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« Reply #50 on: June 17, 2009, 09:34:02 AM » |
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mukhang ito na pala ang sagot ni sbunk... and jov.  ito sa tingin ko ang "in the making" medyo malayo pa pero "in the making" lalo na kung healthy siya all the time. kaso this early, nanganganib na ang kanyang pagiging number 1! i hope makalampas siya sa QF sa Wimbledon to assure himself and retain the number one spot. tingin ko medyo mahihirapan lalo na kung di siya maka-recover 100% sa kanyang ailment. Sir Francis, the original message that I created was of course, about the subject of this thread, sinakyan ko lang ang biro ni Jov... Wahehehe... As i have said he (Roger) is a great player, NOT in the making 'cos he is already ONE OF THE GREATEST. |
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« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2009, 09:52:31 AM » |
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Federer is not one of the greatest, he is the greatest player of all time.
Nadal? still remains to be seen.
the best si graf with 20 plus slams, 4 slams and an olympic gold in one year, yun ang greatest  ---as i said before I am not Federer fan. But I strongly believe the he is the greatest male tennis player, even Sampras shares the same belief and Agassi.Pag sinabing greatest nag iisa lang, pag one of the greatest-hindi ka na greatest nun, kasi marami kayo. peace.  --akala ko sa Men's lang, yon kc ang premise ng thread. --Being injured is part of an athlete's life, hindi fault yon ng kapwa mo player. --pag ganun e di swerte lang yong pagkapanalo ni Rafa sa Wimbledon last year kc nagrerecover pa ng mono si Federer? That would be unfair for Rafa. Well there is this thing called century, decade, meaning there is a time range for everything. I may agree that federer is the greatest player OF HIS TIME, but NOT OF ALL TIME. I just wonder if Federer was born in the Great Arthur Ashe's time where there are no tennis academies that teach them techniques... Hmmm... (and i think Nadal did not formally attend one of them...  ) Even if he beats Rafa in RG (I wish he would), still Federer will just remain one of the Greatest... |
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« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2009, 09:53:14 AM » |
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korek korek ONE OF THE GREATEST. NOT THE GREATEST. Kasi di lang naman paramihan ng slams yan e. Or kung makuha man nya slams na pinakamarami di pa rin basehan yun. Iba sitwasyon at gamit NOON at NGAYON. So kung sinabi ng mga greats of all times na greatest si federer come to think of it. Of kors sasabihin tlg nila yun pangit naman pag tahimik lang sila e sa paningin ng mga pangkaraniwang manonood which is the target market ng business ng tennis sport e si federer ang greatest. ride na lang. pero kung magreresearch ka ano kaya sabi ng mga EXPERTS?  Federer is the GREATEST siguro of his own era. Kudos. |
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ui sir techni! musta? pakita ka samin sa mga eb.
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« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2009, 11:20:13 AM » |
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« Reply #56 on: June 17, 2009, 11:34:39 AM » |
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Federer is not one of the greatest, he is the greatest player of all time.
Nadal? still remains to be seen.
the best si graf with 20 plus slams, 4 slams and an olympic gold in one year, yun ang greatest ---as i said before I am not Federer fan. But I strongly believe the he is the greatest male tennis player, even Sampras shares the same belief and Agassi.Pag sinabing greatest nag iisa lang, pag one of the greatest-hindi ka na greatest nun, kasi marami kayo. peace. --akala ko sa Men's lang, yon kc ang premise ng thread. --Being injured is part of an athlete's life, hindi fault yon ng kapwa mo player. --pag ganun e di swerte lang yong pagkapanalo ni Rafa sa Wimbledon last year kc nagrerecover pa ng mono si Federer? That would be unfair for Rafa. ah akala ko men and women, , men's pala , i merely reacted on what you said that "Federer is not one of the greatest, he is the greatest player of all time", by the way, di me nagsabi na one of the greatest si fed, kasi pag greatest ang pinag usapan, for me, si graf yun, nag iisa lang din si graf, anyway, medyo ot ako, churi guys, I think Ians is right. I believe Federer is the greatest player in this era and the greatest ever in the making. If he continues to win and collect slams one after the other. His record speaks for itself no matter what the naysayers would like to belive. He's been consistently winning at Roland Garros. Yes he was defeated in last year's finals by Nadal but he was still able to make it to the finals. And that speaks a lot for his talent. |
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« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2009, 03:38:39 PM » |
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mukhang ito na pala ang sagot ni sbunk... and jov. ito sa tingin ko ang "in the making" medyo malayo pa pero "in the making" lalo na kung healthy siya all the time. kaso this early, nanganganib na ang kanyang pagiging number 1! i hope makalampas siya sa QF sa Wimbledon to assure himself and retain the number one spot. tingin ko medyo mahihirapan lalo na kung di siya maka-recover 100% sa kanyang ailment. Sir Francis, the original message that I created was of course, about the subject of this thread, sinakyan ko lang ang biro ni Jov... Wahehehe... As i have said he (Roger) is a great player, NOT in the making 'cos he is already ONE OF THE GREATEST. Ah, ok. Akala ko you meant Nadal as "The Greatest of All Time". In that case, that did not answer my earlier question: while it's obvious that federer is not your pick (and you may have your own point) so who do you consider the greatest player of all time?
