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[Ace]

After you have been assessed, overtime your rating may go up (or down). Then you may need to be assessed again to determine your current NTRP rating. But I think there is a way to avoid requesting for a periodic assessment by using a system that we already have online. That is the tennis ladder. If you play enough ladder matches, the system will actually tell you the system's calculation of your rating based on the rating that you have initially entered and of the other players registered in the ladder that you played.

Kailangan nga lang you play several matches with different players to get a more consistent rating.

Ace - Sa US, you are given a card signifying your NTRP rating, tama ba? If so, we may copy the same at laging bitbit ng isang PTO tennis player ang NTRP card nya so everytime he enters a tournament, let's say NTRP 4.0 tournament, ipapakita nya lang ang card niya to qualify himself to enter that tournament.

Hmm hindi ako nabigyan ng card hehe    Pero yung NTRP rating ko andon sa USTA database.  Automatic na nache check everytime ako sumali sa tournaments.  Pde ako sumali sa current kong rating (3.0) or higher (3.5).  Tsaka at the end of the season... nire recompute ng system ung next ranking mo based on the matches results.  Medyo complicated ung formula nung ni-research ko.  Pero bottomline if you win most (I guess 90%) of your matches, automatic promoted ka na sa next na level.

Yung system may automatic checking rin... if you keep winning easily (example 6-0, 6-1) on your current level... automatic idisqualify ka sa current level mo then imo-move up ka sa next na level...

[Ace]

I suggest we start first with 56ers.  Currently, I think they have the A, B & C rating... maybe they can have NTRP rating for its members as well.  Mas madali kasing mag-test don kasi nasa isang lugar lang sila at cooperative sila (naks).  Observe natin for a few months how effective the NTRP rating is.  Kung may issues sa rating then we'll address it.  Once naayos na natin sa 56ers then we can disseminate with the rest of PTO members.

Watchathink?   

[Francis]

This is good. Having a system with database is even better. I saw an open source code for ladders before. I may still have it in my machine. we can use that if we wish to have a working system in no time. if we want to make adjustments, a designer/developer on LAMP platform may help.

Another option: we may continue using the Global Tennis Network (GTN) database. We just need to update it annually to reflect the current rating at the end of the season.

But if we do this, we may need one ladder which includes everyone. The system is limited to calculating the rating based on the registered players on a particular ladder. If there are separate ladders for heavens, thunders, 56ers, etc. we can still keep that if we wish but there should be one official ladder for PTO where the PTO rating is reflected and shall be used for PTO sanctioned tourneys.

When this is in place, questions about participants to 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, etc. tournaments will be minimized.

[Darkwing]

This is good. Having a system with database is even better. I saw an open source code for ladders before. I may still have it in my machine. we can use that if we wish to have a working system in no time. if we want to make adjustments, a designer/developer on LAMP platform may help.

Another option: we may continue using the Global Tennis Network (GTN) database. We just need to update it annually to reflect the current rating at the end of the season.

But if we do this, we may need one ladder which includes everyone. The system is limited to calculating the rating based on the registered players on a particular ladder. If there are separate ladders for heavens, thunders, 56ers, etc. we can still keep that if we wish but there should be one official ladder for PTO where the PTO rating is reflected and shall be used for PTO sanctioned tourneys.

When this is in place, questions about participants to 4.0, 3.5, 3.0, etc. tournaments will be minimized.

This sounds like a good plan. And there really should be one single ladder for PTO instead of having multiple ladders for members who have bonded together.

If this is the case will it be an open ladder wherein even a beginner would need to go up against a obviously more skilled player to get his real NTRP Ranking?

[Darkwing]

This is the reason why I think that the ladder is more suitable for our case.

NTRP Language
It is the current policy of the USTA to publish NTRP ratings only in half-point levels (3.5, 4.0, 4.5, etc). NTRP ratings are intended to indicate the player's minimum level for registration, not to finitely measure one player against another, or to use for strength alignment within a team.

The NTRP system calculates current ratings based on the ratings that the players have generated coming into a match combined with the results of that match. A player's rating may go up or down as the season progresses and so might the ratings of partners and opponents. But, ratings are not stand-alone measurements, they must be considered in relation to other NTRP information to which they are linked.

The NTRP is designed to provide:
1. A system of measuring current skill levels that will give tennis players a quantitative assessment of his/her general ability. This enables players with similar skill or abilities to easily arrange compatible and competitive play.
2. A system to manage placement of players within NTRP levels and formats to promote generally level competition in various leagues and tournaments.

Many factors of play can not be reflected in NTRP calculations, such as:
> Physical condition of players at time of match
> Court conditions: sun, wind, temperature
> Styles of play
> Preferences of surface
> Strengths of players: physical, mental, strategy
> Players playing the "match of their life"
> Players playing far below current skill level
This emphasizes the necessity to address ratings in ranges, not as an absolute number that specifically identifies a level at a particular time.

The system using NTRP levels as a range to manage play has been extremely successful in the last 25 years. We believe that providing ratings in tenths or hundredths can be misleading and can also lead to manipulation of match results. For these reasons we do not provide NTRP information more detailed than that now available.

Rating Benchmark Identification
S - Self-rate
A - Appeal
B - Benchmark
C - Computer
D - Dynamic
M - Mixed Exclusive Year-End Rating


Taken from the USTA Site

[Addie_56ers]

This is the reason why I think that the ladder is more suitable for our case.

NTRP Language
It is the current policy of the USTA to publish NTRP ratings only in half-point levels (3.5, 4.0, 4.5, etc). NTRP ratings are intended to indicate the player's minimum level for registration, not to finitely measure one player against another, or to use for strength alignment within a team.

The NTRP system calculates current ratings based on the ratings that the players have generated coming into a match combined with the results of that match. A player's rating may go up or down as the season progresses and so might the ratings of partners and opponents. But, ratings are not stand-alone measurements, they must be considered in relation to other NTRP information to which they are linked.

The NTRP is designed to provide:
1. A system of measuring current skill levels that will give tennis players a quantitative assessment of his/her general ability. This enables players with similar skill or abilities to easily arrange compatible and competitive play.
2. A system to manage placement of players within NTRP levels and formats to promote generally level competition in various leagues and tournaments.

