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[samuraijack]

tenmirage: nakakita ka na ba ng sunken court,ung
medyo nakalubog?
parang maganda ang style ng sunken court,
siguro mga 2 to 2 1/2 feet deep below ung pinaka
surface. tapos ung perimeter ng both sides cementado at
meron dalawang steps para makaupo ung mga tao.

ung parehong back sides kung saan ung mga nagseserve
yun lang ang meron fence.

maganda ang sunken kasi protected sa wind ung court mismo.and aesthetically maganda siya. yung mga main courts sa mga venues ng well known tennis tournaments ay parang sunken ang design.

 hindi ba affected ng wind pag sunken ang court?  nakikita ko kasi sa australian open  sunken ang courts ,pag humangin grabe effect sa bola!

di naman effected masyado ung court sa wind,unless na fifty mph ung hangin.
kahit flat o sunken effectado silang pareho sa wind. kaya lang ung
sunken meron upuan sa parehong gilid. tapos wala ng fence sa both sides,
sa likod na lang. tapos ung wind syempre, minimize na dahil nga medyo
nakalubog. ung ao kaci siguro malapit sa dagat or desert dun kaya siguro masyado
mahangin. si tenmirage alam siguro, dahil taga aussie cya.

[renald]

Please text to 0922-8366471 your cell no, and I will ask my friend who specializes on tennis and badminton courts to contact you.

[Darkwing]

tenmirage: nakakita ka na ba ng sunken court,ung
medyo nakalubog?
parang maganda ang style ng sunken court,
siguro mga 2 to 2 1/2 feet deep below ung pinaka
surface. tapos ung perimeter ng both sides cementado at
meron dalawang steps para makaupo ung mga tao.

ung parehong back sides kung saan ung mga nagseserve
yun lang ang meron fence.

maganda ang sunken kasi protected sa wind ung court mismo.and aesthetically maganda siya. yung mga main courts sa mga venues ng well known tennis tournaments ay parang sunken ang design.

maganda at protected sa wind ung sunken court,kaci ung anak ko nuon nakipagtournament
sa san diego, duon ko nakita ung mga sunken courts. makakaupo ka mismo
dun sa gilid ng court side kahit walang bench or chair. kaci meron silang
mga three steps along the sides. ung mga main courts
sa mga well known tennis tournaments,di sila sunken courts. visual effect
lang ung nakikita natin, dahil ung gilid ng court meron parang plywood cover
or green curtain cover about three feet high all around kaya mukha silang sunken.

kung sakali ikaw palang sigurong meron sunken court sa buong pilipinas.
pag nakita nila un sigurado gagaya din sila sa iyo.

I don't much about building tennis courts but just like any structure I believe that the design is influenced by the topography of the land. On a rolling hill or a slightly mountainous region sunken courts are predominant as it follows the contour of the land but on areas which are naturally flat building a sunken court will result in design problems such as drainage and will cost more to correct this. Yes we can make a sunken court anywhere but I believe the additional cost to make this will be put to better use in back stops, berms etc.

In architecture design follows function.

[samuraijack]

I don't much about building tennis courts but just like any structure I believe that the design is influenced by the topography of the land.

 

ung sunken desing,di naman exactly influenced lang duon sa topography.
pede naman kacing maging sunken kahit level yung ground. ideal ang sunken
sa mga tennis clubs or academies na palaging nagpapatournament.

kaci ung sunken ay nagseserve cya na parang mini grand stand, dahil meron
cyang built in steps sa both sides na pedeng gawin benches para sa mga audiences.

pede rin sa mga private owners and sunken,depende kung anong gusto ng
nagpapagawa at sa budget. pero sana magkaroon tayo din sa pilipinas kahit
isa lang. ung mga nakita kong sunken ay nasa flat ground cila,hindi sa uneven
land or topography. tapos ung bola nag eecho ung sound,ang sarap pakingan,
parang ung palu mo napakalakas.

