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« on: August 19, 2009, 11:11:45 AM »

It sounds weird but sometimes it happens and it's frustrating. For competitive players, losing is something that affects a lot, especially if he lost against a weak player.

Losing to a weak player is yet another lesson to be learned so try to analyze your game and do better next time. Learning to accept your loss would be a good start.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 11:01:25 PM »

thanks for sharing kowch bob!
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 11:51:56 PM »

thanks for sharing kowch bob!

my pleasure  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 10:53:13 AM »

hehe. sakin di applicable to. nasa level pa lang ako ng improvement ng shots kaya di pa ako competetive kaya kung matatalo man ako ng mas mababa level sakin di na nakakapagtaka din yun. wala pa akong pride na pinanghahawakan. i just play for improving not "winning".

sa mga competetive players lang siguro o sa ibang players na may gustong patunayan sa sarili cguro masakit yan.  laugh
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2009, 12:41:24 AM »

hehe. sakin di applicable to. nasa level pa lang ako ng improvement ng shots kaya di pa ako competetive kaya kung matatalo man ako ng mas mababa level sakin di na nakakapagtaka din yun. wala pa akong pride na pinanghahawakan. i just play for improving not "winning".

sa mga competetive players lang siguro o sa ibang players na may gustong patunayan sa sarili cguro masakit yan.  laugh

Oh yeah!! same as me Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2009, 01:28:24 PM »

@Kowch Bob

If you don't mind, I would like to break down your second paragraph into three (3) R's.  These are Release, Review and RestartWink

Release - yup the loss to a weak player definitely is frustrating and causes a sting.  Give it a couple of days and just get over it

Review - Once you accepted it, go over the mistakes and errors you committed during the game.  Did I toss the ball high enough?, Did I make a complete follow through with my swing?, Did I execute my forehand or backhand properly?

Restart - Finally, make the necessary adjustments so that you won't commit these during your next match.

I think this would also go into the Tennis Quick Tips thread.  Whatcha think edreams  Grin ?

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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2009, 12:28:00 AM »

@Kowch Bob

If you don't mind, I would like to break down your second paragraph into three (3) R's.  These are Release, Review and RestartWink

Release - yup the loss to a weak player definitely is frustrating and causes a sting.  Give it a couple of days and just get over it

Review - Once you accepted it, go over the mistakes and errors you committed during the game.  Did I toss the ball high enough?, Did I make a complete follow through with my swing?, Did I execute my forehand or backhand properly?

Restart - Finally, make the necessary adjustments so that you won't commit these during your next match.

I think this would also go into the Tennis Quick Tips thread.  Whatcha think edreams  Grin ?

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Very nice input skywalker..  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2009, 12:49:03 PM »

@Kowch Bob

Thanks a lot and mabuhay ka!!! Grin

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2009, 04:11:17 PM »

sometimes too, players miscalculate their opponents. one might think that the other player is weak or is weaker than them.

then they get surprised or disappointed when they lose against them.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2009, 05:47:32 PM »

you dont lose against a weak player.if you lose, you're the weak one.even if it's only for the day, you still lost.get over it and win the next one.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2009, 06:37:51 PM »

you dont lose against a weak player.if you lose, you're the weak one.even if it's only for the day, you still lost.get over it and win the next one.

I agree!  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2009, 08:51:31 PM »

you dont lose against a weak player.if you lose, you're the weak one.even if it's only for the day, you still lost.get over it and win the next one.

I agree!  Smiley

 laugh e pano kung head to head nyo overall e kunwari ikaw 50 - 2 ? still weak ka parin sa kanya? cguro that day ikaw ang weak.

lets say santoro-safin h2h is 7-2. means ba na mas magaling si santoro kay safin?  laugh

pero pwede ding pareho kayong maganda laro pero mas maganda lang laro ng opponent mo that day. or pwede ding off day mo kaya natalo ka. basta for sure sa araw lang na yun mas magaling yung opponent mo.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2009, 08:56:42 PM »

minsan iniisip ko scoring ng tennis. may pagka unfair. lets say kahit na mas marami kang games na pinanalo e matatalo ka parin... how? dahil rules by set ang bilang. lets say 6-0 6-7 7-6. hahahaha! di ba? binetlog na nga sa 1st set at maraming games di hamak mas marami kang pinanalo natalo ka pa sa huli.  laugh
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2009, 09:31:25 PM »

sometimes when i play a real strong/good player - i often try to slug it out with him. but because he is really strong and has better/deeper shots than me, i always lose the point.