Many factors of play can not be reflected in NTRP calculations, such as:
> Physical condition of players at time of match
> Court conditions: sun, wind, temperature
> Styles of play
> Preferences of surface
> Strengths of players: physical, mental, strategy
> Players playing the "match of their life"
> Players playing far below current skill level
This emphasizes the necessity to address ratings in ranges, not as an absolute number that specifically identifies a level at a particular time.

The system using NTRP levels as a range to manage play has been extremely successful in the last 25 years. We believe that providing ratings in tenths or hundredths can be misleading and can also lead to manipulation of match results. For these reasons we do not provide NTRP information more detailed than that now available.

Rating Benchmark Identification
S - Self-rate
A - Appeal
B - Benchmark
C - Computer
D - Dynamic
M - Mixed Exclusive Year-End Rating


Taken from the USTA Site

At 56ers , we already started the NTRP rating last sat. during the PTO class C tournament we will post the corresponding ratings of the players who participated in the said tournament!!

[Darkwing]

This is the reason why I think that the ladder is more suitable for our case.

NTRP Language
It is the current policy of the USTA to publish NTRP ratings only in half-point levels (3.5, 4.0, 4.5, etc). NTRP ratings are intended to indicate the player's minimum level for registration, not to finitely measure one player against another, or to use for strength alignment within a team.

The NTRP system calculates current ratings based on the ratings that the players have generated coming into a match combined with the results of that match. A player's rating may go up or down as the season progresses and so might the ratings of partners and opponents. But, ratings are not stand-alone measurements, they must be considered in relation to other NTRP information to which they are linked.

The NTRP is designed to provide:
1. A system of measuring current skill levels that will give tennis players a quantitative assessment of his/her general ability. This enables players with similar skill or abilities to easily arrange compatible and competitive play.
2. A system to manage placement of players within NTRP levels and formats to promote generally level competition in various leagues and tournaments.

Many factors of play can not be reflected in NTRP calculations, such as:
> Physical condition of players at time of match
> Court conditions: sun, wind, temperature
> Styles of play
> Preferences of surface
> Strengths of players: physical, mental, strategy
> Players playing the "match of their life"
> Players playing far below current skill level
This emphasizes the necessity to address ratings in ranges, not as an absolute number that specifically identifies a level at a particular time.

The system using NTRP levels as a range to manage play has been extremely successful in the last 25 years. We believe that providing ratings in tenths or hundredths can be misleading and can also lead to manipulation of match results. For these reasons we do not provide NTRP information more detailed than that now available.

Rating Benchmark Identification
S - Self-rate
A - Appeal
B - Benchmark
C - Computer
D - Dynamic
M - Mixed Exclusive Year-End Rating


Taken from the USTA Site

At 56ers , we already started the NTRP rating last sat. during the PTO class C tournament we will post the corresponding ratings of the players who participated in the said tournament!!

Nice. Let us know mga observations nyo. We'll make 56ers the pilot for NTRP Rating.

[Fabs]

booYAH!!! i smell something big about to happen, hehehe!!! wait wait wait its already happening hehhee.

[Addie_56ers]

This is the reason why I think that the ladder is more suitable for our case.

NTRP Language
It is the current policy of the USTA to publish NTRP ratings only in half-point levels (3.5, 4.0, 4.5, etc). NTRP ratings are intended to indicate the player's minimum level for registration, not to finitely measure one player against another, or to use for strength alignment within a team.

The NTRP system calculates current ratings based on the ratings that the players have generated coming into a match combined with the results of that match. A player's rating may go up or down as the season progresses and so might the ratings of partners and opponents. But, ratings are not stand-alone measurements, they must be considered in relation to other NTRP information to which they are linked.

The NTRP is designed to provide:
1. A system of measuring current skill levels that will give tennis players a quantitative assessment of his/her general ability. This enables players with similar skill or abilities to easily arrange compatible and competitive play.
2. A system to manage placement of players within NTRP levels and formats to promote generally level competition in various leagues and tournaments.

Many factors of play can not be reflected in NTRP calculations, such as:
> Physical condition of players at time of match
> Court conditions: sun, wind, temperature
> Styles of play
> Preferences of surface
> Strengths of players: physical, mental, strategy
> Players playing the "match of their life"
> Players playing far below current skill level
This emphasizes the necessity to address ratings in ranges, not as an absolute number that specifically identifies a level at a particular time.

The system using NTRP levels as a range to manage play has been extremely successful in the last 25 years. We believe that providing ratings in tenths or hundredths can be misleading and can also lead to manipulation of match results. For these reasons we do not provide NTRP information more detailed than that now available.

Rating Benchmark Identification
S - Self-rate
A - Appeal
B - Benchmark
C - Computer
D - Dynamic
M - Mixed Exclusive Year-End Rating


Taken from the USTA Site

At 56ers , we already started the NTRP rating last sat. during the PTO class C tournament we will post the corresponding ratings of the players who participated in the said tournament!!

Nice. Let us know mga observations nyo. We'll make 56ers the pilot for NTRP Rating.

im just waiting for the inputs of the raters.. then i will post it na!

[Ace]

Thanks Sir Addie, you're the best 

Nga pala Sir Addie, tanong ko lang if you record all of your matches at 56ers?  Kasi we can also analyze the performance of a player on a particular NTRP level.  Kunyari laging panalo sa 3.0 ung player tapos ung score laging 6-0, 6-0... we can consider moving him/her up to the next level sa next season

[Ace]

Nung binasa ko ulit ung each NTRP levels, realize ko na medyo vague at subject to different interpretation yung mga levels.  Siguro let's add a more definite description para clear (concentrate lang tayo sa 2.5-4.0 kasi dun karamihan):

For example sa serve:
2.5 - Maraming double faults
3.0 - Few double faults pero not enough pace on the 1st and 2nd serve
3.5 - Can hit ace on 1st serve but not enough pace on the 2nd serve
4.0 - Can hit ace on 1st serve and aggresive 2nd serve

Pero ang TRUE TEST talga para malaman kung tama yung level mo is if you can play COMPETITIVELY against players on the same level.