On a rolling hill or a slightly mountainous region sunken courts are predominant as it follows the contour of the land but on areas which are naturally flat building a sunken court will result in design problems such as drainage and will cost more to correct this. Yes we can make a sunken court anywhere but I believe the additional cost to make this will be put to better use in back stops, berms etc.

yung drainage madali din un,basta lagyan lang ng dalawang drainage sa both ends.
dina man exactly dapat lalabas ung tubig mula sa water collecting reservoir.

[Darkwing]

ung sunken desing,di naman exactly influenced lang duon sa topography.
pede naman kacing maging sunken kahit level yung ground. ideal ang sunken
sa mga tennis clubs or academies na palaging nagpapatournament.

kaci ung sunken ay nagseserve cya na parang mini grand stand, dahil meron
cyang built in steps sa both sides na pedeng gawin benches para sa mga audiences.

pede rin sa mga private owners and sunken,depende kung anong gusto ng
nagpapagawa at sa budget. pero sana magkaroon tayo din sa pilipinas kahit
isa lang. ung mga nakita kong sunken ay nasa flat ground cila,hindi sa uneven
land or topography. tapos ung bola nag eecho ung sound,ang sarap pakingan,
parang ung palu mo napakalakas.

yung drainage madali din un,basta lagyan lang ng dalawang drainage sa both ends.
dina man exactly dapat lalabas ung tubig mula sa water collecting reservoir.

I didn't know that you are an expert in tennis court construction. Sorry.

As for the drainage system, water as we all know seeks it's own level. So if you'll build your tennis court on a low lying area drainage will surely be a problem. Yes engineering can solve this problem through pumps and channels but the additional cost this would entail will definitely be much more than putting up wind breakers. Water reservoirs will easily be filled up if there is no place for the water to go.

Again, this things are all possible like I've said. nothing is impossible but the cost will be far greater.

[racketwiz]

I think a sunken court has more to do with aesthetics rather than function.

A 10-ft windscreen around a ground level court serves the same purpose and function as a 7-ft windscreen around a 3-ft sunken court.

Moving at least 25,000 cubic feet of soil to build a sunken court, constructing a concrete retaining wall around its perimeter and cutting a drainage gutter on both ends costs more than putting up a 3-step grandstand along the sides of a ground level court.

A sunken court would look nice in my backyard botanical garden, but if it was a better matchplay proposition, I wonder why the outside courts at Flushing Meadows are at ground level?

[tenmirage]

ung ao kaci siguro malapit sa dagat or desert dun kaya siguro masyado
mahangin. si tenmirage alam siguro, dahil taga aussie cya.

hindi malapit sa dagat ang melbourne park (name ng tennis centre). during the AO event which is summer here ay may days na mahangin talaga.ito yung mga days/time when the weather changes. remember ang melbourne ay known for the phrase '4 seasons in a day'.

the strong winds are mitigated by the tarpaulin cloths put around the individual courts and the design of the centre itself for the 'minor' outside courts.

the tarpaulins are about 4 meters high and are put all in the back courts up to about a quarter of the sides. then yung sides has some seating going up.

dumalaw na lang kasi kayu dito sa melbourne para makita nyo... hehe. 

[tenmirage]

I think a sunken court has more to do with aesthetics rather than function.

A 10-ft windscreen around a ground level court serves the same purpose and function as a 7-ft windscreen around a 3-ft sunken court.

Moving at least 25,000 cubic feet of soil to build a sunken court, constructing a concrete retaining wall around its perimeter and cutting a drainage gutter on both ends costs more than putting up a 3-step grandstand along the sides of a ground level court.

A sunken court would look nice in my backyard botanical garden, but if it was a better matchplay proposition, I wonder why the outside courts at Flushing Meadows are at ground level?

i guess everybody is right about the 'sunken' court.

it may be suitable to some situations it may not be to others. it can be expensive but it may also effect some savings to others.

what im sure of is that it can be used / constructed in lieu of a fence for wind breaking purposes as well as it may serve as bleachers (seats / grandstand).

for me, flat naman yung lupa ko so sunken is out of the question for me. and wla naman siguro maraming manunood sa aking paglalaro kasi nga bano naman ako kaya hindi na kailangan ang seats for audience... hehehe

[Addie_56ers]

I think a sunken court has more to do with aesthetics rather than function.