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« Reply #60 on: June 17, 2009, 04:34:37 PM » |
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Question lang sa hindi naniniwalang greatest si Federer. What is needed for him to be the greatest in your perspective? Possible naman ito to be the greatest. I believe that he already is. There is just no pleasing you guys. Nadal will never surpass what Federer already achieved at this time. Nadal is young but 8 years na as a pro. He might even retire earlier from the sport. Injury usually hinders in a players career. Maybe not now but later in his career may effect. Nadal might have got the Australian open but yung effects ng pagiging kalabaw stamina nya ngayon niya nararamdaman. post ko lng ulit link ng comment ko bout Nadal. Ito na yung article. http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/5/en/deuce/january2009/federer.asphttp://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/5/en/deuce/january2009/federer2.asp“One thing Roger has in his favor is that everything comes so much easier for him,” says Lendl. “He can win points more easily. That’s never the case with Nadal, who’s more like Mats in that he has to get an opponent to miss or come up with a passing shot. Guys like Roger, McEnroe, even myself, we could hit a lot of winners, so there’s not the need to grind as much match after match.” Like Federer, Lendl had been deposed by a man who had first made his mark on clay – Mats Wilander – but in due time broadened his game to excel on all surfaces. While Nadal’s rise to the top was triggered by a win over Federer at Wimbledon, Wilander also won an epic, beating Lendl in a five-set thriller in the finals of the 1988 US Open, a victory that ended Lendl’s three-year run in New York. Wilander reached the pinnacle in ’88, but as Lendl pointed out, “that was the end of Mats,” who within a year of that US Open win was out of the Top 10 for good. |
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« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2009, 04:44:44 PM » |
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Question lang sa hindi naniniwalang greatest si Federer. What is needed for him to be the greatest in your perspective? Possible naman ito to be the greatest. I believe that he already is. There is just no pleasing you guys. Nadal will never surpass what Federer already achieved at this time. Nadal is young but 8 years na as a pro. He might even retire earlier from the sport. Injury usually hinders in a players career. Maybe not now but later in his career may effect. Nadal might have got the Australian open but yung effects ng pagiging kalabaw stamina nya ngayon niya nararamdaman. post ko lng ulit link ng comment ko bout Nadal. Ito na yung article. http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/5/en/deuce/january2009/federer.asphttp://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/5/en/deuce/january2009/federer2.asp“One thing Roger has in his favor is that everything comes so much easier for him,” says Lendl. “He can win points more easily. That’s never the case with Nadal, who’s more like Mats in that he has to get an opponent to miss or come up with a passing shot. Guys like Roger, McEnroe, even myself, we could hit a lot of winners, so there’s not the need to grind as much match after match.” Like Federer, Lendl had been deposed by a man who had first made his mark on clay – Mats Wilander – but in due time broadened his game to excel on all surfaces. While Nadal’s rise to the top was triggered by a win over Federer at Wimbledon, Wilander also won an epic, beating Lendl in a five-set thriller in the finals of the 1988 US Open, a victory that ended Lendl’s three-year run in New York. Wilander reached the pinnacle in ’88, but as Lendl pointed out, “that was the end of Mats,” who within a year of that US Open win was out of the Top 10 for good. basis naman natin slams diba, so sakin si graf ang greatest player of all time, siguro pag malampasan ni fed yun sya na greatest, pero sakin lang naman yun, its my selfish opinion , abt rafa, kahit baldado na yun idol ko parin yun, kahit lumagpak pa sa 1000 rank nya, uki |
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« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2009, 08:45:36 PM » |
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To be considered as the greatest I think you need to accomplish a combination of feats- how long a player stayed as number one, how many slams did he won, and Olympic medals and I think in the men's tour if you're going to sum it, even Federer did not won a gold medal in singles, he owns the top spot- and thats why he is the greatest. (not to mention his endorsements)
For the ladies, I agree with jov, its Graf.
and I believe we are so lucky to live in an era where we can witness this feat- to live where the greatest male tennis player is playing.
