The better your strokes get, the better idea you will have of what kind of racket you need, performance-wise. And it won’t necessarily have to be a Head.  Along the way, try to hit with other rackets as well.


tingin ko nga din sir, almost the same ang FXP Rad compared sa LM Rad, yung FXP holes lang yata ang main difference...feeling ko lang talaga mas magaan i-swing yung FXP Rad, pero almost same power and control like the LM Rad... kaya naisip ko yung FXP Rad Team, since mas malaki ang head size and mas magaan, Im thinking na may added power not sure lang if may control pa din or baka mahirapan ako mag-adjust...and since bigger frame, baka makatulong sa volley..

one reason din kaya gusto ko sumubok ng ibang racket, medyo masakit na din sa braso pero im thinking baka dahil sa string tension since hard hitter din me and puro drive..58lbs cross and mains, prince let 'r rip hybrid poly and synthetic...

um, head rackets din nagustuhan ko gawa nung rectangular shape na handle, mas hindi naikot sa kamay ko sweaty hands kasi...

yung Head Youtek Extreme, nagtingin ako sa Tobys and Chris Sports kung meron na sila or kung may demo racket din, pero Yung Youtek Lite and Speed pa lang meron sila.

many thanks talaga sir sa mga advices u:)


wahh! kakainis talaga tennis, nakaka sira ng ulo hahaha!
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 02:05:10 PM »

ayun o! yun na! thanks thanks... nagkaka shoulder pain ako at pag tagal tagal late na lagi palo ko. kaya gusto ko try magaan. lalo pag stretch shots para mabuhat ko yung raketa at ma tapik ko pa kahit papano. RW dya think ok yung wilson kpro team fx? parang ganda ng specs e. more on flat ako. gusto ko tumagal sa laro ng ok pa arms ko ng di napwepwersa kumbaga mas relax. static weight and swingweight nya swak i think para sa katulad kong medyo lampa sa running shots.

tama si RW. medyo nagkaka problema ako sa grip change pag sa HEAD.

1. kpro team fx
2. kobra team fx

sana may specs din na malapit dyan na 105 in2 above. low static weight at swingweight.
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 07:42:01 PM »

wahh! lalo na me nalito..I thought kasi, the bigger the frame, the more head heavy, the lighter, mas may "own" power...


Head - FXP Radical Team
http://www.tennis.com/gear/showRacquetReview.aspx?ID=345

"With its medium weight and even balance, the FXP Radical Team is maneuverable at net; playtesters said the racquet handled wonderfully on quick volley exchanges. The flexible construction gives you excellent “feel” to execute touch volleys, but it requires decent technique to put the ball away because you have less power. At the baseline, the racquet was equally easy to swing, though playtesters wished the frame had a bit more power; if you don’t take a strong swing, your shots tend to land short. And stability could be improved. “When I mishit the ball toward the sides of the head, I didn’t have confidence it would stay steady,” one 4.5 tester said. But spin production, because of the more open string bed, was outstanding. This is a good transition racquet for two types of players—older ones who still swing hard but need a lighter racquet, and juniors stepping up to their first performance frame."

"Not particularly powerful, this racquet stands out for its maneuverability and spin production"



Head - Flexpoint Radical (Mid-plus)
http://www.tennis.com/gear/showRacquetReview.aspx?ID=340

"At the 3 and 9 o’clock positions of the head, the Radical has something new: dimples, and holes drilled through the beam, creating Flexpoints that are supposed to allow the head to bend on impact, cupping the ball for more power and control. It works. Advanced players with long, fast swings will savor the Mid-Plus because it’s accurate and generates a surprising amount of pop. The frame also feels less boardy than 2002’s Liquidmetal Radical, since the Flexpoints cushion the blow. The oversize has a tighter string pattern than you typically find in a larger head, which makes the string bed feel a little stiff. After playtesters got used to the feeling, they found that although the racquet wasn’t ideal for hitting flat shots, which tended to sail long, it aided them on heavier topspin ground strokes and lobs".

"While the Flexpoint Radical isn’t significantly different from the last Radical, it’s yet another improvement for one of Head’s franchise frames"
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 10:35:25 PM »

pre, isa lang solution jan. punta ka sa sabado and test mo racquet ko. hehehe! pag maganda feel mo, bilhin mo na din! hahahaha!
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pre, isa lang solution jan. punta ka sa sabado and test mo racquet ko. hehehe! pag maganda feel mo, bilhin mo na din! hahahaha!


hahaha! wahhhh! It's too late...just purchased a brandnew Head Flexpoint Radical Team.
ang tagal ko sa mall, kung FXP Team or MP hehe!
sakit na sa ulo kakaisip kung ano ipapalit ko sa LM Radical ko eh ayun binili ko na.
can't wait to use it, sana hindi umulan bukas ng gabi and these weekend Grin
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2010, 01:04:44 PM »

hahaha! nice, ilan binili mo? tsaka magkano na pala sya ngaun?

pre, isa lang solution jan. punta ka sa sabado and test mo racquet ko. hehehe! pag maganda feel mo, bilhin mo na din! hahahaha!


hahaha! wahhhh! It's too late...just purchased a brandnew Head Flexpoint Radical Team.
ang tagal ko sa mall, kung FXP Team or MP hehe!
sakit na sa ulo kakaisip kung ano ipapalit ko sa LM Radical ko eh ayun binili ko na.
can't wait to use it, sana hindi umulan bukas ng gabi and these weekend Grin
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2010, 01:38:58 PM »

isa lang muna, pero naka-ready na yung ka-pair in case magustuhan ko hehehe!
yung sayo sana, kaya lang iba kasi di ba grip size Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2010, 01:44:23 PM »

hehehe! nice, para na tayong kambal nyan! pareho ng racquet.  Wink

isa lang muna, pero naka-ready na yung ka-pair in case magustuhan ko hehehe!
yung sayo sana, kaya lang iba kasi di ba grip size Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2010, 01:46:22 PM »

wahhhh! ang gaan nga nya, parang dapat yung FXP Rad MP na lang kinuha ko, anyway, malaman mamaya gabi or bukas hehehe pls pls bro wag po uulan!
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2010, 01:49:00 PM »

pre, pasyal ka bukas sa Citadella para rain or shine makalaro ka. medyo umuulan na dito sa Sucat eh..  Embarrassed

wahhhh! ang gaan nga nya, parang dapat yung FXP Rad MP na lang kinuha ko, anyway, malaman mamaya gabi or bukas hehehe pls pls bro wag po uulan!
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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2010, 01:50:49 PM »

pre, pasyal ka bukas sa Citadella para rain or shine makalaro ka. medyo umuulan na dito sa Sucat eh..  Embarrassed

wahhhh! ang gaan nga nya, parang dapat yung FXP Rad MP na lang kinuha ko, anyway, malaman mamaya gabi or bukas hehehe pls pls bro wag po uulan!

kakahiya ntrp 1.0 pa lang ako eh!!!! tapos hard court pa wahhhh! nagiging .5 ntrp ako sa hardcourt Grin
cge cge hopefully makapunta me Smiley
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