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[mikki_blinkme]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum 
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina 
5. meng 

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon 
4. jeje 
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky 
2. pauj   
3. macky 

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.
2.
3.

1.0
1.
2.
3.

[jov]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.jov
2.
3.

1.0
1.
2.
3.

[penny_hardaway]

oi jov, mahiya ka sa sarili mo, mga 3.5 ka na!

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.jov
2.
3.

1.0
1.
2.
3.

[Addie_56ers]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum 
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina 
5. meng 

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon 
4. jeje 
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky 
2. pauj   
3. macky 

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.
2.
3.

1.0
1.
2.
3.

WoW! miks thanks! ..isa pa papano ilalagay sa thread? para everytime pwede  i check ng members yung ranking nila  thanks!!!

[Addie_56ers]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.jov
2.
3.

1.0
1.
2.
3.

Ayos! miks galing!!! salamat!!!

[christianpascual]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.jov
2.
3.

1.0
1.ian "christianpascual"
2.
3.

[Addie_56ers]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.jov
2.
3.

1.0
1.ian "christianpascual"
2.
3.

Uy! Christian! Jov! wag nyo muna lagyan ng ranking nyo heheheh ,wait natin ang raters pag nag laro na kayo !!!

[christianpascual]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.jov
2.
3.

1.0
1.ian "christianpascual"
2.
3.

Uy! Christian! Jov! wag nyo muna lagyan ng ranking nyo heheheh ,wait natin ang raters pag nag laro na kayo !!!

AY sorry po sir addie kala ko self rating haha... kelan po pwede magparate sa 56? may fees ba?

[Addie_56ers]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.jov
2.
3.

1.0
1.ian "christianpascual"
2.
3.

Uy! Christian! Jov! wag nyo muna lagyan ng ranking nyo heheheh ,wait natin ang raters pag nag laro na kayo !!!

AY sorry po sir addie kala ko self rating haha... kelan po pwede magparate sa 56? may fees ba?

Christian! sila Vito pupunta  din sabay ka na sa saturday! papalaruin ko kayo sa class C para ma determine ang rating nyo!... sa fees yun lang pulot 15 pesos ,court fee 20 pesos yun lang!!

[mikki_blinkme]

sir addie pwede nyo na rin ilagay yung ibang matagal nyo ng nakikita o madalas maglaro dyan. bigyan nyo na rin sila ntrp.

[Addie_56ers]

sir addie pwede nyo na rin ilagay yung ibang matagal nyo ng nakikita o madalas maglaro dyan. bigyan nyo na rin sila ntrp.

ok miks palalagay ko kay Leo! salamat!!!

[mikki_blinkme]

nice. tapos year end dapat may ratings din. tapos post natin not in text/forum format. yung medyo maayos. pagawa natin kay dan.

[Addie_56ers]

nice. tapos year end dapat may ratings din. tapos post natin not in text/forum format. yung medyo maayos. pagawa natin kay dan.

YUn!! ang maganda Miks ,,sana maging succesful! ang ratings .. para everytime may tournasment ,tingin lang sa rating ng member ,alam na!!!

[Darkwing]

Parang masyado ata mataas ang rating natin.

[Addie_56ers]

Parang masyado ata mataas ang rating natin.

Bro! it was based on 56ers criteria!

[Darkwing]

Maybe we can be a little bit more conservative in our rating system. Mas maganda yung under rated ng konti kesa over rated. Remember a 4.0 player should be able to match up well with any other 4.0 player of the same gender from anywhere.  Baka lang naman yung 4.5 natin ilampaso lang ng 3..5 ng iba. It wouldn't hurt the kung medyo conservative tayo konti. Yun lang naman tingin ko.

[Addie_56ers]

Maybe we can be a little bit more conservative in our rating system. Mas maganda yung under rated ng konti kesa over rated. Remember a 4.0 player should be able to match up well with any other 4.0 player of the same gender from anywhere.  Baka lang naman yung 4.5 natin ilampaso lang ng 3..5 ng iba. It wouldn't hurt the kung medyo conservative tayo konti. Yun lang naman tingin ko.

Base on 56ers rating ang 4 eh B- lang yun ..eh si pol nag champion ng class C ,, kaya hindi na sya pwede ibaba pa ,while the rest talagang mababa pa rating!

[Francis]

Maybe we can be a little bit more conservative in our rating system. Mas maganda yung under rated ng konti kesa over rated. Remember a 4.0 player should be able to match up well with any other 4.0 player of the same gender from anywhere.  Baka lang naman yung 4.5 natin ilampaso lang ng 3..5 ng iba. It wouldn't hurt the kung medyo conservative tayo konti. Yun lang naman tingin ko.

Based on the post I read here (galing yata kay pinoy or kung hindi e kay penny), the suggestion is actually to rate yourself higher when in doubt. e.g. if you are not sure if you are 3.0 or 3.5, you declare 3.5.

Sa NTRP rating kasi, if you declared wrong tapos masyadong mababa ang declaration mo, forfeited lahat ng napanalunan mo in the lower level tournament. may penalty pa yata that you can no longer play the rest of the season.