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« Reply #63 on: June 18, 2009, 10:36:54 AM » |
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That's life... We all have our own beliefs... And i believe that the children are indeed our future . I believe that someday, with the young tennis players we have today, records will be broken. And i believe that is all there is, "RECORDS TO BE BROKEN"... Then if that time comes, will you say that you were not so fortunate at all since someone has broken the records of who you say the "only greatest player"? (i would love to exeperience that too, if i am still alive)... Impossibly ironic, isn't it? But who cares? Well, i do... That is why even Nadal gets so many slams (well, not yet, maybe, or never will  ), i will still consider him just ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS... Because i believe in his ability, and i believe in what he can be; an inspiration, a tennis icon, not only to me... So if we will talk of beliefs in here, then there are no more points to disagree... Let us all be happy with what our tennis idols can be... I, thank you (bow)... |
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« Reply #64 on: June 18, 2009, 02:16:23 PM » |
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That's life... We all have our own beliefs... And i believe that the children are indeed our future . I believe that someday, with the young tennis players we have today, records will be broken. And i believe that is all there is, "RECORDS TO BE BROKEN"... Then if that time comes, will you say that you were not so fortunate at all since someone has broken the records of who you say the "only greatest player"? (i would love to exeperience that too, if i am still alive)... Impossibly ironic, isn't it? But who cares? Well, i do... That is why even Nadal gets so many slams (well, not yet, maybe, or never will ), i will still consider him just ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS... Because i believe in his ability, and i believe in what he can be; an inspiration, a tennis icon, not only to me... So if we will talk of beliefs in here, then there are no more points to disagree... Let us all be happy with what our tennis idols can be... I, thank you (bow)... This discussion is getting deeper....too deep nalunod ako hehe. peace. |
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That's life... We all have our own beliefs... And i believe that the children are indeed our future . I believe that someday, with the young tennis players we have today, records will be broken. And i believe that is all there is, "RECORDS TO BE BROKEN"... Then if that time comes, will you say that you were not so fortunate at all since someone has broken the records of who you say the "only greatest player"? (i would love to exeperience that too, if i am still alive)... Impossibly ironic, isn't it? But who cares? Well, i do... That is why even Nadal gets so many slams (well, not yet, maybe, or never will ), i will still consider him just ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS... Because i believe in his ability, and i believe in what he can be; an inspiration, a tennis icon, not only to me... So if we will talk of beliefs in here, then there are no more points to disagree... Let us all be happy with what our tennis idols can be... I, thank you (bow)... This discussion is getting deeper....too deep nalunod ako hehe. peace. This is just too simple you know... Gumawa ka ng paper boat... hahaha... |
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That's life... We all have our own beliefs... And i believe that the children are indeed our future . I believe that someday, with the young tennis players we have today, records will be broken. And i believe that is all there is, "RECORDS TO BE BROKEN"... Then if that time comes, will you say that you were not so fortunate at all since someone has broken the records of who you say the "only greatest player"? (i would love to exeperience that too, if i am still alive)... Impossibly ironic, isn't it? But who cares? Well, i do... That is why even Nadal gets so many slams (well, not yet, maybe, or never will ), i will still consider him just ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS... Because i believe in his ability, and i believe in what he can be; an inspiration, a tennis icon, not only to me... So if we will talk of beliefs in here, then there are no more points to disagree... Let us all be happy with what our tennis idols can be... I, thank you (bow)... This discussion is getting deeper....too deep nalunod ako hehe. peace. This is just too simple you know... Gumawa ka ng paper boat... hahaha... mahirap pa yung boat, paper airplane nalang  |
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« Reply #68 on: June 18, 2009, 04:58:46 PM » |
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That's life... We all have our own beliefs... And i believe that the children are indeed our future . I believe that someday, with the young tennis players we have today, records will be broken. And i believe that is all there is, "RECORDS TO BE BROKEN"... Then if that time comes, will you say that you were not so fortunate at all since someone has broken the records of who you say the "only greatest player"? (i would love to exeperience that too, if i am still alive)... Impossibly ironic, isn't it? But who cares? Well, i do... That is why even Nadal gets so many slams (well, not yet, maybe, or never will ), i will still consider him just ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS... Because i believe in his ability, and i believe in what he can be; an inspiration, a tennis icon, not only to me... So if we will talk of beliefs in here, then there are no more points to disagree... Let us all be happy with what our tennis idols can be... I, thank you (bow)... This discussion is getting deeper....too deep nalunod ako hehe. peace. This is just too simple you know... Gumawa ka ng paper boat... hahaha... mahirap pa yung boat, paper airplane nalang Jov, kala ko ba ayaw mo na magbiro? Wahahaha... Lagot ka... Hahahaha!!! Basta, kanya-kanyang opinion at interpretation lang yan... Hehehe... |
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That's life... We all have our own beliefs... And i believe that the children are indeed our future . I believe that someday, with the young tennis players we have today, records will be broken. And i believe that is all there is, "RECORDS TO BE BROKEN"... Then if that time comes, will you say that you were not so fortunate at all since someone has broken the records of who you say the "only greatest player"? (i would love to exeperience that too, if i am still alive)... Impossibly ironic, isn't it? But who cares? Well, i do... That is why even Nadal gets so many slams (well, not yet, maybe, or never will ), i will still consider him just ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS... Because i believe in his ability, and i believe in what he can be; an inspiration, a tennis icon, not only to me... So if we will talk of beliefs in here, then there are no more points to disagree... Let us all be happy with what our tennis idols can be... I, thank you (bow)... This discussion is getting deeper....too deep nalunod ako hehe. peace. This is just too simple you know... Gumawa ka ng paper boat... hahaha... mahirap pa yung boat, paper airplane nalang Jov, kala ko ba ayaw mo na magbiro? Wahahaha... Lagot ka... Hahahaha!!! Basta, kanya-kanyang opinion at interpretation lang yan... Hehehe... uy magkakampi tayo dito |
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I agree that everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and beliefs and should be respected, and this is what the forum is all about. But I hope lets look and stick to the numbers to have a better opinion. Sometimes we can be blinded by our own preference, resulting to a biased opinion. (even so I should respect that)This is what I like with Martina Navratilova, (I don't want to quote her because this is not her exact words, she has said, I like numbers because it puts where you truly belong. By the way, I also respect a religious group who believes that Rizal is the true son of God, and they are waiting for his second coming. I found their picture in Inquirer last Saturday. |
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Question lang sa hindi naniniwalang greatest si Federer. What is needed for him to be the greatest in your perspective? Possible naman ito to be the greatest. I believe that he already is. There is just no pleasing you guys.
Nadal will never surpass what Federer already achieved at this time. Nadal is young but 8 years na as a pro. He might even retire earlier from the sport. Injury usually hinders in a players career. Maybe not now but later in his career may effect. Nadal might have got the Australian open but yung effects ng pagiging kalabaw stamina nya ngayon niya nararamdaman. post ko lng ulit link ng comment ko bout Nadal.