Tska keep in mind kahit mababa yung rating mo, you can always play tournaments on the next level (although not the other way around).

[LitoGarcia]

Nung binasa ko ulit ung each NTRP levels, realize ko na medyo vague at subject to different interpretation yung mga levels.  Siguro let's add a more definite description para clear (concentrate lang tayo sa 2.5-4.0 kasi dun karamihan):

For example sa serve:
2.5 - Maraming double faults
3.0 - Few double faults pero not enough pace on the 1st and 2nd serve
3.5 - Can hit ace on 1st serve but not enough pace on the 2nd serve
4.0 - Can hit ace on 1st serve and aggresive 2nd serve

Pero ang TRUE TEST talga para malaman kung tama yung level mo is if you can play COMPETITIVELY against players on the same level.

Tska keep in mind kahit mababa yung rating mo, you can always play tournaments on the next level (although not the other way around).

Question lang....

Diba dun sa NTRP rating eh kasama yung forehand and backhand strokes?

Pano natin ma re rate ang isang player if he consider his forehand na let us say 4.0.
Pero yung backhand niya e nasa 3.0 pa lang?

kasi when we says na NTRP rating eh i'm considering yung nakalagay talaga as rating ng forehand, backhand, service... etc.

just my 2 cents.

[Addie_56ers]

Thanks Sir Addie, you're the best 

Nga pala Sir Addie, tanong ko lang if you record all of your matches at 56ers?  Kasi we can also analyze the performance of a player on a particular NTRP level.  Kunyari laging panalo sa 3.0 ung player tapos ung score laging 6-0, 6-0... we can consider moving him/her up to the next level sa next season

Yes Ace  wait ka nga namin last sat! ,eh heheh para sa inputs mo! heheh di bale sa class B sana makarating ka!.. Re sa question mo if a particularplayer always wins ,we can set a criteria where in ,if he wins 2 consecutive tournaments ,at his level, we can elevate his points to the next level, meaning he can no longer compete at the same level, where he was before!.. we are deliberating ,to convert the NTRP rating to a much simple... Beginners, C- ,C B- B, A, and PRO... that way we can accurately gauge the performance of each player ,, but still we will be using as guide the NTRP guidelines!... your inputs please!!!

[Darkwing]

Nung binasa ko ulit ung each NTRP levels, realize ko na medyo vague at subject to different interpretation yung mga levels.  Siguro let's add a more definite description para clear (concentrate lang tayo sa 2.5-4.0 kasi dun karamihan):

For example sa serve:
2.5 - Maraming double faults
3.0 - Few double faults pero not enough pace on the 1st and 2nd serve
3.5 - Can hit ace on 1st serve but not enough pace on the 2nd serve
4.0 - Can hit ace on 1st serve and aggresive 2nd serve

Pero ang TRUE TEST talga para malaman kung tama yung level mo is if you can play COMPETITIVELY against players on the same level.

Tska keep in mind kahit mababa yung rating mo, you can always play tournaments on the next level (although not the other way around).

Question lang....

Diba dun sa NTRP rating eh kasama yung forehand and backhand strokes?

Pano natin ma re rate ang isang player if he consider his forehand na let us say 4.0.
Pero yung backhand niya e nasa 3.0 pa lang?

kasi when we says na NTRP rating eh i'm considering yung nakalagay talaga as rating ng forehand, backhand, service... etc.

just my 2 cents.

Bro Lito:

NTRP Rating is an overall thing. What is assessed is your overall level of play not specific shots.

[Addie_56ers]

Nung binasa ko ulit ung each NTRP levels, realize ko na medyo vague at subject to different interpretation yung mga levels.  Siguro let's add a more definite description para clear (concentrate lang tayo sa 2.5-4.0 kasi dun karamihan):

For example sa serve:
2.5 - Maraming double faults
3.0 - Few double faults pero not enough pace on the 1st and 2nd serve
3.5 - Can hit ace on 1st serve but not enough pace on the 2nd serve
4.0 - Can hit ace on 1st serve and aggresive 2nd serve

Pero ang TRUE TEST talga para malaman kung tama yung level mo is if you can play COMPETITIVELY against players on the same level.

Tska keep in mind kahit mababa yung rating mo, you can always play tournaments on the next level (although not the other way around).

Question lang....

Diba dun sa NTRP rating eh kasama yung forehand and backhand strokes?

Pano natin ma re rate ang isang player if he consider his forehand na let us say 4.0.
Pero yung backhand niya e nasa 3.0 pa lang?

kasi when we says na NTRP rating eh i'm considering yung nakalagay talaga as rating ng forehand, backhand, service... etc.

just my 2 cents.

Bro Lito:

NTRP Rating is an overall thing. What is assessed is your overall level of play not specific shots.

INPUTS PLEASE!!!

[penny_hardaway]

this might help.

http://www.doittennis.com/knowledge-center/ntrp.php

Know Your NTRP Rating SystemNational Tennis Rating Program (NTRP)

The National Tennis Rating Program (NTRP) is the official system for determining the levels of competition for the USTA League Program. As a competitive, or at least serious, tennis player, you should know where you fall on this rating scale. Why? It will help you find playing partners who more closely match your play level and make for better, more interesting tennis. It also will help you select an appropriate tennis racquet, as most manufactures indicate the NTRP level the racquet is designed for.

PURPOSE

The primary goal of the program is to help all tennis players enjoy the game by providing a method of classifying skill levels for more compatible matches, group lessons, league play, tournaments and other programs.

GUIDELINES

The rating categories are generalizations about skill levels. You may find that you actually play above or below the category that best describes your skill level, depending on your competitive ability. The category you choose is not meant to be permanent, but may be adjusted as your skills change or as your match play demonstrates the need for reclassification. Ultimately your rating is based upon match results.

Players must rate themselves in accordance with the NTRP. When players are rating themselves and they question at which level they should play, they should place themselves in the higher level of play.

It is important that you are honest in evaluating your level of ability. Players who are good athletes and/or intend to spend a great deal of time taking lessons and practicing should be aware that their improvement may be significant enough to surpass their original self-rated level. All players are subject to disqualification from their current level if they are playing at too low an NTRP level and consequently win three championships in one year. Players should aspire to improve their skills by playing against opponents who have similar or better skills than they have and not focus on beating other, less skilled, players. In an effort to avoid disqualification, you should place yourself at the higher level of play.

