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[pedrolabasulo]

guys how can a we be a registered tennis coach or tennis trainor in the philippines, i plan to coach / train my 6 yr old son to play tennis, he is so interested on tennis and he is already hitting some balls 3 months ago...

[LVL]

sent you a PM don Pedro...

[SLP888]

guys how can a we be a registered tennis coach or tennis trainor in the philippines, i plan to coach / train my 6 yr old son to play tennis, he is so interested on tennis and he is already hitting some balls 3 months ago...

Keep him enjoy playing Tennis that's most important things.

[pedrolabasulo]

k tnx bro SLP

[edolera]

My name is Elmer A. Dolera from the United States and the founder of The Goodwill Tennis Tours.  My tennis program is planning to return to the Philippines for the sixth time since 1999 to to a tandem program of tennis instruction, especially for those who want to certified as USPTA tennis professionals.

We just concluded our last tennis program which was done in February/March of this year.  We went to Gingoog City, Butuan, Camiguin Island, Malabalay, Davao City, Cebu City, Ateneo de Manila and Naga City.  We taught the USTA Recreational Coaches Workshop (RCW) (http://www.usta.com/coaches/custom.sps?iType=12362&icustompageid=17306) and did tennis clinics for children and advanced juniors.

Our plan is to return to the Philippines in November 2007 to certify those USPTA Developmental Coaches we certified after participating in the USTA RCW, who choose to be certified in the higher levels of USPTA certification - P1, P2 and P3.  In addition we plan again, to teach the USTA RCW and certify those who want to be USPTA Developmental Coaches, the entry level for USPTA certification.  Those who do not choose to be certified as a USPTA Devlopmental Coach can still participate for free. 

We will be doing the tennis programs in Manila, Cebu City, Camiguin Island and a fourth site yet to be decided.  For more information about my initial four tennis programs, please go to the web addresses http://edolera.photosite.com/ and http://photos.yahoo.com/edolera@sbcglobal.net, to view pictures and to view pictures of my just concluded tennis program, please go to the web address http://www1.snapfish.com/share/p=237191177021214993/l=250354466/g=15905395/cobrandOid=1000131/otsc=SYE/otsi=SALB

The tennis professionals and myself are volunteering our time and expertise to the people of the Philippines.  All are encouraged to participate in my tennis program.  My associate, USPTA P1 Ted Sayrahder is a USPTA Tester and  a USTA High Performance Coach.  My other associate, USPTA P1 Kevin Young who will be teaching the USTA RCW, is a USTA Master RCW National Trainer. 

The only fees will be for those who choose to be certified as USPTA Developmental Coaches upon conclusion of the USTA RCW and those who want to be certified to the higher levels of USPTA certification.  We were able to get the USTA to lower the USTA RCW fees for the Philippines and are working to lower the fees for USPTA certification.

We are implementing our "5555" strategy of certifying fifty Filipinos as Certified USPTA tennis professionals, five hundred as USPTA Developmental Coaches, five thousand children playing the game of tennis, within five years.  The Goodwill Tennis Tours has a proven track record of success.  We look forward returning to the Philippines in November of 2007.

Please contact me at edolera@hotmail.com if you have any questions.






 

[altodds]

You do not have to be certified in tennis instructing in order to get a job as a tennis coach or teacher. However, it is certainly not a bad idea. If you are teaching at a smaller institution, or perhaps only random lessons here and there, you may think of getting an official certification for instructing tennis. Especially if you aspire to coach or teach in the future and want to land the best job and achieve the most success possible – consider the possibility that you can further your career with a piece of paper. Many of the more elite clubs pride themselves in having all certified staff members, so sometimes to get the best job – you may have to take those extra steps.

When you are a certified tennis instructor, not only do you have the advantage of the certificate – but those of the process of getting the certificate in your hands. The process will not take too long, depending on the program you choose, of course. You will be required to attend workshops on how to teach tennis. You will learn how to help students think their way through the technique. In addition, your own skill will be markedly improved. You will receive liability insurance – which can help in the future, if the need ever arises. Most tennis clubs who require certified instructors do this for the purpose of liability. It makes sense. You will also receive special instructional videos, books, dvds, and more. No one else has access to these materials, and they are assets to mastering the perfect tennis techniques learning from these books will guarantee that you are able to teach perfect form without confusion.