Sasagutin ko to kasi may tanong eh ... hehe I don't believe Federer is the greatest until he overcomes his losing record against Nadal. How can he be the Greatest of all time even in his own era, when someone in your own era consistently beats you in any surface? Ang walang candy coating na reply dyan... Takot si Fed kay Nadal. In my own belief that is a huge setback sa argument of greatest... one of the greats pwede pa in my book. Sorry hard to please eh... |
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Question lang sa hindi naniniwalang greatest si Federer. What is needed for him to be the greatest in your perspective? Possible naman ito to be the greatest. I believe that he already is. There is just no pleasing you guys.
Nadal will never surpass what Federer already achieved at this time. Nadal is young but 8 years na as a pro. He might even retire earlier from the sport. Injury usually hinders in a players career. Maybe not now but later in his career may effect. Nadal might have got the Australian open but yung effects ng pagiging kalabaw stamina nya ngayon niya nararamdaman. post ko lng ulit link ng comment ko bout Nadal.
Sasagutin ko to kasi may tanong eh ... hehe I don't believe Federer is the greatest until he overcomes his losing record against Nadal. How can he be the Greatest of all time even in his own era, when someone in your own era consistently beats you in any surface? Ang walang candy coating na reply dyan... Takot si Fed kay Nadal. In my own belief that is a huge setback sa argument of greatest... one of the greats pwede pa in my book. Sorry hard to please eh... Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion?  |
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« Reply #73 on: June 22, 2009, 11:12:26 AM » |
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Question lang sa hindi naniniwalang greatest si Federer. What is needed for him to be the greatest in your perspective? Possible naman ito to be the greatest. I believe that he already is. There is just no pleasing you guys.
Nadal will never surpass what Federer already achieved at this time. Nadal is young but 8 years na as a pro. He might even retire earlier from the sport. Injury usually hinders in a players career. Maybe not now but later in his career may effect. Nadal might have got the Australian open but yung effects ng pagiging kalabaw stamina nya ngayon niya nararamdaman. post ko lng ulit link ng comment ko bout Nadal.
Sasagutin ko to kasi may tanong eh ... hehe I don't believe Federer is the greatest until he overcomes his losing record against Nadal. How can he be the Greatest of all time even in his own era, when someone in your own era consistently beats you in any surface? Ang walang candy coating na reply dyan... Takot si Fed kay Nadal. In my own belief that is a huge setback sa argument of greatest... one of the greats pwede pa in my book. Sorry hard to please eh... Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion? yes korek! i dont know pero si pete mas mataas ang records among the rest of his rivals. andre, as his main rival, e di takot si pete sa kanya. lumalabas pa nga galing ni pete pag si andre kalaban nya. oooppss! di ko sinasabing greatest of all time si pete a. favorite of all times pero assorted din naman ako. stefan edberg, john mcenroe and the great rod laver pinapanood ko ngayon. old school ryt? di ko kasi napapanood laban nila dati. of kors new school tennis pero nanjan lang yan di mawawala yan. well mas gusto ko lng old school tennis kasi nageexist lahat ng styles noon. more on finesse than power. strategy, technical skills over athletic abilities. |
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LET US FIRST CREATE THE CRITERIA FOR THE GREATEST PLAYER , 1. MUST HAVE WON THE 4 GRANDSLAM EVENT AT LEAST ONCE 2.MUST HAVE GAIN THE #1 RANKING FOR AT LEAST 2YEARS DAGDAGAN NYO PA! FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE ! |
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sampras and federer are among the greatest players pro tennis has produced. although we should give credit to federer once he surpass pete's record in grands slam trophies (this wimbledon 2009). but again, its not all about stats. gaya nga ng sabi ni TG how can he be the greatest if he is always dominated by rafael nadal? definitions of "GREATEST" Greatest in size of those under consideration
Greatest in importance or degree or significance or achievement
Not to be surpassed
Highest in qualitythe forth definition really is the question in mind for people who wants federer to be the greatest of all-time on a different note, i think pete has put another feather in his cap by simply stating that "federer is the greatest player". His Modesty has put him on another level which you won't find in others |
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LET US FIRST CREATE THE CRITERIA FOR THE GREATEST PLAYER , 1. MUST HAVE WON THE 4 GRANDSLAM EVENT AT LEAST ONCE 2.MUST HAVE GAIN THE #1 RANKING FOR AT LEAST 2YEARS 3. MUST HAVE EARNED AT LEAST 8MILLION DOLLARS IN PRIZE MONEY DAGDAGAN NYO PA! FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE ! |
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« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2009, 12:17:48 PM » |
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tumpak!!! at uulitin ko ng paulit ulit si pete parin para sakin ang greatest. kasi in times of despair, pressure at kung ano ano pang problema pete can still manage to win. etong video nato during the game he learned about the passing of his long time coach. he was sobbing like a baby on the court but he finished the game with grace. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3v699NSroU&NR=1sampras and federer are among the greatest players pro tennis has produced. although we should give credit to federer once he surpass pete's record in grands slam trophies (this wimbledon 2009). but again, its not all about stats. gaya nga ng sabi ni TG how can he be the greatest if he is always dominated by rafael nadal? definitions of "GREATEST" Greatest in size of those under consideration
Greatest in importance or degree or significance or achievement
Not to be surpassed
Highest in qualitythe forth definition really is the question in mind for people who wants federer to be the greatest of all-time on a different note, i think pete has put another feather in his cap by simply stating that "federer is the greatest player". His Modesty has put him on another level which you won't find in others |
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« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2009, 12:23:58 PM » |
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yes.... korek... dagdag ko pa... sino mga kinalaban nila sa finals? sa mga kinalaban nila sa finals sino tumatalo sa kanila? how many years sila nag number 1? ano ang record nila against their main rival? besides sa grand slam titles, anong mga records pa like winning streak, etc.... dami e. chaka mahirap suriin ng maigi kung sino tlaga ang THE ONE. Si Sampras di ata nila maconsider na genius. Hardwork talent daw chaka smart. While Federer ay genius daw.