TO PLACE YOURSELF:

A. Begin with 1.5. Read all categories carefully and then decide which one best describes your present ability level. Be certain that you qualify on all points of all preceding levels as well as those in the level you choose.

B. When rating yourself assume you are playing against a player of the same gender and the same ability.

GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS OF VARIOUS PLAYING LEVELS

1.5

This player has limited experience and is still working primarily on getting the ball into play.

2.0

This player needs on-court experience. This player has obvious stroke weaknesses but is familiar with basic positions for singles and doubles play.

2.5

This player is learning to judge where the ball is going although court coverage is weak. Can sustain a short rally of slow pace with other players of the same ability.

3.0

This player is fairly consistent when hitting medium paced shorts, but is not comfortable with all strokes and lacks execution when trying for directional control, depth, or power. Most common doubles formation is one-up, one-back.

3.5

This player has achieved improved stroke dependability with directional control on moderate shots, but still lacks depth and variety. This player exhibits more aggressive net play, has improved court coverage, and is developing teamwork in doubles.

4.0

This player has dependable strokes, including directional control and depth on both forehand and backhand sides on moderate shots, plus the ability to use lobs, overheads, approach shots and volleys with some success. This player occasionally forces errors when serving. Rallies may be lost due to impatience. Teamwork in doubles is evident.

4.5

This player has begun to master the use of power and spins and is beginning to handle pace, has sound footwork, can control depth of shots, and is beginning to vary game plan according to opponents. This player can hit first serves with power and accuracy and place the second serve. This player tends to over hit on difficult shots. Aggressive net play is common in doubles.

5.0

This player has good shot anticipation and frequently has an outstanding shot or attribute around which a game may be structured. This player can regularly hit winners or force errors off of short balls and can put away volleys, can successfully execute lobs, drop shots, half volleys, overhead smashes, and has good depth and spin on most 2nd serves.

5.5

This player has developed power and/or consistency as a major weapon. This player can vary strategies and styles of play in a competitive situation and hits dependable shots in a stress situation.

6.0 to 7.0

The 6.0-player typically has had intensive training for national tournament competition at the junior and collegiate levels and has obtained a sectional and/or national ranking. The 7.0-player is a world class player.

[LEO_56ers]

Sa mga nabasa ko napaka complicated toh reg sa rating.. if ever kung ako mag rate sa mga
nakita at kilala ko maglaro lalo na sa 56ers tc and guest (Fyi di ako official at qualified rater huh Sample lang  )
Kung i base ko sa classification ng club namin!!

Beginner 2.0- 2-5
class c    3.0-3.5
class b    4.0- 4.5
class a    5.0-5.5
National Collegiate players - 6.0 Kowch Bob, Diplomat(cris) sila pa lang nakita maglaro eh.. hehehe
World Class players 7.0 Slp, oldskul, Nino A

Sa mga members natin na nakita ko na reg sa tournament dito..

Roldan (Kilua) - 3.0
Arnel   (tc)   - 3. 0
cathy  - 2.0
marky - 2.5
pauj  -  2.5
macky - 2.5
Pol - 4.0
Meng - 3.5
wina- 3.5
jun - 3-5
yum - 3-5
jc- 3-5
moon 3-0
jeje - 3-0
Ekyo - 3-0

For my Observation Only.. peace 


 

[mikki_blinkme]

wow! ang tataas nyo na thunders a. congrats. sana ganyan din ako at least 3.0 pero tingin ko sarili ko 2.5 lang o below pa. hehehe. sana pa-rate na rin ako. sir leo pano kung nagkataong off day sa rating? wawa naman.  ganun ako lagi kala mo laging may regla. 

[Tecnifibre_Guy]

Sa mga nabasa ko napaka complicated toh reg sa rating.. if ever kung ako mag rate sa mga
nakita at kilala ko maglaro lalo na sa 56ers tc and guest (Fyi di ako official at qualified rater huh Sample lang  )
Kung i base ko sa classification ng club namin!!

Beginner 2.0- 2-5
class c    3.0-3.5
class b    4.0- 4.5
class a    5.0-5.5
National Collegiate players - 6.0 Kowch Bob, Diplomat(cris) sila pa lang nakita maglaro eh.. hehehe
World Class players 7.0 Slp, oldskul, Nino A

Sa mga members natin na nakita ko na reg sa tournament dito..

Roldan (Kilua) - 3.0
Arnel   (tc)   - 3. 0
cathy - 2.5 - 2.0
marky - 2.5
pauj  -  2.5
macky - 2.5
Pol - 4.0
Meng - 3.5
wina- 3.5
jun - 3-5
yum - 3-5
jc- 3-5
moon 3-0
jeje - 3-0
Ekyo - 3-0

For my Observation Only.. peace 


 

Nyak ang self rate ko is 4.0  Wala kasi akong sound footwork ngayon hahaha!

wow! ang tataas nyo na thunders a. congrats. sana ganyan din ako at least 3.0 pero tingin ko sarili ko 2.5 lang o below pa. hehehe. sana pa-rate na rin ako. sir leo pano kung nagkataong off day sa rating? wawa naman.  laugh ganun ako lagi kala mo laging may regla.  laugh

Maganda to actually magkakaroon ka ng goal... if you think that you are 2.5

2.5

This player is learning to judge where the ball is going although court coverage is weak. Can sustain a short rally of slow pace with other

Then you can spire to improve gradually instead of going for winners and bigger strokes you can spire to be more consistent with your medium paced shots... and you can already level up to 3.0

If you think about it a guy who is consistent with his medium paced shots should beat a 2.5 player 

In my opinion sas maganda pakinggan yung point system na numerical instead of the letter system we have in place and the NTRP rating has set a guideline already that even normal players can follow so they would know what to improve on their own game to level up   

What do you guys think?

[Addie_56ers]

Sa mga nabasa ko napaka complicated toh reg sa rating.. if ever kung ako mag rate sa mga
nakita at kilala ko maglaro lalo na sa 56ers tc and guest (Fyi di ako official at qualified rater huh Sample lang  )
Kung i base ko sa classification ng club namin!!