[mikki_blinkme]

Maybe we can be a little bit more conservative in our rating system. Mas maganda yung under rated ng konti kesa over rated. Remember a 4.0 player should be able to match up well with any other 4.0 player of the same gender from anywhere.  Baka lang naman yung 4.5 natin ilampaso lang ng 3..5 ng iba. It wouldn't hurt the kung medyo conservative tayo konti. Yun lang naman tingin ko.

Based on the post I read here (galing yata kay pinoy or kung hindi e kay penny), the suggestion is actually to rate yourself higher when in doubt. e.g. if you are not sure if you are 3.0 or 3.5, you declare 3.5.

Sa NTRP rating kasi, if you declared wrong tapos masyadong mababa ang declaration mo, forfeited lahat ng napanalunan mo in the lower level tournament. may penalty pa yata that you can no longer play the rest of the season.

kakatakot to a.

[LitoGarcia]

Maybe we can be a little bit more conservative in our rating system. Mas maganda yung under rated ng konti kesa over rated. Remember a 4.0 player should be able to match up well with any other 4.0 player of the same gender from anywhere.  Baka lang naman yung 4.5 natin ilampaso lang ng 3..5 ng iba. It wouldn't hurt the kung medyo conservative tayo konti. Yun lang naman tingin ko.

Based on the post I read here (galing yata kay pinoy or kung hindi e kay penny), the suggestion is actually to rate yourself higher when in doubt. e.g. if you are not sure if you are 3.0 or 3.5, you declare 3.5.

Sa NTRP rating kasi, if you declared wrong tapos masyadong mababa ang declaration mo, forfeited lahat ng napanalunan mo in the lower level tournament. may penalty pa yata that you can no longer play the rest of the season.

For me my self rating 4.0.

[commander ians]

HIGHER!!! HIGHER!!!!   

[Darkwing]

Maybe we can be a little bit more conservative in our rating system. Mas maganda yung under rated ng konti kesa over rated. Remember a 4.0 player should be able to match up well with any other 4.0 player of the same gender from anywhere.  Baka lang naman yung 4.5 natin ilampaso lang ng 3..5 ng iba. It wouldn't hurt the kung medyo conservative tayo konti. Yun lang naman tingin ko.

Based on the post I read here (galing yata kay pinoy or kung hindi e kay penny), the suggestion is actually to rate yourself higher when in doubt. e.g. if you are not sure if you are 3.0 or 3.5, you declare 3.5.

Sa NTRP rating kasi, if you declared wrong tapos masyadong mababa ang declaration mo, forfeited lahat ng napanalunan mo in the lower level tournament. may penalty pa yata that you can no longer play the rest of the season.

Greetings Francis:

Maybe you are refering to RW's post

Ace is correct.  NTRP ratings are not printed on the USTA membership cards but is available on the member’s online profile.  Players who are first-time USTA league participants do a self-rate initially.  Once the league matches commence, the USTA then uses a dynamic NTRP rating where each match result and the opponent played is factored into the equation.  When a player is calculated to be playing clearly above his level, he is automatically disqualified, all previous matches played will be annulled and he will be bumped up to the next level.  He is not allowed to play any league match until the following season where he must join the appropriately rated team.  If a player is found to be playing below his level, either he will be bumped down when the end-of-year ratings come out or he may appeal to have his rating bumped down for the next season.

One of the things that our USTA leagues team captain did in forming new 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 teams is that he held a “tryout” for new prospective team players.  From his existing team, he would designate benchmark players at 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0.  All new team prospects will initially be 3.5s, which perhaps the average players are anyway.

Prospects play against benchmark 3.5s in either a super tie-break set if there a lot of players, or a no-ad pro set if there a manageable few.  The super tie-break or the no-ad pro set introduces immediate pressure on the players to play their shots right because in an abbreviated match like this, there is very little room for error.  It also gives an insight into the mental aspect of the player, to see how he deals with pressure situations.  In my opinion, this might be a good procedure to establish the initial ratings.

Prospects who lose badly gets bumped down to 3.0, those who hold their own win or lose stays at 3.5, and those who beat 3.5s by a considerable margin gets bumped up to 4.0.  To confirm the ratings, prospects with preliminary ratings play the corresponding benchmarks in a best of 3 set match.  Based on the results, the prospects ratings either stays or is adjusted accordingly.  Ratings are then adjusted at year’s end based on the year’s overall performance.

I’ve watched sectional league championships at 4.5s and 5.0s here, and college matches as well, and these guys are unbelievable.  Using these players as benchmarks, I would say Nino can’t be over 6.0, and our national players can’t be over 6.5.  Currently, I think a pro player deserves a 7.0 rating only when he is ranked at least 1000 on the pro circuit.  But I digress.  This last comment has nothing to do with what we’re trying to accomplish in our little group, and it’s just an opinion I wanted to share.  No offense or disrespect meant to the players concerned.

But his would only hold true if the NTRP Rating System is already in place like in the US.

My point is, as the rating system is known, a 3.5 player's game should be able to match up against a 3.5 player of the same gender from any country not only amongst those 3.5 from PTO. Since we're just starting with the idea of putting up our NTRP Classification then we can start it right by leveling the field, and using the standards already set by the country in which it is now being used widely.