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2009, 12:27:52 PM » |
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yes.... korek... dagdag ko pa... sino mga kinalaban nila sa finals? sa mga kinalaban nila sa finals sino tumatalo sa kanila? how many years sila nag number 1? ano ang record nila against their main rival? besides sa grand slam titles, anong mga records pa like winning streak, etc.... dami e. chaka mahirap suriin ng maigi kung sino tlaga ang THE ONE. Si Sampras di ata nila maconsider na genius. Hardwork talent daw chaka smart. While Federer ay genius daw.
BUT SAMPRAS DID NOT WON THE FRENCH OPEN!... WALA PANG NADAL NOON! |
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« Reply #80 on: June 22, 2009, 01:20:19 PM » |
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ot ka na naman sir addie e. ganun tlg. wala pang french open yan partida na yan. laki ng weakness nya sa clay pero 14 slams. hahaha! pero mga kasabayan nya matitindi din halos magkakaedad pa. |
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #81 on: June 22, 2009, 01:25:05 PM » |
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ot ka na naman sir addie e. ganun tlg. wala pang french open yan partida na yan. laki ng weakness nya sa clay pero 14 slams. hahaha! pero mga kasabayan nya matitindi din halos magkakaedad pa. whee ! OT ba yon mikki? heheh |
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« Reply #82 on: June 22, 2009, 01:44:20 PM » |
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #83 on: June 22, 2009, 01:49:31 PM » |
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oo nga pala in the making pa lang ...hindi pa ba made?... ano pa kailangan ni feds para maging the greatest player? |
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« Reply #84 on: June 22, 2009, 01:56:00 PM » |
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Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion? Huh Kay Steffi Graf nga ako sir Addie only player to ever win a Golden Slam (4 Grand Slams and Olympic Gold on the same year) and she did all of this with a slice backhand... partida na yun Eto palaisipan.... Nadal has 6 Grans Slams all of them at the expense of Fed... If Fed is the greatest of all time... and Nadal consistently beats Federer and dominates Federer.... What or who is Nadal?  just my two cents |
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« Reply #85 on: June 22, 2009, 02:17:06 PM » |
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Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion? Huh Kay Steffi Graf nga ako sir Addie only player to ever win a Golden Slam (4 Grand Slams and Olympic Gold on the same year) and she did all of this with a slice backhand... partida na yun Eto palaisipan.... Nadal has 6 Grans Slams all of them at the expense of Fed... If Fed is the greatest of all time... and Nadal consistently beats Federer and dominates Federer.... What or who is Nadal? just my two cents Yes! sa womens ,agree ako si graf eh sa mens?... na naglalaro ng 3 out of 5 sets sa grandslam sa womens 2 out of 3 sets lang! ..yun ba ang tamang gauge?.. to choose the greatest player? ... di ba mas maganda kung ang criteria eh yung pina ka madaming napanalunan na grand slam? |
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« Reply #86 on: June 22, 2009, 02:50:55 PM » |
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Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion? Huh Kay Steffi Graf nga ako sir Addie only player to ever win a Golden Slam (4 Grand Slams and Olympic Gold on the same year) and she did all of this with a slice backhand... partida na yun Eto palaisipan.... Nadal has 6 Grans Slams all of them at the expense of Fed... If Fed is the greatest of all time... and Nadal consistently beats Federer and dominates Federer.... What or who is Nadal? just my two cents Yes! sa womens ,agree ako si graf eh sa mens?... na naglalaro ng 3 out of 5 sets sa grandslam sa womens 2 out of 3 sets lang! ..yun ba ang tamang gauge?.. to choose the greatest player? ... di ba mas maganda kung ang criteria eh yung pina ka madaming napanalunan na grand slam? Greatest player naman sir addie nakalagay eh not the Greatest MALE player I don't think that records should be the ONLY criteria kung GREATEST ang pinaguusapan. If that would be the case.. would we consider Andy Roddick to have the GREATEST serve because he can serve the fastest at 155mph? Kahit na 3 sets lang sa women's para mapanalunan mo yung Golden Slam para kang dumaan sa butas ng karayom non and she could have easily succumbed to the pressure of the event Grand Slam records??? Nakita naman natin kung gaano katagal at kahirap kuhanin ni Fed ang 14 Grand Slams... Graf has 22 Sino ba tito addie ang greatest para sa yo? hehe ikaw naman sumagot nyan |
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« Reply #87 on: June 22, 2009, 03:06:18 PM » |