Beginner 2.0- 2-5
class c    3.0-3.5
class b    4.0- 4.5
class a    5.0-5.5
National Collegiate players - 6.0 Kowch Bob, Diplomat(cris) sila pa lang nakita maglaro eh.. hehehe
World Class players 7.0 Slp, oldskul, Nino A

Sa mga members natin na nakita ko na reg sa tournament dito..

Roldan (Kilua) - 3.0
Arnel   (tc)   - 3. 0
cathy - 2.5 - 2.0
marky - 2.5
pauj  -  2.5
macky - 2.5
Pol - 4.0
Meng - 3.5
wina- 3.5
jun - 3-5
yum - 3-5
jc- 3-5
moon 3-0
jeje - 3-0
Ekyo - 3-0

For my Observation Only.. peace 


 

Nyak ang self rate ko is 4.0  Wala kasi akong sound footwork ngayon hahaha!

wow! ang tataas nyo na thunders a. congrats. sana ganyan din ako at least 3.0 pero tingin ko sarili ko 2.5 lang o below pa. hehehe. sana pa-rate na rin ako. sir leo pano kung nagkataong off day sa rating? wawa naman.  laugh ganun ako lagi kala mo laging may regla.  laugh

Maganda to actually magkakaroon ka ng goal... if you think that you are 2.5

2.5

This player is learning to judge where the ball is going although court coverage is weak. Can sustain a short rally of slow pace with other

Then you can spire to improve gradually instead of going for winners and bigger strokes you can spire to be more consistent with your medium paced shots... and you can already level up to 3.0

If you think about it a guy who is consistent with his medium paced shots should beat a 2.5 player 

In my opinion sas maganda pakinggan yung point system na numerical instead of the letter system we have in place and the NTRP rating has set a guideline already that even normal players can follow so they would know what to improve on their own game to level up   

What do you guys think?

TG ang sundan natin ,yung sa 56 na ranking ,pero base sa NTRP katulad ng ginawa ni Leo ,,yun na yon!!! 

[jov]

wow! ang tataas nyo na thunders a. congrats. sana ganyan din ako at least 3.0 pero tingin ko sarili ko 2.5 lang o below pa. hehehe. sana pa-rate na rin ako. sir leo pano kung nagkataong off day sa rating? wawa naman.  ganun ako lagi kala mo laging may regla. 

yes mamaw na talaga sa tennis mga thunder 

[Addie_56ers]

wow! ang tataas nyo na thunders a. congrats. sana ganyan din ako at least 3.0 pero tingin ko sarili ko 2.5 lang o below pa. hehehe. sana pa-rate na rin ako. sir leo pano kung nagkataong off day sa rating? wawa naman.  ganun ako lagi kala mo laging may regla. 

yes mamaw na talaga sa tennis mga thunder 

LALO NA SIGURO KAYO NI MIKS JOV! MAS MATAAS! ANG RATING!!!

[Addie_56ers]

Sa mga nabasa ko napaka complicated toh reg sa rating.. if ever kung ako mag rate sa mga
nakita at kilala ko maglaro lalo na sa 56ers tc and guest (Fyi di ako official at qualified rater huh Sample lang  )
Kung i base ko sa classification ng club namin!!

Beginner 2.0- 2-5
class c    3.0-3.5
class b    4.0- 4.5
class a    5.0-5.5
National Collegiate players - 6.0 Kowch Bob, Diplomat(cris) sila pa lang nakita maglaro eh.. hehehe
World Class players 7.0 Slp, oldskul, Nino A

Sa mga members natin na nakita ko na reg sa tournament dito..

Roldan (Kilua) - 3.0
Arnel   (tc)   - 3. 0
cathy - 2.5 - 2.0
marky - 2.5
pauj  -  2.5
macky - 2.5
Pol - 4.0
Meng - 3.5
wina- 3.5
jun - 3-5
yum - 3-5
jc- 3-5
moon 3-0
jeje - 3-0
Ekyo - 3-0

For my Observation Only.. peace 


 

Leo ,based the ratings .on 56ers criteria ,so more or less the said results are final already!

[jov]

wow! ang tataas nyo na thunders a. congrats. sana ganyan din ako at least 3.0 pero tingin ko sarili ko 2.5 lang o below pa. hehehe. sana pa-rate na rin ako. sir leo pano kung nagkataong off day sa rating? wawa naman.  ganun ako lagi kala mo laging may regla. 

yes mamaw na talaga sa tennis mga thunder 

LALO NA SIGURO KAYO NI MIKS JOV! MAS MATAAS! ANG RATING!!!

nakow di sir, 1.5 parin siguro ako, si mikki sir mataas na yan! 

[Addie_56ers]

wow! ang tataas nyo na thunders a. congrats. sana ganyan din ako at least 3.0 pero tingin ko sarili ko 2.5 lang o below pa. hehehe. sana pa-rate na rin ako. sir leo pano kung nagkataong off day sa rating? wawa naman.  ganun ako lagi kala mo laging may regla. 

yes mamaw na talaga sa tennis mga thunder 

LALO NA SIGURO KAYO NI MIKS JOV! MAS MATAAS! ANG RATING!!!

nakow di sir, 1.5 parin siguro ako, si mikki sir mataas na yan! 

Jov! pag nag invite ka uli dyan sa inyo magagawan ka na ng rating! 

[LitoGarcia]

Nung binasa ko ulit ung each NTRP levels, realize ko na medyo vague at subject to different interpretation yung mga levels.  Siguro let's add a more definite description para clear (concentrate lang tayo sa 2.5-4.0 kasi dun karamihan):

For example sa serve:
2.5 - Maraming double faults
3.0 - Few double faults pero not enough pace on the 1st and 2nd serve
3.5 - Can hit ace on 1st serve but not enough pace on the 2nd serve
4.0 - Can hit ace on 1st serve and aggresive 2nd serve

Pero ang TRUE TEST talga para malaman kung tama yung level mo is if you can play COMPETITIVELY against players on the same level.

Tska keep in mind kahit mababa yung rating mo, you can always play tournaments on the next level (although not the other way around).

Question lang....