[ruud]

Maybe we can be a little bit more conservative in our rating system. Mas maganda yung under rated ng konti kesa over rated. Remember a 4.0 player should be able to match up well with any other 4.0 player of the same gender from anywhere.  Baka lang naman yung 4.5 natin ilampaso lang ng 3..5 ng iba. It wouldn't hurt the kung medyo conservative tayo konti. Yun lang naman tingin ko.

Based on the post I read here (galing yata kay pinoy or kung hindi e kay penny), the suggestion is actually to rate yourself higher when in doubt. e.g. if you are not sure if you are 3.0 or 3.5, you declare 3.5.

Sa NTRP rating kasi, if you declared wrong tapos masyadong mababa ang declaration mo, forfeited lahat ng napanalunan mo in the lower level tournament. may penalty pa yata that you can no longer play the rest of the season.

on the flip side of it, if you declared wrong tapos mataas masyado ... isosoli din mga talo mo??? hahahahaha!!

[Francis]

Heto yung link that penny posted...

http://www.doittennis.com/knowledge-center/ntrp.php

Know Your NTRP Rating SystemNational Tennis Rating Program (NTRP)
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GUIDELINES

The rating categories are generalizations about skill levels. You may find that you actually play above or below the category that best describes your skill level, depending on your competitive ability. The category you choose is not meant to be permanent, but may be adjusted as your skills change or as your match play demonstrates the need for reclassification. Ultimately your rating is based upon match results.

Players must rate themselves in accordance with the NTRP. When players are rating themselves and they question at which level they should play, they should place themselves in the higher level of play.

[Francis]

on the flip side of it, if you declared wrong tapos mataas masyado ... isosoli din mga talo mo??? hahahahaha!!

correct. so, this will really put a motivation on the player rating himself to assess himself very well. kasi pag binabaan nya, he is penalized. pag tinaasan naman niya, gulpi siya.

[Ace]

I don't think we should worry about the penalty since we're not going to use any computer system for now.

I agree with Darking that we should be conservative with the rating para in case may bumisita sa atin from other countries with the same NTRP rating... mas magandang maging impression nila na magagaling yung levels natin.

yung self-rate... kahit masyado mataas or mababa eventually maco-correct sya pag nagparate sa benchmark players sa 56ers

[Fabs]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A

1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.
3.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky
4. Fabs

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.jov


1.01.ian "christianpascual"
2.
3.

 

[Addie_56ers]

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A

1.
2.
3.

5.0
1.
2.
3.


4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
1.
2.
3.

4.0
1. POL   
2.
3.

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
1. yum
2. JC   
3. jun   
4. wina
5. meng

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon
4. jeje
5. ekyo

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
1. marky
2. pauj   
3. macky
4. Fabs

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.jov


1.01.ian "christianpascual"
2.
3.

 

wow ganda Fabs thanks!

[Addie_56ers]

I don't think we should worry about the penalty since we're not going to use any computer system for now.

I agree with Darking that we should be conservative with the rating para in case may bumisita sa atin from other countries with the same NTRP rating... mas magandang maging impression nila na magagaling yung levels natin.

yung self-rate... kahit masyado mataas or mababa eventually maco-correct sya pag nagparate sa benchmark players sa 56ers

Guys, the ratings that where given to class C players where patterned to NTRP ,and 56ers rating ,it was all based to our global ladder ,which states that only 2.0 level can join a tournament... since all the participants are all class C ,we can not give them the minimum 2.o rating ,since all of them passed the criteria for the 2.0 rating ,and they made more progress during the tournament.... Guys  lets support it ,that way ,for future tournaments ,we will have a guide for all participants ..please start conducting your own ratings ,to your club tournaments , better yet do visit us on sunday to assess ,how we rate ,all participants!!!

[mikki_blinkme]

yeah boy! uy fabs ikaw na lang taga update ng mga ntrp a. ikaw na maglagay ng mga names. sir addie pm nyo na lang kay fabs mga names with ntrp dyan na wala pa sa lists.

[kapuroy_56ers]

Ang mahalaga ay naumpisahan na to. Once completed or officially concluded, player himself can appeal whether he/she goes up or down. Then create a committee that will handle the matter. From there suggestions are welcome.

[Ace]

I don't think we should worry about the penalty since we're not going to use any computer system for now.

I agree with Darking that we should be conservative with the rating para in case may bumisita sa atin from other countries with the same NTRP rating... mas magandang maging impression nila na magagaling yung levels natin.

yung self-rate... kahit masyado mataas or mababa eventually maco-correct sya pag nagparate sa benchmark players sa 56ers

Guys, the ratings that where given to class C players where patterned to NTRP ,and 56ers rating ,it was all based to our global ladder ,which states that only 2.0 level can join a tournament... since all the participants are all class C ,we can not give them the minimum 2.o rating ,since all of them passed the criteria for the 2.0 rating ,and they made more progress during the tournament.... Guys  lets support it ,that way ,for future tournaments ,we will have a guide for all participants ..please start conducting your own ratings ,to your club tournaments , better yet do visit us on sunday to assess ,how we rate ,all participants!!!

