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American Twist/Twist Serve
The twist serve was originally known as the "American twist" serve, and it is still sometimes referred to by that name. It is a special kind of topspin-slice serve that behaves differently after the bounce because it has much more topspin than sidespin on it. So, instead of skidding and continuing to curve leftward after the bounce, it "grabs" the court and breaks rightward.
A twist serve is hit with topspin and travels at a lesser pace than the flat serve. The ball travels in a higher arc over the net than a flat serve. It then dips quicker and bounces higher, generally away from the receiving player's backhand. The kick serve in general is safer to hit and is often employed for the second serve. A twist serve is harder to learn, however, because it is hit somewhat behind the head of the server and requires slightly more complex mechanics. It is hit with either a Continental or Eastern backhand grip. The American twist serve is useful for second serves, serve and volley tactics and many other circumstances.
A Twist serve is thrown somewhat behind the server's head, and the racquet brushes the ball from the 8 o'clock position to the 2 'clock position, although more experienced and talented players can have a 7 o'clock to 1 o'clock position, imparting a combination of topspin and sidespin that makes the ball go in an angled arc over the net. Upon bouncing, it jumps high and to the side in the direction of the server's racquet arm. For example, if a right hander hits a Twist serve to the ad (backhand) court, it will jump away from the center of the court.
Due to the partial topspin and height at which it clears the net, the Twist serve has more margin for error than a Flat serve and is sometimes a common choice among top pros for a safe second serve, although some opt to use the "Kick Serve" as a potent first serve option. A player who is able to change the angle at which the racquet brushes the ball (say, 7 o'clock to 12 o'clock) can change the horizontal bounce of the ball at will, reducing the predictability of the bounce for the receiver. Also, because the topspin imparted on the ball forces it to bounce high, the receiver would be unable to hit an ideal shot in their contact zone (typically between waist and shoulder level).
Because the twist serve curves to the receiver's right in the air and then breaks leftward on the bounce, kicking high to (a right-hander's) backhand, this can be the most difficult serve to return.
It is also the most difficult to learn. The contact point is slightly to the left of the server's head and directly over it or perhaps even a little behind it. The required swing path is achieved by an inside angle of attack on the ball. The result is a twisted axis of rotation, so that the ball's spinning is out-of-line with its flight path.
It is possible to hit a twist serve with a Continental grip, but most players and teachers feel that an Eastern backhand grip is necessary.
Like all spin serves, the twist serve travels slower than a flat serve. Servers who follow their serve to the net often take advantage of this fact, hitting the twist serve because it is difficult to return but affords them extra time to get close to the net before the return is back.
Because it has heavy topspin on it, the twist serve is a "safe" serve that can be aimed high over the net and still land in. So it is often used as a second serve. In the anime/manga named "Prince of Tennis", the main character; Ryoma Echizen, uses this move a lot!
napasama pa si rayuma echizen! hahaha!
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2009, 07:56:12 PM » |
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sakit sa likod gawin nito! meron kaya nageexecute ng kick serve na 6 o'clock - 12 o'clock? si pilita corrales kayang kaya to!   |
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2009, 07:58:56 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2009, 08:29:53 PM » |
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wala pa rin kay ryoma echizen yan. maraming napabagsak(literal) yung twist serve nun. hahaha! ewan ko kung nagagawa ko yan pero im trying very very hard. yung receiver lang makakapagsabi kung nagagawa mo ito. sarap lang gawin to sa doubles.
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2009, 09:02:50 PM » |
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sakit sa likod gawin nito! meron kaya nageexecute ng kick serve na 6 o'clock - 12 o'clock? si pilita corrales kayang kaya to! hahaha! wla na atang sidepin yun. pure kick serve mangyayari dun. well sarap lang gawin consistently tapos malakas pa. grabe! saya ko nun pag ganun. wala ka ng double fault gaano nyan. |
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2009, 01:18:32 PM » |
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wala pa rin kay ryoma echizen yan. maraming napabagsak(literal) yung twist serve nun. hahaha! ewan ko kung nagagawa ko yan pero im trying very very hard. yung receiver lang makakapagsabi kung nagagawa mo ito. sarap lang gawin to sa doubles. Hirap nyan bro. not sure kung nagagawa mo talaga yan.  |
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2009, 01:39:00 PM » |
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hirap tlaga pero nagagawa ko to. gusto mo tikman? |
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2009, 01:42:18 PM » |
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hirap tlaga pero nagagawa ko to. gusto mo tikman? oo bro, show me pag nagkita tayo. i acknowledge kita pag nagawa mo yan. ang tanong rin e gaano kalakas at ka-sharp ang angle kung nagagawa mo man. |
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 02:04:29 PM » |
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i have no idea. pero for sure out pag sinagot mo. woohoo! trash talk! |
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2009, 02:30:55 PM » |
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off topic ulit. nga pala talagang napakahirap talaga nitong serve nato lalo na kung halos dikit halos sa speed ng 1st serve.
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 03:05:13 PM » |
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sakit sa likod gawin nito! meron kaya nageexecute ng kick serve na 6 o'clock - 12 o'clock? si pilita corrales kayang kaya to! hahaha! wla na atang sidepin yun. pure kick serve mangyayari dun. well sarap lang gawin consistently tapos malakas pa. grabe! saya ko nun pag ganun. wala ka ng double fault gaano nyan. kick serve yung sayo mikki, iba yung american twist, si tito boy sy and kuya jr lang gumagawa nyan sa 2a, |
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2009, 03:06:51 PM » |
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hirap tlaga pero nagagawa ko to. gusto mo tikman? oo bro, show me pag nagkita tayo. i acknowledge kita pag nagawa mo yan. ang tanong rin e gaano kalakas at ka-sharp ang angle kung nagagawa mo man. aaaaaaaaah iba na tono ng usapan nyo ah! yiiiiiiihiiiiiii |
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 03:08:08 PM » |
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 03:46:27 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2009, 03:59:30 PM » |
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Baka underhand pinoy twist serve yan hahaha |
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 10:20:10 PM » |
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pero ian, di nga american twist serve ni mikki, pero kick serve naman sya, lumalagpas sa tao, tamaan mo man, out na return mo, unless lagi mong kalaro si mikki or magaling ka mag on the rise.  |
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 10:21:05 PM » |
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so kelan na iseset ang laban na to?
