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« on: August 19, 2007, 03:03:43 PM »

August 13, 2007 - Don’t overdo it 
By Tom Perrotta

Have a match coming up against the top player in your league? That guy or gal who beats you every time, even if you start out with a big lead? Take a lesson from last weekend’s Rogers Cup champ, Novak Djokovic, and don’t worry about playing up to your opponent — just be yourself.

You’re not unique for wanting to play your absolute best against the best competition. But asking that much of yourself — I have to hit more winners, fewer errors, and better angles, TODAY — often produces decidedly worse results. Playing within yourself isn’t easy, but there are ways to approach a match that can help you do it.

Think about spin and depth, not power: Players too often think they have to hit the ball harder against a quality opponent. You’re probably better off working your opponent with softer, topspin strokes that clear the net by a safer margin and land deeper in the court. If your opponent has less to work with — fewer short balls and fewer obvious angles — you’ll find more chances coming your way.

Don’t be afraid to use the middle of the court: You don’t always have to put your opponent on the run (check out how many backhands Djokovic aimed at Rafael Nadal’s feet in the semifinals of the Rogers Cup). It’s difficult to create angles, and hit winners, off deep shots in the center of the court. If you jam your opponent, you might get that short ball you’ve been waiting for.

Use your second serve as a first serve: Unless you are an ace machine, keep that first-serve percentage high, even if it means a little less pace and a little more spin. Concentrate on placement.

Repetition is your friend: If you find something your opponent doesn’t like, keep going after it. Do you think Djokovic felt guilty about pounding Federer’s backhand over and over again on Sunday? You don’t need to look better than your opponent. Winning will do just fine.

 
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2007, 05:39:07 PM »

Got this from Tennis Warehouse message board;

you play above your level to  improve.
you play below your level to learn how to win.
yo play within your level to compete....
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 01:00:39 PM »

August 13, 2007 - Don’t overdo it 
By Tom Perrotta

Have a match coming up against the top player in your league? That guy or gal who beats you every time, even if you start out with a big lead? Take a lesson from last weekend’s Rogers Cup champ, Novak Djokovic, and don’t worry about playing up to your opponent — just be yourself.

You’re not unique for wanting to play your absolute best against the best competition. But asking that much of yourself — I have to hit more winners, fewer errors, and better angles, TODAY — often produces decidedly worse results. Playing within yourself isn’t easy, but there are ways to approach a match that can help you do it.

Think about spin and depth, not power: Players too often think they have to hit the ball harder against a quality opponent. You’re probably better off working your opponent with softer, topspin strokes that clear the net by a safer margin and land deeper in the court. If your opponent has less to work with — fewer short balls and fewer obvious angles — you’ll find more chances coming your way.

Don’t be afraid to use the middle of the court: You don’t always have to put your opponent on the run (check out how many backhands Djokovic aimed at Rafael Nadal’s feet in the semifinals of the Rogers Cup). It’s difficult to create angles, and hit winners, off deep shots in the center of the court. If you jam your opponent, you might get that short ball you’ve been waiting for.

Use your second serve as a first serve: Unless you are an ace machine, keep that first-serve percentage high, even if it means a little less pace and a little more spin. Concentrate on placement.

Repetition is your friend: If you find something your opponent doesn’t like, keep going after it. Do you think Djokovic felt guilty about pounding Federer’s backhand over and over again on Sunday? You don’t need to look better than your opponent. Winning will do just fine.

 


I'm not sure if these tips from Tom Perrotta really works(maybe case to case baka pede), medyo contradicting kasi mga tips nya. He mentioned something about percentage play such as placement, spin and depth and not power.

But what Djokovic did to federer's backhand was pounding the ball with power. If he don't do it with power, it will be just like
"lugaw" for Federer's backhand to hit the ball down the line or whatever he likes to close the point.

Same is true when he played Nadal, aiming to Nadal's feet but with power(means also mabilis ang dating ng bola).
By doing so, he rob Nadal's time to react on his hitting position.
With that situation, Nadal could not put more power and spin thus giving that jamming effect. Mostly short ball  when it  returns back to Djokovic.
If Djokovic doesnt employ power and speed, kakainin sya ng strong high looping topsin ni Nadal.