Oks Sir Addie... as long as we based it on the guidelines then I'll support it.  Tska I agree with Kapuroy na ang importante ay masimulan na para umuusad 

[Tecnifibre_Guy]

I don't think we should worry about the penalty since we're not going to use any computer system for now.

I agree with Darking that we should be conservative with the rating para in case may bumisita sa atin from other countries with the same NTRP rating... mas magandang maging impression nila na magagaling yung levels natin.

yung self-rate... kahit masyado mataas or mababa eventually maco-correct sya pag nagparate sa benchmark players sa 56ers

Guys, the ratings that where given to class C players where patterned to NTRP ,and 56ers rating ,it was all based to our global ladder ,which states that only 2.0 level can join a tournament... since all the participants are all class C ,we can not give them the minimum 2.o rating ,since all of them passed the criteria for the 2.0 rating ,and they made more progress during the tournament.... Guys  lets support it ,that way ,for future tournaments ,we will have a guide for all participants ..please start conducting your own ratings ,to your club tournaments , better yet do visit us on sunday to assess ,how we rate ,all participants!!!

Oks Sir Addie... as long as we based it on the guidelines then I'll support it.  Tska I agree with Kapuroy na ang importante ay masimulan na para umuusad 

Basta si kapuroy agree lang ako ng agree....  iba talaga yung laman nung mami na nyan 

[LEO_56ers]

I don't think we should worry about the penalty since we're not going to use any computer system for now.

I agree with Darking that we should be conservative with the rating para in case may bumisita sa atin from other countries with the same NTRP rating... mas magandang maging impression nila na magagaling yung levels natin.

yung self-rate... kahit masyado mataas or mababa eventually maco-correct sya pag nagparate sa benchmark players sa 56ers

Guys, the ratings that where given to class C players where patterned to NTRP ,and 56ers rating ,it was all based to our global ladder ,which states that only 2.0 level can join a tournament... since all the participants are all class C ,we can not give them the minimum 2.o rating ,since all of them passed the criteria for the 2.0 rating ,and they made more progress during the tournament.... Guys  lets support it ,that way ,for future tournaments ,we will have a guide for all participants ..please start conducting your own ratings ,to your club tournaments , better yet do visit us on sunday to assess ,how we rate ,all participants!!!

Oks Sir Addie... as long as we based it on the guidelines then I'll support it.  Tska I agree with Kapuroy na ang importante ay masimulan na para umuusad 

Basta si kapuroy agree lang ako ng agree....  iba talaga yung laman nung mami na nyan 

Mismooooooo.. Pag dating sa Mami ang rate ko dyan 7.0 pang WORLD CLASS 

[LEO_56ers]

SUGGESTED NTRP RATINGS OF PTO/TP/ORG MEMBERS! ! !

Adjust nyo na lang  if ever 

6.0

1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

5.0


1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik
5. Mundoy Lopez

4.5


1. Ariel tiu
2. Talobab
3.

4.0

1. Supermario
2. Hunkie
3. Francis
4. Lito Garcia
5. TG
6. Vegeta
7. Leo (nag self rate noh)
8. Pinoydaysleeper
9. Darwin_56ers
10. papa Fred
11. Edgar
12 Peelet
13. Tonettem
14. Kingcare


3.5


1. Joyce-56ers
2. Ruud
3. Pennyhardaway
4. Reboj
5. Martini
6. Marco_56ers
7. Kamote_56ers
8. Loken
9. Dani
10. Rik
11. Harry
12. Ace

3.0


1. POL   
2. Mark_56ers
3. Skrew_56ers
4. Chito_56ers
5. DW
6. Whizzard
7. Kaido
8. Bobmiton
9. Carlo
10. Addie_56ers
11. Edreams
12. Kapuroy_56ers
13 thaye_56ers
14. junior_56ers
15. Deadly serve
16. Xylemral
17. sbunk

2.5

1. yum 
2. JC   
3. jun9195   
4. wina 
5. meng 
6. Lendl
7. Mcgyver
8. kooldie
9. alnielle
10. skink
11. Monica
12. Allan
13 michelle

2.0

1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon 
4. jeje 
5. ekyo
6. mikks
7. jov
8. fabs


1.5


1. marky 
2. pauj   
3. macky 

1.0


1.
2.

[Darkwing]

Partner Mikks Sample ulit huh! 

Mga Bossing wag nyo masyado pag ka seryosohin rating magka idea lang tayo
from the start huh.. in the end kayo pa din naman mag decide masimulan lang eka nga!!!

@DW kung mataas rating ko pede natin babaan minus 1 kumbaga

@Francis nagstart ako sa 2.0 reg sa Ladder natin na rules sa singles to join start from 2.0

Try ko ulit mag sample base sa mga nakita ko maglaro na ..

NTRP RATINGS as of July 21, 2009

7.0 World Class
1. SLP
2. Oldskul
3. Nino A.

6.0 National Collegiate Players
1. Kowch Bob
2. Diplomat
3. Macy
4. Tennis Adik
5. Mundoy Lopez

5.0 - 5.5  CLASS A
5.5
1. Ariel tiu
2. Talobab
3.