MIKKI vs. COMMANDER IAN
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 11:38:27 PM » |
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Jov: darating rin yang challenge namin ni Mikki. Kasi bro kapag nde mo nagawa ang twist serve kick serve ang lalabas. most likely ginagawa ni mikki twist pero kick nangyayari.
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 11:54:06 PM » |
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2009, 10:36:14 AM » |
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2009, 11:22:55 AM » |
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so pano mikki kelan mo balak i challenge si commander ian?
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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2009, 12:12:51 PM » |
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if i am 100% sure. layo nya qc e. sa mga pto ebs lang ang may chance na makalaro ko sya.
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2009, 02:06:06 PM » |
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so kelan na iseset ang laban na to?
MIKKI vs. COMMANDER IAN
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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2009, 02:43:09 PM » |
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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2009, 03:37:08 PM » |
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kung sa malapit lang sa akin gagawin ito e tutulong ako sa pag-inom ng 1xcase ng san mig light.
malapit lang sa akin ang olivares lalo na kung weeknight gagawin.
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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2009, 03:58:13 PM » |
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enough with the trash talking!!! lets get it on!!
meet na lang halfway para patas..
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« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2009, 04:17:49 PM » |
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ok. ituloy nyo lang ito ... sagot ko 1xcase ng san mig light and 1xcrisy pata! go ba kayo dito? nice sagot ni ruud inom and tampuluts! yihiiiiiiii! |
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2009, 04:18:33 PM » |
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enough with the trash talking!!! lets get it on!!
meet na lang halfway para patas..
pwede siguro sa olivarez or sa citadella, halfway ba yun? |
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« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2009, 04:20:41 PM » |
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go na mikki! may sponsor pa challenge nyo oh! dali!
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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2009, 07:27:29 PM » |
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pano to pag sino tatamaan nung serve point na? nyahahahaha
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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2009, 10:51:37 PM » |
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pag citadella ang venue sagot ko naman ang court fee! game na!
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« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2009, 11:26:44 AM » |
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HAHAHAHAHA ayos to ah may hype na agad.
Miks: Halfway ok ako Citadella or Perps. Ayan mejo madali na sayo yan. Sige pakita mo sa akin kung ano mang twist yan. Lets do the twist hehehe.
Ruud: Parang magiging mini EB ang mangyayari ah dahil sa challenge namin ni Mikki. Inuman na hehehe.
Francis: Alam ko na sikreto mo kung paano k palalabasin at magpaparamdam hahaha.
Skinktatoo: Kmusta tennis elbow bro?
Jov: Sige text mo na Nikki para naman inspired c Mikki. Yihee. Flying kiss while playing hahaha.
Nasayo ang kasagutan Mikki, go na ako. Masaya to dahil mgkakasamasama tayo.
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« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2009, 11:55:36 AM » |
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commander ians: di na masyado masakit, mga 2 days pa sigurong pahinga.
uy ayos to!! Lets do the twist tournament!! hahahaha
mikki game na! para ma set na ang date!!!
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« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2009, 02:16:57 PM » |
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HAHAHAHAHA ayos to ah may hype na agad.
Miks: Halfway ok ako Citadella or Perps. Ayan mejo madali na sayo yan. Sige pakita mo sa akin kung ano mang twist yan. Lets do the twist hehehe.
Ruud: Parang magiging mini EB ang mangyayari ah dahil sa challenge namin ni Mikki. Inuman na hehehe.
Francis: Alam ko na sikreto mo kung paano k palalabasin at magpaparamdam hahaha.
Skinktatoo: Kmusta tennis elbow bro?
Jov: Sige text mo na Nikki para naman inspired c Mikki. Yihee. Flying kiss while playing hahaha.
Nasayo ang kasagutan Mikki, go na ako. Masaya to dahil mgkakasamasama tayo.
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« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2009, 02:21:48 PM » |
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« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2009, 03:21:20 PM » |
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huy Mikki, kay Dr Kho na yung Brazilian na yun bakit dun k pa rin magttrain hahahaha. |
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« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2009, 04:52:13 PM » |
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mukhang go na ito. Panonoorin namin kung paano i-deliver ni ian at mikki ang twist serve while we drink beer!
just let us know when and where.
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« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2009, 08:02:15 PM » |
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mukhang go na ito. Panonoorin namin kung paano i-deliver ni ian at mikki ang twist serve while we drink beer!
just let us know when and where.
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« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2009, 09:53:48 PM » |
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ok. ituloy nyo lang ito ... sagot ko 1xcase ng san mig light and 1xcrisy pata! go ba kayo dito? Para wala kayong masabi, pag natuloy ito uuwi ako para tumulong sa pag kain ng crispy pata. Yan ang pledge ko. |
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« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2009, 10:26:59 PM » |
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wow! dami nang nagaabang ng sagupaan ni mikki and ian! wohooooooo! si mikki grabe na training! panay singles na ang laro nya!
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« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2009, 10:49:45 PM » |
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