Diba dun sa NTRP rating eh kasama yung forehand and backhand strokes?

Pano natin ma re rate ang isang player if he consider his forehand na let us say 4.0.
Pero yung backhand niya e nasa 3.0 pa lang?

kasi when we says na NTRP rating eh i'm considering yung nakalagay talaga as rating ng forehand, backhand, service... etc.

just my 2 cents.

Bro Lito:

NTRP Rating is an overall thing. What is assessed is your overall level of play not specific shots.

Yun nga bro so mahirap talagang mag rate kung pansarili lang natin, kailangan ng talagang nakaka alam.

But this will definitely help us sa group. Thanks to sir Leo for rating other players. With this, masisimulan na ang tunay na bakbakan.

Cheers!

[mikki_blinkme]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

[Addie_56ers]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

guys ang gagawin natin mag experiment ,all those players that were rated ,accordingly ,we will make a tournament just for them ,for us to gauge kung effective ang ginawang ratings.. personally , alam ko mag work out yon , kasi nagawa nanamin dito sa 56ers

[mikki_blinkme]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

guys ang gagawin natin mag experiment ,all those players that were rated ,accordingly ,we will make a tournament just for them ,for us to gauge kung effective ang ginawang ratings.. personally , alam ko mag work out yon , kasi nagawa nanamin dito sa 56ers

wow sir addie nice idea. napaka active tlg ng 56ers. tnx tnx very very much. kung makuha ko na rating ko pwede din akong sumubok lumaban sa .5 na mas mataas sa level na makukuha ko. parang bang age group na 16 under na sumasali din sa 18 under.

[Darkwing]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

Good plan Miks. 3.5 lang NTRP ko sa Ladder so pwede mo ako subukan.

[mikki_blinkme]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

Good plan Miks. 3.5 lang NTRP ko sa Ladder so pwede mo ako subukan.

 

[mikki_blinkme]

Maganda to actually magkakaroon ka ng goal... if you think that you are 2.5

2.5

This player is learning to judge where the ball is going although court coverage is weak. Can sustain a short rally of slow pace with other

Then you can spire to improve gradually instead of going for winners and bigger strokes you can spire to be more consistent with your medium paced shots... and you can already level up to 3.0

If you think about it a guy who is consistent with his medium paced shots should beat a 2.5 player 

In my opinion sas maganda pakinggan yung point system na numerical instead of the letter system we have in place and the NTRP rating has set a guideline already that even normal players can follow so they would know what to improve on their own game to level up   

What do you guys think?

ok na ok to. well sa tingin ko di ako consistent. super erratic and error prone ako. mostly risky mga shots ko. risk or nothing ako. Hahahaha!

[LitoGarcia]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

Good plan Miks. 3.5 lang NTRP ko sa Ladder so pwede mo ako subukan.

oo mikki after darkwing ako namn 3.5 din lang ako.

[mikki_blinkme]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

wahahaha! nako pano to? teka sino ba talaga nagsasabi ng totoo? ako 2.5 lang tlg tingin ko sa sarili ko e. o kaya 2.0.

pa-rate tyo sa anibs.
Good plan Miks. 3.5 lang NTRP ko sa Ladder so pwede mo ako subukan.

oo mikki after darkwing ako namn 3.5 din lang ako.

[Ace]

Thanks Sir Addie, you're the best 

Nga pala Sir Addie, tanong ko lang if you record all of your matches at 56ers?  Kasi we can also analyze the performance of a player on a particular NTRP level.  Kunyari laging panalo sa 3.0 ung player tapos ung score laging 6-0, 6-0... we can consider moving him/her up to the next level sa next season

Yes Ace  wait ka nga namin last sat! ,eh heheh para sa inputs mo! heheh di bale sa class B sana makarating ka!.. Re sa question mo if a particularplayer always wins ,we can set a criteria where in ,if he wins 2 consecutive tournaments ,at his level, we can elevate his points to the next level, meaning he can no longer compete at the same level, where he was before!.. we are deliberating ,to convert the NTRP rating to a much simple... Beginners, C- ,C B- B, A, and PRO... that way we can accurately gauge the performance of each player ,, but still we will be using as guide the NTRP guidelines!... your inputs please!!!

Yup sana maka punta nako sa B tourney hehe.  Yup pde rin i-convert na lang from Old system to NTRP rating... using the NTRP as guidelines since maayos naman ung system ng 56ers 

[jov]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

Good plan Miks. 3.5 lang NTRP ko sa Ladder so pwede mo ako subukan.

oo mikki after darkwing ako namn 3.5 din lang ako.

nakow sir lito, im sure mas mataas pa kayo ni DW sa 3.5 

[palaboyako]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

Good plan Miks. 3.5 lang NTRP ko sa Ladder so pwede mo ako subukan.

oo mikki after darkwing ako namn 3.5 din lang ako.

Bos Mik ako din 3.5 rating magpapabook na ako sa iyo. Pila balde kay Bos Mik.

[jov]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

Good plan Miks. 3.5 lang NTRP ko sa Ladder so pwede mo ako subukan.

oo mikki after darkwing ako namn 3.5 din lang ako.

Bos Mik ako din 3.5 rating magpapabook na ako sa iyo. Pila balde kay Bos Mik.

ahahaha, sila mikki 3.5, try mo din ako 1.5 

[racketwiz]

Ace is correct.  NTRP ratings are not printed on the USTA membership cards but is available on the member’s online profile.  Players who are first-time USTA league participants do a self-rate initially.  Once the league matches commence, the USTA then uses a dynamic NTRP rating where each match result and the opponent played is factored into the equation.  When a player is calculated to be playing clearly above his level, he is automatically disqualified, all previous matches played will be annulled and he will be bumped up to the next level.  He is not allowed to play any league match until the following season where he must join the appropriately rated team.  If a player is found to be playing below his level, either he will be bumped down when the end-of-year ratings come out or he may appeal to have his rating bumped down for the next season.

One of the things that our USTA leagues team captain did in forming new 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 teams is that he held a “tryout” for new prospective team players.  From his existing team, he would designate benchmark players at 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0.  All new team prospects will initially be 3.5s, which perhaps the average players are anyway.