A 10-ft windscreen around a ground level court serves the same purpose and function as a 7-ft windscreen around a 3-ft sunken court.

Moving at least 25,000 cubic feet of soil to build a sunken court, constructing a concrete retaining wall around its perimeter and cutting a drainage gutter on both ends costs more than putting up a 3-step grandstand along the sides of a ground level court.

A sunken court would look nice in my backyard botanical garden, but if it was a better matchplay proposition, I wonder why the outside courts at Flushing Meadows are at ground level?

i guess everybody is right about the 'sunken' court.

it may be suitable to some situations it may not be to others. it can be expensive but it may also effect some savings to others.

what im sure of is that it can be used / constructed in lieu of a fence for wind breaking purposes as well as it may serve as bleachers (seats / grandstand).

for me, flat naman yung lupa ko so sunken is out of the question for me. and wla naman siguro maraming manunood sa aking paglalaro kasi nga bano naman ako kaya hindi na kailangan ang seats for audience... hehehe

 Tenmirage!! umpisahan mo na!

[tenmirage]

Tenmirage!! umpisahan mo na!

Pag-uwi ko sa October 09 sir Addie.

Wala pang final na contractor and design hanggang ngayun. Sana hindi gahulin ng panahon.

[x.eastern]

tenmirage,

Nice project.  So how is the court project doing? Any learnings you can share?

[poroy]

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sana invited kami sa inauguration.
tnx.

[Fabs]

naku completed na siguro ito december na eh.

[tenmirage]

Apologies for sa late reply at sa walang update.

In short the project is not finished yet. To cut the long story - we started late September. Nakahanap ako ng local na contractor, civil engineer and medjo ok naman pero bata pa. Ang usapan as simple lang, akin ang materials, siya ang bahala sa supervision and organising labor. Bale ang sa kanya ay 30% ng labor cost. He gets his 30% in advance.

People told me it was good enough, so I got into it. So ayun advance ako ng 30%, bili ng initial materials and the work started.

Unfortunately naaksidente sya! Nakagat ng ahas! Kaya ayun tigil ang work. Stopped at ground clearing, soil movement and leveling stages.

Hindi na sya gumaling, he died 2 weeks after. Huhu...

Ngayon, I found out that padded pala ung labor cost and may arrangement pala sya sa suppliers na 15% pala ang patong / cut nya sa materials. Naisahan ako.

Kaya ngayun ayun mothball muna ang project. Hanap ulit ng ibang contractor or ako na lang kaya mag supervise tutal engineer naman tayu nung araw...

Uuwi uli ako sa March 2010, so baka sakali maka-start ulit.

[Fabs]

haha ang bilis naman ng karma nun 

pero atleast sigurado ka na na tapat yung next na gagawa, good luck bro!!!

[Darkwing]

Apologies for sa late reply at sa walang update.

In short the project is not finished yet. To cut the long story - we started late September. Nakahanap ako ng local na contractor, civil engineer and medjo ok naman pero bata pa. Ang usapan as simple lang, akin ang materials, siya ang bahala sa supervision and organising labor. Bale ang sa kanya ay 30% ng labor cost. He gets his 30% in advance.

People told me it was good enough, so I got into it. So ayun advance ako ng 30%, bili ng initial materials and the work started.

Unfortunately naaksidente sya! Nakagat ng ahas! Kaya ayun tigil ang work. Stopped at ground clearing, soil movement and leveling stages.

Hindi na sya gumaling, he died 2 weeks after. Huhu...

Ngayon, I found out that padded pala ung labor cost and may arrangement pala sya sa suppliers na 15% pala ang patong / cut nya sa materials. Naisahan ako.