5.0
1. Supermario
2. Hunkie
3. Francis
4. Lito Garcia
5. TG
6. Vegeta
7. Leo (nag self rate noh)
8. Pinoydaysleeper
9. Darwin_56ers
10. papa Fred
11. Edgar
12 Peelet

4.0 - 4.5  CLASS B
4.5
1. Joyce-56ers
2. Ruud
3. Pennyhardaway
4. Reboj
5. Martini
6. Marco_56ers
7. Kamote_56ers
8. Loken
9. Dani
10.

4.0
1. POL   
2. Mark_56ers
3. Skrew_56ers
4. Chito_56ers
5. DW
6. Whizzard
7. Kaido
8. Bobmiton
9. Carlo
10. Addie_56ers
11. Edreams
12. Kapuroy_56ers
13 thaye_56ers
14. junior_56ers

3.0 - 3.5  CLASS C
3.5
1. yum 
2. JC   
3. jun9195   
4. wina 
5. meng 
6. Lendl
7. Mcgyver
8. kooldie
9. alnielle
10. skink
11. Monica
12. Allan
13 michelle

3.0
1. arnel
2. kilua
3. moon 
4. jeje 
5. ekyo
6. mikks
7. jov
8. fabs

2.0 - 2.5  Advanced Beginner
2.5
1. marky 
2. pauj   
3. macky 

2.0
1.
2.

1.0 - 1.5  Beginner
1.5
1.
2.
3.

1.0
1.
2.
3.

[/quote]

Sir Leo at sa lahat ng mambabasa:

Liwanagin ko lang.

Walang kumokontra sa ginagawa na pag rate. In fact sigurado akong agree lahat na magkaroon tayo ng NTRP Rating amongst the group. In fact sabi ko nga part na yan ng original plan. Mabuti din at pinangunahan na ng 56ers para masimulan na. Ang sinasabi ko po lang ay sana i-base din natin yung level ng rating natin sa mga players kung saan nag simula yang NTRP Rating na yan. Sa Estados Unidos. Kung sa tingin po ninyo, yung mga 3.0 natin na kaparehong kasarian ay kayang tumapat sa 3.0 na manlalaro sa US di maayos. Yun lang naman po.

Again hindi kami komokontra bagkus nagbibigay lang ng suhestion para lalo pang maayos yung gagawin nating pag rate. Yun lang po.

Tennis na ulit!

[LEO_56ers]

No Problem Sir Dw... Suggest ko lang dyan yun level of game ng mga nakita ko maglaro sa pagkasunod sunod

Regarding sa Ntrp rating siguro kau na mag decide reg sa mga nos. na yan.. Maganda na din yun may idea at para may
 
masimulan.. see yah!!! 
 

[Darkwing]

Ang mahalaga ay naumpisahan na to. Once completed or officially concluded, player himself can appeal whether he/she goes up or down. Then create a committee that will handle the matter. From there suggestions are welcome.

Approved without thinking Ka Puroy!

[Addie_56ers]

Ang mahalaga ay naumpisahan na to. Once completed or officially concluded, player himself can appeal whether he/she goes up or down. Then create a committee that will handle the matter. From there suggestions are welcome.

Approved without thinking Ka Puroy!

Magandang bakbakan sa sunday! class B PTO tournament! .get your tickets and enjoy the matches!!! maganda pa ito kesa Davis Cup!!! hehehe

[Francis]

Sir Leo at sa lahat ng mambabasa:

Liwanagin ko lang.

Walang kumokontra sa ginagawa na pag rate. In fact sigurado akong agree lahat na magkaroon tayo ng NTRP Rating amongst the group. In fact sabi ko nga part na yan ng original plan. Mabuti din at pinangunahan na ng 56ers para masimulan na. Ang sinasabi ko po lang ay sana i-base din natin yung level ng rating natin sa mga players kung saan nag simula yang NTRP Rating na yan. Sa Estados Unidos. Kung sa tingin po ninyo, yung mga 3.0 natin na kaparehong kasarian ay kayang tumapat sa 3.0 na manlalaro sa US di maayos. Yun lang naman po.

Again hindi kami komokontra bagkus nagbibigay lang ng suhestion para lalo pang maayos yung gagawin nating pag rate. Yun lang po.

Tennis na ulit!

Sangayon din ako sa sinimulan ng 56ers. Para sa akin, sa ngayon hindi masyado importante kung accurate man ito o hindi dahil sa tingin ko magiging pulido din ito pagdaan ng panahon. Ang importante ay nasimulan na ito at mayroon na tayong basehan. May be US has a set standards but I don't think it will hurt if at this point we base these standards to the available players that we have dito sa PTO. And besides, initial rating pa lang din naman ito. Pwedeng pang bumaba o tumaas ang rating na ito depende na iyan sa performance ng players sa mga tournaments.

[Darkwing]

Sir Leo at sa lahat ng mambabasa:

Liwanagin ko lang.