but when don't try too hard, i just return the ball to his court with no power, often with high floating shots - the result is reversed! - i start winning the points - he is unable to return my shots with power, instead his returns are just as weak as mine!

when i sense this, i hit the power button and thus win the point!

maybe, it is this scenario where my opponent thinks that he got beaten by a weaker player.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2009, 01:21:47 PM »

@Kowch Bob

If you don't mind, I would like to break down your second paragraph into three (3) R's.  These are Release, Review and RestartWink

Release - yup the loss to a weak player definitely is frustrating and causes a sting.  Give it a couple of days and just get over it

Review - Once you accepted it, go over the mistakes and errors you committed during the game.  Did I toss the ball high enough?, Did I make a complete follow through with my swing?, Did I execute my forehand or backhand properly?

Restart - Finally, make the necessary adjustments so that you won't commit these during your next match.

I think this would also go into the Tennis Quick Tips thread.  Whatcha think edreams  Grin ?

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thnx for the breakdown sir skywalker  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2009, 01:24:52 PM »

minsan iniisip ko scoring ng tennis. may pagka unfair. lets say kahit na mas marami kang games na pinanalo e matatalo ka parin... how? dahil rules by set ang bilang. lets say 6-0 6-7 7-6. hahahaha! di ba? binetlog na nga sa 1st set at maraming games di hamak mas marami kang pinanalo natalo ka pa sa huli.  laugh

ayos to ah,  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2009, 07:55:36 PM »

minsan iniisip ko scoring ng tennis. may pagka unfair. lets say kahit na mas marami kang games na pinanalo e matatalo ka parin... how? dahil rules by set ang bilang. lets say 6-0 6-7 7-6. hahahaha! di ba? binetlog na nga sa 1st set at maraming games di hamak mas marami kang pinanalo natalo ka pa sa huli.  laugh

ayos to ah,  Grin Grin Grin

I think the score should be 6-0 6-7 6-7. Kudos!
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2009, 09:16:49 PM »

minsan iniisip ko scoring ng tennis. may pagka unfair. lets say kahit na mas marami kang games na pinanalo e matatalo ka parin... how? dahil rules by set ang bilang. lets say 6-0 6-7 7-6. hahahaha! di ba? binetlog na nga sa 1st set at maraming games di hamak mas marami kang pinanalo natalo ka pa sa huli.  laugh

ayos to ah,  Grin Grin Grin

I think the score should be 6-0 6-7 6-7. Kudos!

oo tama sir nagkabaliktad. haha! tnx tnx... tama naman d b? tambak mo sa wins ng games tapos talo pa. panong???!!! hahaha!
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2009, 09:56:45 PM »

puede ring eto yun time na Lucky is better than good. Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2009, 10:04:53 PM »

@jov

No problem sir.  Cheers!! Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2009, 11:23:08 AM »

minsan iniisip ko scoring ng tennis. may pagka unfair. lets say kahit na mas marami kang games na pinanalo e matatalo ka parin... how? dahil rules by set ang bilang. lets say 6-0 6-7 7-6. hahahaha! di ba? binetlog na nga sa 1st set at maraming games di hamak mas marami kang pinanalo natalo ka pa sa huli.  laugh

ayos to ah,  Grin Grin Grin

I think the score should be 6-0 6-7 6-7. Kudos!

oo tama sir nagkabaliktad. haha! tnx tnx... tama naman d b? tambak mo sa wins ng games tapos talo pa. panong???!!! hahaha!