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Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion? Huh Kay Steffi Graf nga ako sir Addie only player to ever win a Golden Slam (4 Grand Slams and Olympic Gold on the same year) and she did all of this with a slice backhand... partida na yun Eto palaisipan.... Nadal has 6 Grans Slams all of them at the expense of Fed... If Fed is the greatest of all time... and Nadal consistently beats Federer and dominates Federer.... What or who is Nadal? just my two cents Yes! sa womens ,agree ako si graf eh sa mens?... na naglalaro ng 3 out of 5 sets sa grandslam sa womens 2 out of 3 sets lang! ..yun ba ang tamang gauge?.. to choose the greatest player? ... di ba mas maganda kung ang criteria eh yung pina ka madaming napanalunan na grand slam? Greatest player naman sir addie nakalagay eh not the Greatest MALE player I don't think that records should be the ONLY criteria kung GREATEST ang pinaguusapan. If that would be the case.. would we consider Andy Roddick to have the GREATEST serve because he can serve the fastest at 155mph? Kahit na 3 sets lang sa women's para mapanalunan mo yung Golden Slam para kang dumaan sa butas ng karayom non and she could have easily succumbed to the pressure of the event Grand Slam records??? Nakita naman natin kung gaano katagal at kahirap kuhanin ni Fed ang 14 Grand Slams... Graf has 22 Sino ba tito addie ang greatest para sa yo? hehe ikaw naman sumagot nyan sakin din si graf greatest player of all time, di si fed |
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« Reply #88 on: June 22, 2009, 03:07:15 PM » |
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Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion? Huh Kay Steffi Graf nga ako sir Addie only player to ever win a Golden Slam (4 Grand Slams and Olympic Gold on the same year) and she did all of this with a slice backhand... partida na yun Eto palaisipan.... Nadal has 6 Grans Slams all of them at the expense of Fed... If Fed is the greatest of all time... and Nadal consistently beats Federer and dominates Federer.... What or who is Nadal? just my two cents korek, greatest player pero bugbog lagi kay rafa, ano yun? peace! |
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« Reply #89 on: June 22, 2009, 03:45:52 PM » |
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Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion? Huh Kay Steffi Graf nga ako sir Addie only player to ever win a Golden Slam (4 Grand Slams and Olympic Gold on the same year) and she did all of this with a slice backhand... partida na yun Eto palaisipan.... Nadal has 6 Grans Slams all of them at the expense of Fed... If Fed is the greatest of all time... and Nadal consistently beats Federer and dominates Federer.... What or who is Nadal? just my two cents Yes! sa womens ,agree ako si graf eh sa mens?... na naglalaro ng 3 out of 5 sets sa grandslam sa womens 2 out of 3 sets lang! ..yun ba ang tamang gauge?.. to choose the greatest player? ... di ba mas maganda kung ang criteria eh yung pina ka madaming napanalunan na grand slam? Greatest player naman sir addie nakalagay eh not the Greatest MALE player I don't think that records should be the ONLY criteria kung GREATEST ang pinaguusapan. If that would be the case.. would we consider Andy Roddick to have the GREATEST serve because he can serve the fastest at 155mph? Kahit na 3 sets lang sa women's para mapanalunan mo yung Golden Slam para kang dumaan sa butas ng karayom non and she could have easily succumbed to the pressure of the event Grand Slam records??? Nakita naman natin kung gaano katagal at kahirap kuhanin ni Fed ang 14 Grand Slams... Graf has 22 Sino ba tito addie ang greatest para sa yo? hehe ikaw naman sumagot nyan ha ha ha ! bogs! as of now! para sa akin ,ha! ... piliin ko si federer ... why?... 1st 4 grandslam na lampasan nya ang hindi nagawa ni sampras yung roland garros 2nd 5 or 6 wimby! 4 or 5 U.S. open and 2 australian open .. what more can you ask for!... now if rafa can surpass those achievements!, maybe he will become the greatest but until then ,..for me its federer |
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« Reply #90 on: June 22, 2009, 04:38:01 PM » |
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Yan ang tinatawag na contra pelo like sampras is contra pelo sa clay! Sa H2H e malaki ang lamang ni Nadal. But I don't think bugbog si fed kay nadal sa mga laro nila. except yung RG 2008, i think mga laban nila is close naman. At may mga Major Clay Finals na din na nakuha si Fed against Nadal. Isa sa Germany yata at isa sa Spain mismo na lugar ni Nadal. At kung nagkataon na umabot pa si Nadal sa Finals ng RG, mas sweet sana ang panalo ni Federer. Kaso talagang di na kaya ni Nadal. At hanggang Round of 16 lang ang kaya niyang ibuga. At ang bumugbog kay Nadal that day ay siya na mismo ang nagsabi na Federer is the greatest of all time. May be that means something. Sampras was once declared as the greatest of all time. Marami contra noon sa declaration na ito. Pero para sa akin, at that time, Sampras for me was the greatest. Dumating ang time ni Federer and now most is saying that he is the greatest of all time pati American Sports magazine na Sports Illustrated ay ito na din ang sinasabi. Surely, a lot is not in agreement. Eventually, mawawala din si Federer at may papalit na sasabihang greatest of all time. Sino naman kaya ito? Ito ang malaking question mark??? Baka gusto ninyo magbukas ng topic para malaman natin who's the man other than Federer at this time and can erase all doubts on who's the greatest of all time? |
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« Reply #91 on: June 22, 2009, 04:44:12 PM » |
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hahaha! ok yan sir francis. who will be the next grand slam collector? at elast ilan ba? at least 10 or 14+? |
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #92 on: June 22, 2009, 04:45:39 PM » |