Walang kumokontra sa ginagawa na pag rate. In fact sigurado akong agree lahat na magkaroon tayo ng NTRP Rating amongst the group. In fact sabi ko nga part na yan ng original plan. Mabuti din at pinangunahan na ng 56ers para masimulan na. Ang sinasabi ko po lang ay sana i-base din natin yung level ng rating natin sa mga players kung saan nag simula yang NTRP Rating na yan. Sa Estados Unidos. Kung sa tingin po ninyo, yung mga 3.0 natin na kaparehong kasarian ay kayang tumapat sa 3.0 na manlalaro sa US di maayos. Yun lang naman po.

Again hindi kami komokontra bagkus nagbibigay lang ng suhestion para lalo pang maayos yung gagawin nating pag rate. Yun lang po.

Tennis na ulit!

Sangayon din ako sa sinimulan ng 56ers. Para sa akin, sa ngayon hindi masyado importante kung accurate man ito o hindi dahil sa tingin ko magiging pulido din ito pagdaan ng panahon. Ang importante ay nasimulan na ito at mayroon na tayong basehan. May be US has a set standards but I don't think it will hurt if at this point we base these standards to the available players that we have dito sa PTO. And besides, initial rating pa lang din naman ito. Pwedeng pang bumaba o tumaas ang rating na ito depende na iyan sa performance ng players sa mga tournaments.

Pasensya na hindi ako makatiis e. 

Pag sinimulan ang isang bagay dapat ayusin agad. Not just start something and expect it to iron itself out in the end. We have the luxury of starting it right and adopting a system which is already in place. Dahil in-place na sya sa US nakita na natin yun mga bagay bagay na pwede pa natin i-improve sa system na ito. At yung ang pag base ng rankings natin sa mga ka level natin sa US. Hindi kasi ako sangayon na basta lang masimulan e bahala na dyan. Kung magsisimula rin lang dapat ayusin na. Ito e opinion ko lang naman.

Sa point na ito na maaayos din lang sya sa huli, tingin ko HINDI dahil kung simula palang mataas na ang rating natin di pag gumaling galing lang ng konti yung player na ie; 3.5 di magiging 4.0 na sya samantalang pag natapat sya sa 3.0 na kaparehong kasarian ng US e baka hindi pa sya maka sabay. Sabi ko nga "Start it right."

Again suhestyon lang ito.

[mikki_blinkme]

may point din si DW. like may nabasa ako sa ibang forums sabi forumer 3.0 sya bansag sa kanya ng ibang forumer ay beginner. yung iba naman nashock kasi 2 yrs pa lang daw yung isang forumer e 4.0 na sya. kasi karaniwan nga sa kanila 3.5 10 yrs ng nagtetennis e.

[Ace]

Sir Leo at sa lahat ng mambabasa:

Liwanagin ko lang.

Walang kumokontra sa ginagawa na pag rate. In fact sigurado akong agree lahat na magkaroon tayo ng NTRP Rating amongst the group. In fact sabi ko nga part na yan ng original plan. Mabuti din at pinangunahan na ng 56ers para masimulan na. Ang sinasabi ko po lang ay sana i-base din natin yung level ng rating natin sa mga players kung saan nag simula yang NTRP Rating na yan. Sa Estados Unidos. Kung sa tingin po ninyo, yung mga 3.0 natin na kaparehong kasarian ay kayang tumapat sa 3.0 na manlalaro sa US di maayos. Yun lang naman po.

Again hindi kami komokontra bagkus nagbibigay lang ng suhestion para lalo pang maayos yung gagawin nating pag rate. Yun lang po.

Tennis na ulit!

Sangayon din ako sa sinimulan ng 56ers. Para sa akin, sa ngayon hindi masyado importante kung accurate man ito o hindi dahil sa tingin ko magiging pulido din ito pagdaan ng panahon. Ang importante ay nasimulan na ito at mayroon na tayong basehan. May be US has a set standards but I don't think it will hurt if at this point we base these standards to the available players that we have dito sa PTO. And besides, initial rating pa lang din naman ito. Pwedeng pang bumaba o tumaas ang rating na ito depende na iyan sa performance ng players sa mga tournaments.

Pasensya na hindi ako makatiis e. 

Pag sinimulan ang isang bagay dapat ayusin agad. Not just start something and expect it to iron itself out in the end. We have the luxury of starting it right and adopting a system which is already in place. Dahil in-place na sya sa US nakita na natin yun mga bagay bagay na pwede pa natin i-improve sa system na ito. At yung ang pag base ng rankings natin sa mga ka level natin sa US. Hindi kasi ako sangayon na basta lang masimulan e bahala na dyan. Kung magsisimula rin lang dapat ayusin na. Ito e opinion ko lang naman.

Sa point na ito na maaayos din lang sya sa huli, tingin ko HINDI dahil kung simula palang mataas na ang rating natin di pag gumaling galing lang ng konti yung player na ie; 3.5 di magiging 4.0 na sya samantalang pag natapat sya sa 3.0 na kaparehong kasarian ng US e baka hindi pa sya maka sabay. Sabi ko nga "Start it right."

Again suhestyon lang ito.

Thanks for the suggestion Darkwing.  I like having this kind of discussion because it helps us come up with good ideas.  I guess the question right now is... how do we start it right?  In particular, how can we determine that a 3.0 player in PTO is the same as in the US... unless we meet some NTRP rated players from US?