Prospects play against benchmark 3.5s in either a super tie-break set if there a lot of players, or a no-ad pro set if there a manageable few.  The super tie-break or the no-ad pro set introduces immediate pressure on the players to play their shots right because in an abbreviated match like this, there is very little room for error.  It also gives an insight into the mental aspect of the player, to see how he deals with pressure situations.  In my opinion, this might be a good procedure to establish the initial ratings.

Prospects who lose badly gets bumped down to 3.0, those who hold their own win or lose stays at 3.5, and those who beat 3.5s by a considerable margin gets bumped up to 4.0.  To confirm the ratings, prospects with preliminary ratings play the corresponding benchmarks in a best of 3 set match.  Based on the results, the prospects ratings either stays or is adjusted accordingly.  Ratings are then adjusted at year’s end based on the year’s overall performance.

I’ve watched sectional league championships at 4.5s and 5.0s here, and college matches as well, and these guys are unbelievable.  Using these players as benchmarks, I would say Nino can’t be over 6.0, and our national players can’t be over 6.5.  Currently, I think a pro player deserves a 7.0 rating only when he is ranked at least 1000 on the pro circuit.  But I digress.  This last comment has nothing to do with what we’re trying to accomplish in our little group, and it’s just an opinion I wanted to share.  No offense or disrespect meant to the players concerned.

[Addie_56ers]

Ace is correct.  NTRP ratings are not printed on the USTA membership cards but is available on the member’s online profile.  Players who are first-time USTA league participants do a self-rate initially.  Once the league matches commence, the USTA then uses a dynamic NTRP rating where each match result and the opponent played is factored into the equation.  When a player is calculated to be playing clearly above his level, he is automatically disqualified, all previous matches played will be annulled and he will be bumped up to the next level.  He is not allowed to play any league match until the following season where he must join the appropriately rated team.  If a player is found to be playing below his level, either he will be bumped down when the end-of-year ratings come out or he may appeal to have his rating bumped down for the next season.

One of the things that our USTA leagues team captain did in forming new 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 teams is that he held a “tryout” for new prospective team players.  From his existing team, he would designate benchmark players at 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0.  All new team prospects will initially be 3.5s, which perhaps the average players are anyway.

Prospects play against benchmark 3.5s in either a super tie-break set if there a lot of players, or a no-ad pro set if there a manageable few.  The super tie-break or the no-ad pro set introduces immediate pressure on the players to play their shots right because in an abbreviated match like this, there is very little room for error.  It also gives an insight into the mental aspect of the player, to see how he deals with pressure situations.  In my opinion, this might be a good procedure to establish the initial ratings.

Prospects who lose badly gets bumped down to 3.0, those who hold their own win or lose stays at 3.5, and those who beat 3.5s by a considerable margin gets bumped up to 4.0.  To confirm the ratings, prospects with preliminary ratings play the corresponding benchmarks in a best of 3 set match.  Based on the results, the prospects ratings either stays or is adjusted accordingly.  Ratings are then adjusted at year’s end based on the year’s overall performance.

I’ve watched sectional league championships at 4.5s and 5.0s here, and college matches as well, and these guys are unbelievable.  Using these players as benchmarks, I would say Nino can’t be over 6.0, and our national players can’t be over 6.5.  Currently, I think a pro player deserves a 7.0 rating only when he is ranked at least 1000 on the pro circuit.  But I digress.  This last comment has nothing to do with what we’re trying to accomplish in our little group, and it’s just an opinion I wanted to share.  No offense or disrespect meant to the players concerned.

maraming salamat Ricky ,sa inputs!

[commander ians]

yeah! ui jov ikaw mas mataas. tumataas lang sakin ngayon yung timbang ko. hahaha! teka di ko rin kasi gets yung slow, medium, fast or high paced shots. kasi baka sa tingin ko fast pero sa katunayan medium o slow pa pala yun. hehehe. Pero ok din to at least may rating malalaman natin level of play natin para pag naglaban e fair kasi ka-level lang ang maglalaban.

try kong kumalaban ng 2.5 then 3.0 and maximum of 3.5 ntrp.

Good plan Miks. 3.5 lang NTRP ko sa Ladder so pwede mo ako subukan.

oo mikki after darkwing ako namn 3.5 din lang ako.

hehehe 

[Tecnifibre_Guy]

Ace is correct.  NTRP ratings are not printed on the USTA membership cards but is available on the member’s online profile.  Players who are first-time USTA league participants do a self-rate initially.  Once the league matches commence, the USTA then uses a dynamic NTRP rating where each match result and the opponent played is factored into the equation.  When a player is calculated to be playing clearly above his level, he is automatically disqualified, all previous matches played will be annulled and he will be bumped up to the next level.  He is not allowed to play any league match until the following season where he must join the appropriately rated team.  If a player is found to be playing below his level, either he will be bumped down when the end-of-year ratings come out or he may appeal to have his rating bumped down for the next season.

One of the things that our USTA leagues team captain did in forming new 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 teams is that he held a “tryout” for new prospective team players.  From his existing team, he would designate benchmark players at 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0.  All new team prospects will initially be 3.5s, which perhaps the average players are anyway.

Prospects play against benchmark 3.5s in either a super tie-break set if there a lot of players, or a no-ad pro set if there a manageable few.  The super tie-break or the no-ad pro set introduces immediate pressure on the players to play their shots right because in an abbreviated match like this, there is very little room for error.  It also gives an insight into the mental aspect of the player, to see how he deals with pressure situations.  In my opinion, this might be a good procedure to establish the initial ratings.

Prospects who lose badly gets bumped down to 3.0, those who hold their own win or lose stays at 3.5, and those who beat 3.5s by a considerable margin gets bumped up to 4.0.  To confirm the ratings, prospects with preliminary ratings play the corresponding benchmarks in a best of 3 set match.  Based on the results, the prospects ratings either stays or is adjusted accordingly.  Ratings are then adjusted at year’s end based on the year’s overall performance.

I’ve watched sectional league championships at 4.5s and 5.0s here, and college matches as well, and these guys are unbelievable.  Using these players as benchmarks, I would say Nino can’t be over 6.0, and our national players can’t be over 6.5.  Currently, I think a pro player deserves a 7.0 rating only when he is ranked at least 1000 on the pro circuit.  But I digress.  This last comment has nothing to do with what we’re trying to accomplish in our little group, and it’s just an opinion I wanted to share.  No offense or disrespect meant to the players concerned.

