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« on: December 21, 2009, 01:21:18 AM » |
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i have a strong first serve, but i can get it in a few times, my avg in 1st serve is 40%, and my second serve, which i use kick/topspin, has a good spin on the ball, but still tends to go long. help please! i need to improve my serves.
i remembered playing against a novice and almost lost because of double faults. he was up 5-2. i catched up to make it 7-5
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 03:26:20 PM » |
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I posted this before in Service Problems thread. Hope this helps. This is an article written by Vic Bradden. He outlines the common problems of faulty serving and the suggested cure for each. Enjoy!!!! Problem: Serve is too long Cure: Toss the ball a little farther in front of your body. It helps to think "forward" as you toss and "upward and out" as you hit. Problem: Completely uncoordinated Cure: Get the rhythm back into your serve by counting "1-2-3-4" like a dance instructor as you swing. Take it easy and don't rush your serve. Problem:Serve goes into the net Cure:Keep your eyes and chin up. Fasten your eyes on the ball at all times. Keeping your chin up will prevent a slouching posture that will pull down your hitting harm and the ball Problem: Lost confidence Cure: Have a friend verify your errors by charting your serves. Find the precise area of error and then go away and practice hitting targets to rebuild your confidence. Problem: Getting angry/frustrated as your serve worsens Cure: Focus your attention more closely on the ball. Try to transfer your emotions to the ball -that's the your only opponent in the serve (or better yet think of something that really annoys you very much  ).
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 03:50:19 PM » |
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Focus & Confidence.
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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 04:05:52 PM » |
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there is no better training for TENNIS!!! than PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, 
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 04:06:00 PM » |
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practice to gain confidence. ayan ang natutunan ko. don't fear double faulting. pag nababadtrip partner mo sayo (doubles) pakyuhan mo ng matindi  . more spin to the 2nd serve. trust the spin. trust your serve. ayan din natutunan ko kay idol sir lito. pero gang ngayon dami ko pa rin double faults. pero wala ako pake. si goran ivanisevic nga 40 aces 30 double faults e. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 04:14:11 PM » |
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before serving, imagine your serve going in..then fire!
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 07:12:09 PM » |
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there is no better training for TENNIS!!! than PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE,  agree! practice! practice! practice! ang kagandahan pa nito, you can practice your serve na mag-isa. and to add fun into it, maglagay ka ng patatamaan. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 08:28:36 PM » |
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practice to gain confidence. ayan ang natutunan ko. don't fear double faulting. pag nababadtrip partner mo sayo (doubles) pakyuhan mo ng matindi  . more spin to the 2nd serve. trust the spin. trust your serve. ayan din natutunan ko kay idol sir lito. pero gang ngayon dami ko pa rin double faults. pero wala ako pake. si goran ivanisevic nga 40 aces 30 double faults e.  lol that made my day 
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 10:25:25 PM » |
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naku ha kong tip kay mikki yan hahah yung more spin on the second serve. tapos i talked to a former ncaa div 1 player he said theoretically you should hit harder on the second serve because you want to generate more spin. ngayon i'm practicing my kick ass spin serve that goes wide when serving on a deuce court and goes towards the body when serving on the ad court hanep hehe. slow but effective.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2009, 10:27:14 PM » |
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i agree with fabs at kung kanino nya po nakuha ung advise. Mabuhay to all And ADVANCE HAPPY CHRISTMAS!
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2009, 10:33:31 PM » |
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naku ha kong tip kay mikki yan hahah yung more spin on the second serve. tapos i talked to a former ncaa div 1 player he said theoretically you should hit harder on the second serve because you want to generate more spin. ngayon i'm practicing my kick ass spin serve that goes wide when serving on a deuce court and goes towards the body when serving on the ad court hanep hehe. slow but effective.
yan ba yung kasama ng pinsan mo fabs?US NCAA Div 1 player?mahusay yang player na sinasabi ni Fabs, nakita ko na maglaro yan sa 56. matindi talaga yung second serve nyan.. wala ako ma advice sa serve kasi tadtad din ako double fault.  konting prayers kay BRO bago mag toss for the second serve,hehehhee.
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2009, 10:34:38 PM » |
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2009, 10:35:52 PM » |
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oo tumpak reboj, hehe  oo pre pero huling kita ko sa laro niya eh medyo naging erratic kasi puro aral na sa med school hehe.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2009, 04:13:20 AM » |
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make your 1st serve, your second serve..just keep it in, if you're leading, take the chance to hit a flat serve..depends on your style of play, but for me, keeping the ball in, angled, and towards the opponents' weakness is more effective than a powerful flat serve with a low percentage of going in
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2009, 02:08:50 PM » |
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make your 1st serve, your second serve..just keep it in, if you're leading, take the chance to hit a flat serve..depends on your style of play, but for me, keeping the ball in, angled, and towards the opponents' weakness is more effective than a powerful flat serve with a low percentage of going in
naks straight english to pards, talagang call boy ka na. pero mga tennista take it from the expert (daryl).
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2009, 03:01:20 PM » |
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correct kyo sirs... PRACTICE a lot! tip ng instructor sa kin... Perfect your second serve! 