[Darkwing]

Fabio's cousin has a friend who he says used to play for a college team in the US. Maybe we can use him as a benchmark for our own rating system. I'm sure we can still find other US Rated players to cross reference our rating system with.

[Fabs]

Pwede!! Rik my cousin is also a tennis player division 3 pero way back pa yun heheh, sabi nya when he was rated daw 3.5 to 4 sya, si John, Riks friend who already played in 56ers talaga first stringer sa Temple university, problema nga lang med student hectic din schedule, pero pag nakaluwag imbitahin ko ulit sila sa 56ers to get some inputs.

[LEO_56ers]

Pwede!! Rik my cousin is also a tennis player division 3 pero way back pa yun heheh, sabi nya when he was rated daw 3.5 to 4 sya, si John, Riks friend who already played in 56ers talaga first stringer sa Temple university, problema nga lang med student hectic din schedule, pero pag nakaluwag imbitahin ko ulit sila sa 56ers to get some inputs.

Nice one Fabs.. Kung si Rik 3.5 - 4.0 hmmm mataas lang ako ng 1 sa sample rate ko.. hahaha 

Si John yehhhh mahusay nga yun fabs sarap kalaro... pasyal ulit kayo pag makaluwag-luwag.. see yah!

[Fabs]

OKs kuya Leo,

pasok ka sa chatroom nandun si mark!

[Tecnifibre_Guy]

Sir Leo at sa lahat ng mambabasa:

Liwanagin ko lang.

Walang kumokontra sa ginagawa na pag rate. In fact sigurado akong agree lahat na magkaroon tayo ng NTRP Rating amongst the group. In fact sabi ko nga part na yan ng original plan. Mabuti din at pinangunahan na ng 56ers para masimulan na. Ang sinasabi ko po lang ay sana i-base din natin yung level ng rating natin sa mga players kung saan nag simula yang NTRP Rating na yan. Sa Estados Unidos. Kung sa tingin po ninyo, yung mga 3.0 natin na kaparehong kasarian ay kayang tumapat sa 3.0 na manlalaro sa US di maayos. Yun lang naman po.

Again hindi kami komokontra bagkus nagbibigay lang ng suhestion para lalo pang maayos yung gagawin nating pag rate. Yun lang po.

Tennis na ulit!

Sangayon din ako sa sinimulan ng 56ers. Para sa akin, sa ngayon hindi masyado importante kung accurate man ito o hindi dahil sa tingin ko magiging pulido din ito pagdaan ng panahon. Ang importante ay nasimulan na ito at mayroon na tayong basehan. May be US has a set standards but I don't think it will hurt if at this point we base these standards to the available players that we have dito sa PTO. And besides, initial rating pa lang din naman ito. Pwedeng pang bumaba o tumaas ang rating na ito depende na iyan sa performance ng players sa mga tournaments.

Pasensya na hindi ako makatiis e. 

Pag sinimulan ang isang bagay dapat ayusin agad. Not just start something and expect it to iron itself out in the end. We have the luxury of starting it right and adopting a system which is already in place. Dahil in-place na sya sa US nakita na natin yun mga bagay bagay na pwede pa natin i-improve sa system na ito. At yung ang pag base ng rankings natin sa mga ka level natin sa US. Hindi kasi ako sangayon na basta lang masimulan e bahala na dyan. Kung magsisimula rin lang dapat ayusin na. Ito e opinion ko lang naman.

Sa point na ito na maaayos din lang sya sa huli, tingin ko HINDI dahil kung simula palang mataas na ang rating natin di pag gumaling galing lang ng konti yung player na ie; 3.5 di magiging 4.0 na sya samantalang pag natapat sya sa 3.0 na kaparehong kasarian ng US e baka hindi pa sya maka sabay. Sabi ko nga "Start it right."

Again suhestyon lang ito.

Maybe we should just use the NTRP rating as a guide rather than the standard.  Correct me if I am wrong but the US is the only one using the NTRP rating system, we don't have the luxury of having american 3.0 players to use as our benchmark.

For example:

3.5 - Has achieved improved stroke dependability with directional control on moderate shots, but still lacks depth and variety. Starting to exhibit more aggressive net play, has improved court coverage and is developing teamwork in doubles.

This is the description of a 3.5 according to USTA.  The description is self explanatory.  But it doesn't mean that everyone who has this description will be a match to american 3.5 players iba yung competitive environment nila with ours.

Looking at Leo's rating I agree it seems high, but look at it closely there is logic to it.  Alcantara is world class for our standards because he represents our country in World class tournaments.  And anyone who has had Philta ranking should be considered 6.0 by our own standards and as described in the NTRP guide.

6.0 - Has obtained a sectional and/or national ranking.

In our case I think it is better to start now rather than just do nothing at all.  Having a rating system like this can be very valuable to an organization like ours, since it can more or less level the players for amateur tournaments.

[racketwiz]

When the USTA began implementing the NTRP system, I imagine that they had the same concerns and issues as we have now.  30 years since and having been proven in USTA league play, I think there is a general consensus, especially among USTA league players, of what constitutes each rating. Unfortunately, we don’t have such a track record to rely on.
 