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Yan ang tinatawag na contra pelo like sampras is contra pelo sa clay! Sa H2H e malaki ang lamang ni Nadal. But I don't think bugbog si fed kay nadal sa mga laro nila. except yung RG 2008, i think mga laban nila is close naman. At may mga Major Clay Finals na din na nakuha si Fed against Nadal. Isa sa Germany yata at isa sa Spain mismo na lugar ni Nadal. At kung nagkataon na umabot pa si Nadal sa Finals ng RG, mas sweet sana ang panalo ni Federer. Kaso talagang di na kaya ni Nadal. At hanggang Round of 16 lang ang kaya niyang ibuga. At ang bumugbog kay Nadal that day ay siya na mismo ang nagsabi na Federer is the greatest of all time. May be that means something. Sampras was once declared as the greatest of all time. Marami contra noon sa declaration na ito. Pero para sa akin, at that time, Sampras for me was the greatest. Dumating ang time ni Federer and now most is saying that he is the greatest of all time pati American Sports magazine na Sports Illustrated ay ito na din ang sinasabi. Surely, a lot is not in agreement. Eventually, mawawala din si Federer at may papalit na sasabihang greatest of all time. Sino naman kaya ito? Ito ang malaking question mark??? Baka gusto ninyo magbukas ng topic para malaman natin who's the man other than Federer at this time and can erase all doubts on who's the greatest of all time? korek din.. h,, parang sinabi na ring mas mahusay si SANTORO kay SAFIN. |
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #93 on: June 22, 2009, 08:06:19 PM » |
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Eh sino ..Bogs ang greatest .in your opinion? Huh Kay Steffi Graf nga ako sir Addie only player to ever win a Golden Slam (4 Grand Slams and Olympic Gold on the same year) and she did all of this with a slice backhand... partida na yun Eto palaisipan.... Nadal has 6 Grans Slams all of them at the expense of Fed... If Fed is the greatest of all time... and Nadal consistently beats Federer and dominates Federer.... What or who is Nadal? just my two cents Nadal the only player that can beat federer. |
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« Reply #94 on: June 22, 2009, 08:19:37 PM » |
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Yan ang tinatawag na contra pelo like sampras is contra pelo sa clay! Sa H2H e malaki ang lamang ni Nadal. But I don't think bugbog si fed kay nadal sa mga laro nila. except yung RG 2008, i think mga laban nila is close naman. At may mga Major Clay Finals na din na nakuha si Fed against Nadal. Isa sa Germany yata at isa sa Spain mismo na lugar ni Nadal. At kung nagkataon na umabot pa si Nadal sa Finals ng RG, mas sweet sana ang panalo ni Federer. Kaso talagang di na kaya ni Nadal. At hanggang Round of 16 lang ang kaya niyang ibuga. At ang bumugbog kay Nadal that day ay siya na mismo ang nagsabi na Federer is the greatest of all time. May be that means something. Sampras was once declared as the greatest of all time. Marami contra noon sa declaration na ito. Pero para sa akin, at that time, Sampras for me was the greatest. Dumating ang time ni Federer and now most is saying that he is the greatest of all time pati American Sports magazine na Sports Illustrated ay ito na din ang sinasabi. Surely, a lot is not in agreement. Eventually, mawawala din si Federer at may papalit na sasabihang greatest of all time. Sino naman kaya ito? Ito ang malaking question mark??? Baka gusto ninyo magbukas ng topic para malaman natin who's the man other than Federer at this time and can erase all doubts on who's the greatest of all time? Tama, ako hinde ako maka federer but for me he is the greatest of all time. 1. The grandslam titles. 2. Won all 4 grandslam. Eto lang ang aking tanong, sa tingin ko kasi makukuha ni Nadal ang US Open. which means na mas maaga niyang nakuha ang 4 na grand slam. ano ang pwede nating itawag sa kanya? eto lang po. |
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« Reply #95 on: June 22, 2009, 08:52:48 PM » |
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Yan ang tinatawag na contra pelo like sampras is contra pelo sa clay! Sa H2H e malaki ang lamang ni Nadal. But I don't think bugbog si fed kay nadal sa mga laro nila. except yung RG 2008, i think mga laban nila is close naman. At may mga Major Clay Finals na din na nakuha si Fed against Nadal. Isa sa Germany yata at isa sa Spain mismo na lugar ni Nadal. At kung nagkataon na umabot pa si Nadal sa Finals ng RG, mas sweet sana ang panalo ni Federer. Kaso talagang di na kaya ni Nadal. At hanggang Round of 16 lang ang kaya niyang ibuga. At ang bumugbog kay Nadal that day ay siya na mismo ang nagsabi na Federer is the greatest of all time. May be that means something. Sampras was once declared as the greatest of all time. Marami contra noon sa declaration na ito. Pero para sa akin, at that time, Sampras for me was the greatest. Dumating ang time ni Federer and now most is saying that he is the greatest of all time pati American Sports magazine na Sports Illustrated ay ito na din ang sinasabi. Surely, a lot is not in agreement. Eventually, mawawala din si Federer at may papalit na sasabihang greatest of all time. Sino naman kaya ito? Ito ang malaking question mark??? Baka gusto ninyo magbukas ng topic para malaman natin who's the man other than Federer at this time and can erase all doubts on who's the greatest of all time? Tama, ako hinde ako maka federer but for me he is the greatest of all time. 1. The grandslam titles. 2. Won all 4 grandslam. Eto lang ang aking tanong, sa tingin ko kasi makukuha ni Nadal ang US Open. which means na mas maaga niyang nakuha ang 4 na grand slam. ano ang pwede nating itawag sa kanya? eto lang po. Yup sir Lito, that would be a different story if he wins the U.S. Open. If he gets it, he could be the youngest to win the 4 GS(I'm not sure really hehe") kaya let's just wait and see na lang.... |