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2009, 03:34:47 PM » |
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make your 1st serve, your second serve..just keep it in, if you're leading, take the chance to hit a flat serve..depends on your style of play, but for me, keeping the ball in, angled, and towards the opponents' weakness is more effective than a powerful flat serve with a low percentage of going in
naks straight english to pards, talagang call boy ka na. pero mga tennista take it from the expert (daryl). mas maganda kung may ... "You know." hehehe
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2009, 04:49:31 PM » |
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make your 1st serve, your second serve..just keep it in, if you're leading, take the chance to hit a flat serve..depends on your style of play, but for me, keeping the ball in, angled, and towards the opponents' weakness is more effective than a powerful flat serve with a low percentage of going in
naks straight english to pards, talagang call boy ka na. pero mga tennista take it from the expert (daryl). mas maganda kung may ... "You know." hehehe  may karanasan to si ruud sa practice nya ng kick serve. sumobra ata liyad. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2009, 04:52:55 PM » |
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make your 1st serve, your second serve..just keep it in, if you're leading, take the chance to hit a flat serve..depends on your style of play, but for me, keeping the ball in, angled, and towards the opponents' weakness is more effective than a powerful flat serve with a low percentage of going in
naks straight english to pards, talagang call boy ka na. pero mga tennista take it from the expert (daryl). mas maganda kung may ... "You know." hehehe  may karanasan to si ruud sa practice nya ng kick serve. sumobra ata liyad.  ikaw miks ha! dinadale mo ako! ... liyad na d naka-taas kamay??? hahahaha!!
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2009, 04:54:00 PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2009, 04:58:55 PM » |
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yan ang sinasabi ko fabs! ilad-lad mo na daw! miks, dighay ung sa yo! ... ung kay fabs ... dig-low! hahahaha! hmmmm ... what do you think miks? organiza ka ng lad-ladan party! o d ba? its better to come out in the open and make a statement! hahahaha! or forever be silenced and leave your piece! sabi nga ni tyra banks ... "FIERCE!!"  oh... miks? organize mo na!???
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2009, 05:52:37 PM » |
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make your 1st serve, your second serve..just keep it in, if you're leading, take the chance to hit a flat serve..depends on your style of play, but for me, keeping the ball in, angled, and towards the opponents' weakness is more effective than a powerful flat serve with a low percentage of going in
naks straight english to pards, talagang call boy ka na. pero mga tennista take it from the expert (daryl). mas maganda kung may ... "You know." hehehe  may karanasan to si ruud sa practice nya ng kick serve. sumobra ata liyad.  hahahaahhaha
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2009, 10:13:38 PM » |
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di ba pwedeng sa ym nlng kau mg usap??? -.-
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2009, 10:40:47 PM » |
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di ba pwedeng sa ym nlng kau mg usap??? -.-
para samin ba ito lahat? talagang practice ng practice dapat para almost perfect na second serve mo. agree ako kay daryl kasi he knows what he is talking about. pati dati feel ko kailangan malakas yung serve pero minsan nga lang pumapasok ngayon natutunan ko na hinaan ng onti pero placement naman ang kapalit kahit mahina service ko pagnaglalaro ako ngayon dami kong ace hahaha, feeling ako eh. 
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« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2009, 01:29:42 PM » |
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di ba pwedeng sa ym nlng kau mg usap??? -.-
para samin ba ito lahat? Sa tingin ko, reminder ito sa ating lahat na posters na di sinasadya e off-topic ang post. At ang off-shoot nyan e may magre-reply sa OT post so nawawala minsan tayo sa topic. Kagaya ng post kong ito na response sa tanong mo which is in no way related to lessening double faults. And yes, IMO, para sa atin lahat itong reminder na ito to keep our posts ON topic. Peace everyone! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! Now, back to regular programming: how to lessen double faults
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2010, 02:47:11 AM » |
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Tama! Practice lang ng practice. Dagdag ko lang. Kung mag-papractice, mag-practice ng tamang mechanics. Bali wala ang practice kung mali ang mechanics. Mas maigi rin kung merong nagtuturo para masabi sa 'yo kung ano ang mali sa stroke mo. Minsan kahit na anu pang libro ang basahin o video na panoorin, akala mo tama na ang ginagawa mo. Malalaman mo lang ang mali mo kung makikita mo ang sarili mo sa salamin o may mag-video sa 'yo. Kung hindi, kailangan mo ng magsasabi sa 'yo.
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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2010, 05:25:41 AM » |
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Learn to serve underhanded. It will piss your opponents enough to make them commit unforced errors.
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« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2010, 08:21:19 AM » |
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I had the same problem before - literally, puro double faults talaga kaya galit na galit ang tatay ko sa inis. hehe.  but anyway, you just have to keep practicing man. Put some cannisters around the service box to serve as your targets. kahit after a long rally, practice ka lang ng serve mga 1 hour. do this at least 3x a week and you'll see a big difference. Lastly, as a confidence builder, try to dribble the ball at least 5-7x (parang si Djokovic) it will get you into a certain rhythm before tossing the ball. Remember, your goal is to simply get the ball into the other side of the court - so no need to panic and hit hard - just keep it simple and make sure to drop the ball into the correct service box. pag may accuracy ka na, yan, diyan ka na magsimula mag serve with full power! good luck man!