Being that our organization is adapting this rating system primarily for the benefit our members, the majority of whom are based locally, maybe it makes sense that the evaluation is being done according to local ranking conventions.   If it serves the purpose of pairing players at their peer level so that players have more competitive, exciting and balanced matches, then that’s what we’re after.

Although the NTRP is a subjective process, consistent match results will prove or disprove a rating, and players will eventually fall into their proper levels.  If a self-rated player is undecided between 2 ratings, then go with the higher rating.  It’s easier to be bumped down than be penalized for under-rating.

While we can adapt the NTRP for the same reasons the USTA has, it may not be practical to use USTA League standards to define ours.  There may be some differences in interpretation, and so are the perspectives from which these interpretations are taken from.

For example, from my perspective, 2.5 to 3.0 players are C players, 3.5 to 4.0 are B players, and 4.5 to 5.0 are A players.  Open players include 5.5+ players and may also include strong 5.0 players (5.3 & 5.4). Alcantara and our current national players cannot be rated above 6.0 simply because they don't have extensive success at the futures or satellite pro circuits and thus lack the track record to show that they have a reasonable chance of succeeding at 7.0.  Taino and Mamiit are obviously 7.0 players.
 
So basically, we have a couple of choices:

[1] let our NTRP rating system be our interpretation, and leave the USTA’s interpretation to theirs.  If an expat member (either NTRP self-rated or USTA-rated) comes home, then let the expat player go thru the same evaluation protocols we have established in order to be officially TPOrg-rated.  In most cases, perhaps the differences, if any, would be within +/- 0.5.

Or,

[2] round up players in our membership who has had USTA league play experience and use them as benchmarks.  Former US college players can be a good resource for input in this regard, but at their level of competition, they are more familiar with 5.0+ level players.  What we need are more of these players, including USTA league players who have comparative perspectives on 3.0 to 5.0 levels of matches.  From this wide range of inputs, we can establish an NTRP rating system that is more or less in line with US standards.

For what it’s worth, I am currently benchmarked by the USTA leagues as a 3.5 player.  I’ve had a couple of singles matches against Harry at Citadella and our matches were very close.  If memory serves me right, one went to a third set and the other went to a tiebreak.  I don’t know what Harry’s rating is but maybe you can glean something from our match results.  We also had that Army(?) player at our last EB who graciously lent his skills to our organization.  From my very limited observation of his game, I’d say he’s a 4.5, but no more than a 5.0, player.

Whatever our rating protocol turns out to be, we may add additional rating designations, such a letter suffixes.  For example, “S” suffix denotes a “self-rated” player pending an official rating and a “B” suffix denotes a “benchmark” player.  No letter suffix simply means that the rating is official.
 
Just a thought.

[pinoydaysleeper]

A_M_E_N

as much as we want to be accurate..or to be on the right side of things..or to be precise..or however you call it... we can only do so much..

yon mga ratings nmn yata na binigay e..hindi dinaan sa lucky 9 o sa roleta.. panigurado pinag-isipan din yan.. at ang mga nag-rate..malamang yon mga nakakaintindi rin.eto kc yta yon mga tipong damn if u do..damn if u dont..

about the "u.s." thingie..(konyotik) maibabase lang natin..kung mkkpanuod tyo ng mga players sa US mismo..either pmunta dun at manuod.. or pmunta sila dito at panuorin natin.. basing our ratings to them would then be a little difficult..and say..we dont agree on the ratings given to ourselves or to anyone else..pwde naman tayong magreklamo..o mag suhestiyon..

bottomline..we have a copy of the GUIDElines..so lets just follow it..thats why its guide..right..

keep the ball rolling..kudos to those who initiated..bold move..

Sir Leo at sa lahat ng mambabasa:

Liwanagin ko lang.

Walang kumokontra sa ginagawa na pag rate. In fact sigurado akong agree lahat na magkaroon tayo ng NTRP Rating amongst the group. In fact sabi ko nga part na yan ng original plan. Mabuti din at pinangunahan na ng 56ers para masimulan na. Ang sinasabi ko po lang ay sana i-base din natin yung level ng rating natin sa mga players kung saan nag simula yang NTRP Rating na yan. Sa Estados Unidos. Kung sa tingin po ninyo, yung mga 3.0 natin na kaparehong kasarian ay kayang tumapat sa 3.0 na manlalaro sa US di maayos. Yun lang naman po.

Again hindi kami komokontra bagkus nagbibigay lang ng suhestion para lalo pang maayos yung gagawin nating pag rate. Yun lang po.

Tennis na ulit!

Sangayon din ako sa sinimulan ng 56ers. Para sa akin, sa ngayon hindi masyado importante kung accurate man ito o hindi dahil sa tingin ko magiging pulido din ito pagdaan ng panahon. Ang importante ay nasimulan na ito at mayroon na tayong basehan. May be US has a set standards but I don't think it will hurt if at this point we base these standards to the available players that we have dito sa PTO. And besides, initial rating pa lang din naman ito. Pwedeng pang bumaba o tumaas ang rating na ito depende na iyan sa performance ng players sa mga tournaments.