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« Reply #96 on: June 22, 2009, 10:12:54 PM » |
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ROGER FEDERER the greatest player in the making .... no , coz he already made himself as one of the greatest... RAFAEL NADAL is on the making...coz he had beaten Roger seveal times |
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« Reply #97 on: June 23, 2009, 09:58:53 AM » |
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ROGER FEDERER the greatest player in the making .... no , coz he already made himself as one of the greatest... RAFAEL NADAL is on the making...coz he had beaten Roger seveal times Hello po... Uunahan ko na ang iba dito... Sir, meron kasi na ayaw tanggapin na ONE OF THE GREATEST PLAYERS lang si ka-ROGER... They wanted him to be the ONLY GREATEST OF ALL TIME... I already have made my point in here... I too think that nobody can be the only greatest in all time... I believe that Federer is a great player, but he is just one of them... JUST MY POINT OF VIEW... |
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« Reply #98 on: June 23, 2009, 10:02:09 AM » |
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Yan ang tinatawag na contra pelo like sampras is contra pelo sa clay! Sa H2H e malaki ang lamang ni Nadal. But I don't think bugbog si fed kay nadal sa mga laro nila. except yung RG 2008, i think mga laban nila is close naman. At may mga Major Clay Finals na din na nakuha si Fed against Nadal. Isa sa Germany yata at isa sa Spain mismo na lugar ni Nadal. At kung nagkataon na umabot pa si Nadal sa Finals ng RG, mas sweet sana ang panalo ni Federer. Kaso talagang di na kaya ni Nadal. At hanggang Round of 16 lang ang kaya niyang ibuga. At ang bumugbog kay Nadal that day ay siya na mismo ang nagsabi na Federer is the greatest of all time. May be that means something. Sampras was once declared as the greatest of all time. Marami contra noon sa declaration na ito. Pero para sa akin, at that time, Sampras for me was the greatest. Dumating ang time ni Federer and now most is saying that he is the greatest of all time pati American Sports magazine na Sports Illustrated ay ito na din ang sinasabi. Surely, a lot is not in agreement. Eventually, mawawala din si Federer at may papalit na sasabihang greatest of all time. Sino naman kaya ito? Ito ang malaking question mark??? Baka gusto ninyo magbukas ng topic para malaman natin who's the man other than Federer at this time and can erase all doubts on who's the greatest of all time? Tama, ako hinde ako maka federer but for me he is the greatest of all time. 1. The grandslam titles. 2. Won all 4 grandslam. Eto lang ang aking tanong, sa tingin ko kasi makukuha ni Nadal ang US Open. which means na mas maaga niyang nakuha ang 4 na grand slam. ano ang pwede nating itawag sa kanya? eto lang po. Hende! mangyari yon partner! maagang mag retire si nadal baldado na tuhod! |
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« Reply #99 on: June 23, 2009, 10:16:13 AM » |
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Yan ang tinatawag na contra pelo like sampras is contra pelo sa clay! Sa H2H e malaki ang lamang ni Nadal. But I don't think bugbog si fed kay nadal sa mga laro nila. except yung RG 2008, i think mga laban nila is close naman. At may mga Major Clay Finals na din na nakuha si Fed against Nadal. Isa sa Germany yata at isa sa Spain mismo na lugar ni Nadal. At kung nagkataon na umabot pa si Nadal sa Finals ng RG, mas sweet sana ang panalo ni Federer. Kaso talagang di na kaya ni Nadal. At hanggang Round of 16 lang ang kaya niyang ibuga. At ang bumugbog kay Nadal that day ay siya na mismo ang nagsabi na Federer is the greatest of all time. May be that means something. Sampras was once declared as the greatest of all time. Marami contra noon sa declaration na ito. Pero para sa akin, at that time, Sampras for me was the greatest. Dumating ang time ni Federer and now most is saying that he is the greatest of all time pati American Sports magazine na Sports Illustrated ay ito na din ang sinasabi. Surely, a lot is not in agreement. Eventually, mawawala din si Federer at may papalit na sasabihang greatest of all time. Sino naman kaya ito? Ito ang malaking question mark??? Baka gusto ninyo magbukas ng topic para malaman natin who's the man other than Federer at this time and can erase all doubts on who's the greatest of all time? Tama, ako hinde ako maka federer but for me he is the greatest of all time. 1. The grandslam titles. 2. Won all 4 grandslam. Eto lang ang aking tanong, sa tingin ko kasi makukuha ni Nadal ang US Open. which means na mas maaga niyang nakuha ang 4 na grand slam. ano ang pwede nating itawag sa kanya? eto lang po. Hende! mangyari yon partner! maagang mag retire si nadal baldado na tuhod! Well, i believe in Nadal... He will get the US Open title... It will be a great win if he again could grab the title at the expense of Federer... But of course, win or lose, i will be happy for Nadal cause it will be another milestone for him if he reaches the Final at the US Open... Cheers!!! |
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