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2010, 10:57:50 AM » |
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relax! don't rush your serve. always try to make make a deep breath and have a target. also, don't entertain negative outcome!
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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2010, 11:13:05 AM » |
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Learn to serve underhanded. It will piss your opponents enough to make them commit unforced errors.
nung nagka wrist injury ako namaster ko tong serve na to kasi di ko mapigil sarili ko gusto magtennis. Hehe. Ayun gumaling yung pain. 
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« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2010, 03:20:39 PM » |
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this worked for me pa sablay ung service usually tinataasan ko ung toss ko.. tapos wag mo agad habulin ung flight ng bola atleast a fraction of a second after you hit the ball nakatingala ka pa din pra nde bumaba yung balikat and arms mo...
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« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2010, 04:59:06 PM » |
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relax! don't rush your serve. always try to make make a deep breath and have a target. also, don't entertain negative outcome!
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2010, 12:02:08 AM » |
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well learn a slice serve in second serve kahit mahina basta pasok yun ang pinag aralan ko talaga para di naman kahiya hiya na parang bading serve ang 2nd serve ko hahahah
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2010, 12:36:56 PM » |
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In my case naman, I can't stop hitting my second serves hard. D q lng alam, kasi everytime na i play it safe, dun pa ako nag do2uble fault. 
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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2010, 01:07:44 PM » |
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good for you kung malakas hahah ako naman pag play safe nasablay din kasi kabado hahaha
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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2010, 03:15:34 PM » |
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For the second serve, just put the ball in.
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2010, 01:06:54 AM » |
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ako, i tend to fault on my 2nd serve kpag matagal yung interval after my first serve, e.g. mabagal magpulot ng bola yung ballboy.. nawawala yung rythm.. 
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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2010, 09:52:30 AM » |
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ako, i tend to fault on my 2nd serve kpag matagal yung interval after my first serve, e.g. mabagal magpulot ng bola yung ballboy.. nawawala yung rythm..  nasisi pa ang ball boy hahahah 
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« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2010, 10:45:33 AM » |
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Try to relax. Inhale, exhale, toss the ball at your convenience then whip it with lesser power. 
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« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2010, 02:59:46 PM » |
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ako, i tend to fault on my 2nd serve kpag matagal yung interval after my first serve, e.g. mabagal magpulot ng bola yung ballboy.. nawawala yung rythm..  nasisi pa ang ball boy hahahah  pwera biro pare..  kaya tip yan sa mga mkakalaban ko.. do some delaying tactics.. hahaha
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« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2010, 07:31:00 PM » |
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Aq personally though i don't have dis kind of a problem in terms of double faults, ang nagi2ng problem ko nman is the return of my opponent. Medyo less power kasi yung 2nd serve ko so I make sure to level up my 1st serve percentage para ako nagdi2ctate ng game as much as possible. But it depends on my opponent if he can take advantage of my 2nd serve. Cguro tip ko sa mga players na may matinding problem sa double fault, try to practice na lng muna a 2nd serve w/ more control and spin on it  Para hinde ma atake yung 2nd serve mo, try to place it sa backhand niya, or palabas na ng court yung bounce ng bola.
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« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2010, 07:46:02 PM » |
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Aq personally though i don't have dis kind of a problem in terms of double faults, ang nagi2ng problem ko nman is the return of my opponent. Medyo less power kasi yung 2nd serve ko so I make sure to level up my 1st serve percentage para ako nagdi2ctate ng game as much as possible. But it depends on my opponent if he can take advantage of my 2nd serve. Cguro tip ko sa mga players na may matinding problem sa double fault, try to practice na lng muna a 2nd serve w/ more control and spin on it  Para hinde ma atake yung 2nd serve mo, try to place it sa backhand niya, or palabas na ng court yung bounce ng bola. Yup thanks for d advice sir. Yun nga po ginagwa ko I make sure na well placed yung 2nd serve ko, as much as possible sa side kung saan hindi nkapwesto yung opponent para more effort for him to return = higher percentage of unforced error 
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« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2010, 01:17:06 AM » |
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kick serve sa backhand or body. or pwede ding mas makulit kung slice serve sa forehand side tapos kakainin sya ng bola sagitna.  daling sabihin pero hirap gawin. kung magawa man YEHEY! sarap sa feeling.
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« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2010, 12:18:11 PM » |
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2010, 01:54:58 PM » |
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ako naman drop serve hahahah
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« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2010, 03:00:07 PM » |
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A good toss is essential if you want to improve your delivery, but think of it as "ball release" not "ball toss." When you begin your toss, hold the ball gently. Your arm and fingers should be relaxed and about waist-high. Slowly drop your arm below your waist with the palm slightly turned up, then move it slowly and steadily upward. Release the ball when your arm is fully extended and can't go up any higher.
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