Oo nga eh, biruin mo 18 games ang naipanalo against 14 games tapos talo? Hahaha! Nakakalungkot talaga isipin. Kudos! 
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2009, 12:53:53 PM »

minsan iniisip ko scoring ng tennis. may pagka unfair. lets say kahit na mas marami kang games na pinanalo e matatalo ka parin... how? dahil rules by set ang bilang. lets say 6-0 6-7 7-6. hahahaha! di ba? binetlog na nga sa 1st set at maraming games di hamak mas marami kang pinanalo natalo ka pa sa huli.  laugh

ayos to ah,  Grin Grin Grin

I think the score should be 6-0 6-7 6-7. Kudos!

oo tama sir nagkabaliktad. haha! tnx tnx... tama naman d b? tambak mo sa wins ng games tapos talo pa. panong???!!! hahaha!

Oo nga eh, biruin mo 18 games ang naipanalo against 14 games tapos talo? Hahaha! Nakakalungkot talaga isipin. Kudos! 

For individual competitions, players win matches according to points, sets, games, techniques, speed, endurance, luck, mental toughness among so many factors that are considered. Especially in inter/national level.  Wink Wink Wink
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« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2009, 01:06:50 PM »

minsan iniisip ko scoring ng tennis. may pagka unfair. lets say kahit na mas marami kang games na pinanalo e matatalo ka parin... how? dahil rules by set ang bilang. lets say 6-0 6-7 7-6. hahahaha! di ba? binetlog na nga sa 1st set at maraming games di hamak mas marami kang pinanalo natalo ka pa sa huli.  laugh

ayos to ah,  Grin Grin Grin

I think the score should be 6-0 6-7 6-7. Kudos!

oo tama sir nagkabaliktad. haha! tnx tnx... tama naman d b? tambak mo sa wins ng games tapos talo pa. panong???!!! hahaha!

Oo nga eh, biruin mo 18 games ang naipanalo against 14 games tapos talo? Hahaha! Nakakalungkot talaga isipin. Kudos! 

Malamang hindi lang sa number of games won pero malamang pati number of points won e mas maraming nakuha ang losing player. Pero, lumalabas, the other player wins the more important points thereby winning the match eventually. Pero ganyan ang tennis e. Hindi padamihan ng points won.
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« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2009, 02:03:42 PM »

There are matches though that the rule says how to win a match.

Example:

1-7 tie-breaker = you win by points
1-8 games = you win by games
2/3 sets = you win by sets

Reading between the lines, numbers sets rules for the winner. How to achieve it is another part of the story Wink
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2009, 03:00:40 PM »

feeling ko lang mas maganda yung scoring dati yung by games ata yun. nung panahong 1968. naririnig ko laban ni rosewall at laver... laver 20 games blah blah... haha! astig! parang badminton or volleyball ata system nun.
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2009, 02:09:45 AM »

feeling ko lang mas maganda yung scoring dati yung by games ata yun. nung panahong 1968. naririnig ko laban ni rosewall at laver... laver 20 games blah blah... haha! astig! parang badminton or volleyball ata system nun.

I think it's 20 something sa 5th set if I'm not mistaken
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2009, 04:53:23 PM »

Posible pa din ang ganyang score sa final set ng Grand Slams kasi pagdating sa final set (men's 5th set/women's 3rd set ) e no-tie-break set na. except US Open yata na tie-break pa din pagdating ng 6-all sa final set.

Last Wimbledon e 16-14 ang score sa decisive set ng Finals ni Roddick vs Federer. it could have gone forever kaso na-break ang roddick serve on the 29th game of the final set.
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2009, 06:37:25 PM »

Posible pa din ang ganyang score sa final set ng Grand Slams kasi pagdating sa final set (men's 5th set/women's 3rd set ) e no-tie-break set na. except US Open yata na tie-break pa din pagdating ng 6-all sa final set.

Last Wimbledon e 16-14 ang score sa decisive set ng Finals ni Roddick vs Federer. it could have gone forever kaso na-break ang roddick serve on the 29th game of the final set.
OT to FYI lng: panuod nyo na b Tie break ni Federer Safin ng 2004 Masters? 21/19 ata score.
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« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2009, 03:19:37 PM »

Posible pa din ang ganyang score sa final set ng Grand Slams kasi pagdating sa final set (men's 5th set/women's 3rd set ) e no-tie-break set na. except US Open yata na tie-break pa din pagdating ng 6-all sa final set.