This is just my opinion...... Grin Grin Grin Feel free to react also... Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2007, 06:19:26 AM »

correct, he needs power shot to beat rafa's power looping forehand and roger's great backhand, but im sure novak has gameplan before game start, i mean napag aralan na nila ng coach nya kung ano ang dapat gawin..
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2008, 04:59:58 PM »

correct, he needs power shot to beat rafa's power looping forehand and roger's great backhand, but im sure novak has gameplan before game start, i mean napag aralan na nila ng coach nya kung ano ang dapat gawin..

I also belive before playing for a match or tournament, they should have GAME PLAN... kung baga bago sumalang sa gera merun armas or sandata para handa.... 
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2008, 11:17:18 PM »

I'm not sure if these tips from Tom Perrotta really works(maybe case to case baka pede), medyo contradicting kasi mga tips nya. He mentioned something about percentage play such as placement, spin and depth and not power.

Tennis is not all about power. Depth, for example, prevents your opponent from coming forward and taking the initiative. Even good players have difficulty winning if they never see a short ball. Accurate placement can keep your opponent off balance if you can keep him/her running. Variety also helps because it keeps your opponent guessing, and denies him/her rhythm. 

The best example of all of this is Henin. She was never as powerful as the likes of the Williams sisters or Sharapova. But she could defeat all of them. Go figure.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2008, 04:43:52 PM »

I'm not sure if these tips from Tom Perrotta really works(maybe case to case baka pede), medyo contradicting kasi mga tips nya. He mentioned something about percentage play such as placement, spin and depth and not power.

Tennis is not all about power. Depth, for example, prevents your opponent from coming forward and taking the initiative. Even good players have difficulty winning if they never see a short ball. Accurate placement can keep your opponent off balance if you can keep him/her running. Variety also helps because it keeps your opponent guessing, and denies him/her rhythm. 

The best example of all of this is Henin. She was never as powerful as the likes of the Williams sisters or Sharapova. But she could defeat all of them. Go figure.

Makinao, Yes ofcourse... I noted that, this is just case to case....
But the point of discussion here was with the two Djokovic and Nadal.
If you saw how Djokovic played Nadal, he employed power...... Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 05:37:41 PM »

They use, well, what we called it "CONTROLLED POWER"
That's what's tennis these days, specially what the Top players are doin'  Wink
They have mastered the 5 ball controls, which are:

Height
Direction
Distance
Speed and
Spin

They do it effectively, Perfect? well, almost  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 07:03:25 PM »

ang tagal na nito ah binuhay nyo ulit? sabagay rafa and novak are the hotest player in town, as of the moment, kahit nandyan pa si king roger, di pa sya bumababa sa trono nya may nakaabang na at dalawa pa, hehehe... go go go..Nole.....
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2008, 01:53:06 AM »

I'm not sure if these tips from Tom Perrotta really works(maybe case to case baka pede), medyo contradicting kasi mga tips nya. He mentioned something about percentage play such as placement, spin and depth and not power.

Tennis is not all about power. Depth, for example, prevents your opponent from coming forward and taking the initiative. Even good players have difficulty winning if they never see a short ball. Accurate placement can keep your opponent off balance if you can keep him/her running. Variety also helps because it keeps your opponent guessing, and denies him/her rhythm. 

The best example of all of this is Henin. She was never as powerful as the likes of the Williams sisters or Sharapova. But she could defeat all of them. Go figure.

Makinao, Yes ofcourse... I noted that, this is just case to case....
But the point of discussion here was with the two Djokovic and Nadal.
If you saw how Djokovic played Nadal, he employed power...... Grin Grin Grin Grin




I don't  think this is about Nadal or Novak, or about employing power.. They were just an example to illustrate the point of the article which is about how to beat a top player.   The article says "Tennis is not all about power.." Nadal, Novak and Roger were secondary. 

To beat a top player is about strategy, that's the main point of the article.
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2009, 10:52:51 PM »

Wow! Those tips really helped me...
may player sa club na pnpnthan q...for 2 consecutive days, natlo nia aq 6-0...
Then today niyaya niya ulet aq ng match... then inisip q ung ggwin q..inalala q ung topic na 2, including ung topic na 'Intimidating an Opponent'...I guess it worked! Na initimidate nga cia.... i returned all the balls na bnbgay nia sken...

in the end, although i lost the match the result is improving! 6-4 the final score!
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2009, 10:49:47 AM »

good for you!!! sarap talaga dito noh hehehe!!!
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2009, 10:34:36 PM »

good for you!!! sarap talaga dito noh hehehe!!!

uu nga charap noh!
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