Kaya ngayun ayun mothball muna ang project. Hanap ulit ng ibang contractor or ako na lang kaya mag supervise tutal engineer naman tayu nung araw...

Uuwi uli ako sa March 2010, so baka sakali maka-start ulit.

Greetings Tenmirage:

Just a few questions. So arawan yung mga taong gagawa dahil supervison lang sya and organization? Kaw bumili ng materials so mahihirapan dapat syang kumuha ng 15% sa materials? Besides you're an engineer kamo so you know this kalakaran.

[tenmirage]

haha ang bilis naman ng karma nun 

pero atleast sigurado ka na na tapat yung next na gagawa, good luck bro!!!

Ikaw naman sir Fabs... hehehe. Hindi naman siguro karma yun, makamandag lang siguro talaga yung ahas... Ang tawag sa Ilocano yung ahas ay 'karasaen'.. Yun yata ung Philippine Cobra.

[tenmirage]

Greetings Tenmirage:

Just a few questions. So arawan yung mga taong gagawa dahil supervison lang sya and organization? Kaw bumili ng materials so mahihirapan dapat syang kumuha ng 15% sa materials? Besides you're an engineer kamo so you know this kalakaran.

Oo arawan ang mga tao, pero lingguhan ang sweldo nila. Bale bigay nya sa akin ang payroll. Pupunduhan ko kung anuman ang amount ng payroll plus yun 30% nya.

Ako ang bumibili ng materyals in the sense na bigay nya sa akin yung bill of materials with the estimated cost. So bigay ko naman ang funds for him to do the actual buying. After the purchase bigay nya sa akin resibo plus sukli kung meron. Kung minsan ok naman na pupuntahan ko na lang yung supplier to pay after delivery.

Yun nga e.. I trusted him kasi nga rekomendado & kamag-anak pa.

Oo engineer ako, pero never naman ako nagpadding ng labor cost o kaya nag mark-up ng materiales. Ang akala ko kasi di nya gagawin kasi nga kaibigan, kakilala & kamag-anak pa.

Ganyan talaga ang buhay di ba?

Oo nga pala tagal na ako hindi nagpractise na engineer...

[Fabs]

ah ok hehe nasabi ko lnag naman yun kasi ng lamang sa kapwa hehe.

[Darkwing]

Greetings Tenmirage:

Just a few questions. So arawan yung mga taong gagawa dahil supervison lang sya and organization? Kaw bumili ng materials so mahihirapan dapat syang kumuha ng 15% sa materials? Besides you're an engineer kamo so you know this kalakaran.

Oo arawan ang mga tao, pero lingguhan ang sweldo nila. Bale bigay nya sa akin ang payroll. Pupunduhan ko kung anuman ang amount ng payroll plus yun 30% nya.

Ako ang bumibili ng materyals in the sense na bigay nya sa akin yung bill of materials with the estimated cost. So bigay ko naman ang funds for him to do the actual buying. After the purchase bigay nya sa akin resibo plus sukli kung meron. Kung minsan ok naman na pupuntahan ko na lang yung supplier to pay after delivery.

Yun nga e.. I trusted him kasi nga rekomendado & kamag-anak pa.

Oo engineer ako, pero never naman ako nagpadding ng labor cost o kaya nag mark-up ng materiales. Ang akala ko kasi di nya gagawin kasi nga kaibigan, kakilala & kamag-anak pa.

Ganyan talaga ang buhay di ba?

Oo nga pala tagal na ako hindi nagpractise na engineer...

I see.

Goodluck on your project. Invite mo naman kami when it's done. Pinaka inauguration nya. 

[junbug]

punta kayo sa tennis warehouse forum. may nagbuild ng tennis court sa backyard. kasama nag pictures and step by step procedures kung papaano niys ginawa. by the time he got done, it was a good $30K .

[Darkwing]

Uuwi uli ako sa March 2010, so baka sakali maka-start ulit.

Any updates on your project? Maybe we can learn something from experiences you gained in building this. Masaya tyak ito pag natapos.