Last Wimbledon e 16-14 ang score sa decisive set ng Finals ni Roddick vs Federer. it could have gone forever kaso na-break ang roddick serve on the 29th game of the final set.

sina ivanisevic vs krajicek wimbledon semis 1998 umabot 5th set sa 15-13. perfect serving storm.
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2009, 12:40:55 AM »

Posible pa din ang ganyang score sa final set ng Grand Slams kasi pagdating sa final set (men's 5th set/women's 3rd set ) e no-tie-break set na. except US Open yata na tie-break pa din pagdating ng 6-all sa final set.

Last Wimbledon e 16-14 ang score sa decisive set ng Finals ni Roddick vs Federer. it could have gone forever kaso na-break ang roddick serve on the 29th game of the final set.

sina ivanisevic vs krajicek wimbledon semis 1998 umabot 5th set sa 15-13. perfect serving storm.

The semi-final Davies cup (Czech Republic vs. Croatia) match on Sept 18, 2009 between Radeck Stephanek & Ivo Karlovic was an epic. Lasted almost 6 hours:
6-7(5)
7-6(5)
7-6(6)
6-7(2)
16-14

It was a battle between a heavy server (Karlovic) and a good returner with excellent groundstrokes (Stephanek)

Karlovic served 78 aces in the match!
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2009, 07:04:26 AM »

It sounds weird but sometimes it happens and it's frustrating. For competitive players, losing is something that affects a lot, especially if he lost against a weak player.

Losing to a weak player is yet another lesson to be learned so try to analyze your game and do better next time. Learning to accept your loss would be a good start.


I think in general, if you lose to a "weaker" player, then you must be the weaker player.

How can someone consider himself a better player if you loses at the end of the match? What's the use of a record 78 aces, if a good returner slammed you in the end? what's the use 50 winners if you have 80 errors? Sometimes, a lot of players underestimate the "weaker players daw" and I think this is one of the reasons why "stronger players daw" lose in match.

I think it also boils down to attitude, mental toughness and skills to perform better on the court and if you lose, RELEASE, REVIEW and RESTART should be a great help in evaluating your game to perform better next time.

Note: Im putting "daw",at the end because "weaker and stronger" terms are relative. and I think in general people has preferred power hitters over other types of players. (personal opinion ko lang po ito)

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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2010, 08:38:32 PM »

yea i lost against a weak player days ago, 4-6. improved my game plan and won 6-0 Cheesy
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2010, 09:01:45 AM »

Nangyayari talaga yan.  Merong mga pagkakataon na nananalo ang mas mahinang kalaban.  Ang tawag diyan "Upset".   Wink
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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2010, 10:35:10 AM »

Tama...and there are many possible reasons for any given "upset"...

- Off day ang stronger
- On day ang weaker
- Bad match ups (weaker's style don't match up well with yours, how else do we explain Nadal and Federer's head to head)
- Environmental conditions not favorable to you, favorable to the weaker
- The planets are in the wrong alignment.
- Kala mo lang stronger ka. Cheesy
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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2010, 08:24:01 PM »

nako sakin lang i dont want to call a player a weak player than me mas maganda siguro na mas better ka lang sa kanya pero calling someone weak for a gentleman's sport maski competetive pa yan e pangit.
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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2010, 09:04:34 PM »

parang basketboll din yan kasi. 'kala ng marami ung walang porma, tagilid ang dribol, hagis ang shat pero pag tumalon parang may spring ang sapatos at walang sablay pag naglong shot!

ang totoo nyan pag tinalo ka! ikaw ang weaker player!
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« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2010, 12:02:35 AM »

na uso na kasi ang "KANTSAW" ng ibang tao eh..,dun lang lumalala eh..,kaya pag tinalo ka ng lower seo ayun maapektuhan ka talaga..,
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« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2010, 02:23:21 AM »

nako sakin lang i dont want to call a player a weak player than me mas maganda siguro na mas better ka lang sa kanya pero calling someone weak for a gentleman's sport maski competetive pa yan e pangit.

agree ako dyan.  minsan obvious naman na kaya hindi na kailangan sabihin.  palagay mo head to head ni player A kay player B ay 10-0.  obvious na weaker player si player B.  pero huwag kalimutan na si player B ay nagsusumikap para gumaling.  maaring dumating ang panahon na makatsamba siya kay player A.
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