Thanks for the input RW.  Medyo mataas nga level dyan sa US, but in any case your input has been very helpful in discerning the different classes and how we can go about rating individuals  

[Addie_56ers]

Sa mga nabasa ko napaka complicated toh reg sa rating.. if ever kung ako mag rate sa mga
nakita at kilala ko maglaro lalo na sa 56ers tc and guest (Fyi di ako official at qualified rater huh Sample lang  )
Kung i base ko sa classification ng club namin!!

Beginner 2.0- 2-5
class c    3.0-3.5
class b    4.0- 4.5
class a    5.0-5.5
National Collegiate players - 6.0 Kowch Bob, Diplomat(cris) sila pa lang nakita maglaro eh.. hehehe
World Class players 7.0 Slp, oldskul, Nino A

Sa mga members natin na nakita ko na reg sa tournament dito..

Roldan (Kilua) - 3.0
Arnel   (tc)   - 3. 0
cathy - 2.5 - 2.0
marky - 2.5
pauj  -  2.5
macky - 2.5
Pol - 4.0
Meng - 3.5
wina- 3.5
jun - 3-5
yum - 3-5
jc- 3-5
moon 3-0
jeje - 3-0
Ekyo - 3-0

For my Observation Only.. peace 


 

Leo ,based the ratings .on 56ers criteria ,so more or less the said results are final already!

this is the official ratings of class C players that participated in the tournament! ..take note .. para next time na magkaron ng another class C tournament  may basis na organizers ,regarding entries classifications!

[djokoVits]

wow  buti p cla may ntrp rating na! pwede rin po parate bisita po aq dyan soon 

[Addie_56ers]

wow  buti p cla may ntrp rating na! pwede rin po parate bisita po aq dyan soon 

All the time Vito ! pasyal ka lang! tapos pa singles ka sa isang class C ,para ma rate ka!!!

[djokoVits]

cge po isama ko pa mga class C ng heavens armada  tnx sir addie

[Darkwing]

Ace is correct.  NTRP ratings are not printed on the USTA membership cards but is available on the member’s online profile.  Players who are first-time USTA league participants do a self-rate initially.  Once the league matches commence, the USTA then uses a dynamic NTRP rating where each match result and the opponent played is factored into the equation.  When a player is calculated to be playing clearly above his level, he is automatically disqualified, all previous matches played will be annulled and he will be bumped up to the next level.  He is not allowed to play any league match until the following season where he must join the appropriately rated team.  If a player is found to be playing below his level, either he will be bumped down when the end-of-year ratings come out or he may appeal to have his rating bumped down for the next season.

One of the things that our USTA leagues team captain did in forming new 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 teams is that he held a “tryout” for new prospective team players.  From his existing team, he would designate benchmark players at 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0.  All new team prospects will initially be 3.5s, which perhaps the average players are anyway.

Prospects play against benchmark 3.5s in either a super tie-break set if there a lot of players, or a no-ad pro set if there a manageable few.  The super tie-break or the no-ad pro set introduces immediate pressure on the players to play their shots right because in an abbreviated match like this, there is very little room for error.  It also gives an insight into the mental aspect of the player, to see how he deals with pressure situations.  In my opinion, this might be a good procedure to establish the initial ratings.

Prospects who lose badly gets bumped down to 3.0, those who hold their own win or lose stays at 3.5, and those who beat 3.5s by a considerable margin gets bumped up to 4.0.  To confirm the ratings, prospects with preliminary ratings play the corresponding benchmarks in a best of 3 set match.  Based on the results, the prospects ratings either stays or is adjusted accordingly.  Ratings are then adjusted at year’s end based on the year’s overall performance.

I’ve watched sectional league championships at 4.5s and 5.0s here, and college matches as well, and these guys are unbelievable.  Using these players as benchmarks, I would say Nino can’t be over 6.0, and our national players can’t be over 6.5.  Currently, I think a pro player deserves a 7.0 rating only when he is ranked at least 1000 on the pro circuit.  But I digress.  This last comment has nothing to do with what we’re trying to accomplish in our little group, and it’s just an opinion I wanted to share.  No offense or disrespect meant to the players concerned.

Thanks Rick.

Maybe we can glean from this input and adapt something suitable for the group's use. If you have any suggestion on how we can go about this, we'd be happy to hear more.

[Addie_56ers]

cge po isama ko pa mga class C ng heavens armada  tnx sir addie

You are welcome Vito ! isama mo sila para ma rate na!!!

[racketwiz]

Thanks Rick.

Maybe we can glean from this input and adapt something suitable for the group's use. If you have any suggestion on how we can go about this, we'd be happy to hear more.

I think Addie and the 56ers are doing a fine job of getting a rating classification established for our members.  If I understand it correctly, we already have players designated as “benchmark players” at 56ers.

Eventually, when we have established local chapters, each of them will also have designated “benchmark players” and the responsibility for rating members in their area.

I think that for the initial rating evaluation, probies would play the corresponding benchmark players in a no-ad pro set.  A pro set is short enough to force the player to get his game on, but long enough to give him a chance to recover from a bad start.  The no-ad scoring may reveal a little bit more about the probie’s mental game in pressure situations and could factor into the evaluation.

The real work begins after the initial ratings are assigned.  We can choose to have a rating period on a quarterly, semi-annual or annual basis.  During this rating period, we may have tournaments, challenge rounds or ladder matches, any or all of which would factor into a player’s rating during such period.  In these rated matches, a player may only initiate play either against his peers to maintain current rating, or play up one level to earn enough points to get a higher rating.  Of course, in friendly or social non-bearing matches, anything goes.  All told, someone has to keep track of the performance of each rated member in order to keep the ratings current.  With our membership rolls extending into the thousands, the challenge of managing member ratings will be quite a task.

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basta conversion of rating from letter to ntrp rating, hehehe pioneer ang 56ers, kudos to kuya leo! kailan kaya ako makakalaro ulit hehehe. gusto ko na mag pa rate.