Sometimes, teaching tennis lessons just comes natural to people. Often, these more skilled and especially talented tennis players are people who have had great tennis instructors as well. The more you know, that is, the more you can focus on the game and the technique – the more you can teach others how to master the game. You will, as a certified instructor, also receive magazines exclusive to those with a certification in the profession of tennis. You will also receive discount tennis merchandise – as a matter of fact, once you are hired, you will probably receive free (or virtually free) tennis equipment from the establishment that hires you.

The very best advantage of being certified as an educated, professional tennis instructor is that you will have the eligibility to compete in various tournaments. These tournaments are designed for people just like you as well. There will not be a huge variety of skill levels to deal with. Certified instructors compete against each other in these competitions – therefore, you will be able to battle some of the very best. In addition, other instructors will be excluded unless they are certified members for professional, high quality tennis instruction

Hope this helps

[pedrolabasulo]

thanks bro Altodds, appreciate it

[altodds]

You are always welcome, "ALL-WAYS", bro Peds

[SLP888]

Altodds,

I'm not a registered coach but I am coaching. I have no certificate to show that I'm a registered coach. Baka idemanda ako! Help me! Altodds?

[coco]

Pagnatuloy plano ng USPTR dito sa November, timing mo uwi mo. Subsidized yata cost ng certification nila, noong andito sila mga P10,000 converted yung dollar price, e ang baba na dollar ngayon, baka P9,500 na lang. Pero maganda yan, advance apply ka para makuha mo kaagad materials nila mapagaralan. Pag dating na nila kumuha, rush job aral nyan mga 3 days lang kasi workshop kung saan ituro coverage ng written and practical exam. Kailangan English pa on court exam dahil Kano yong mag evaluate sa on court tennis lesson. Kahit papano kailangan practice din muna yong skills test naman na may mga target areas kung saan dapat pumasok bola para makalevel 1 sa skills test.

[oldskul]

Altodds,

I'm not a registered coach but I am coaching. I have no certificate to show that I'm a registered coach. Baka idemanda ako! Help me! Altodds?

SLP,wag ka mag alala makukuha kita ng coaching certificate sa recto! di ka madedemanda sagot kita 

[SLP888]

What I mean is I have no certificate but sometimes here I teach or give instructions for those coaches who wants to get certificates. Malabo di bah! but it's true. Paki liwanag nga Oldskul, pati ako nalaboan din.

[coco]

Yan maganda dyan sa inyo sa Japan. Kayo pinakasikat dyan dahil mga hapon hinde makabasa ingles, kaya sa inyo lang makapagaral. Wala ibang source of information yan unless itranslate ibang material na ingles.

[oldskul]

What I mean is I have no certificate but sometimes here I teach or give instructions for those coaches who wants to get certificates. Malabo di bah! but it's true. Paki liwanag nga Oldskul, pati ako nalaboan din.

ibig sabihin nyan,mabigat ka kasi kaw ang nagtuturo sa mga coach na gusto mag coach,mataas katungkulan mo.

[altodds]

Altodds,

I'm not a registered coach but I am coaching. I have no certificate to show that I'm a registered coach. Baka idemanda ako! Help me! Altodds?

SLP,
Idedemanda ka? You're kiddin' right? Kung gusto mo kumuha nang as a Registered Coach, kayang kaya mo dito yan. maski sa JPTA, makita lang ang record mo, wala nang test test pa, they'll just observe you and Boom!!!, registered ka sigurado.
In my case naman, I met Dennis Van Der Meer here when he's givin' some clinic in Kyoto, as far as I remember I'm his assistant na hindi member nang USPTR, more than a week kaming magkasama, but he didn't mention na mag take ako ng test for the USPTR, he just observe me and when papunta na siya ng Tokyo he offered me kung puede akong mag work sa Hilton Head Island sa place yata niya yon, for good, pero if I work there siyempre dapat rin akong makakuha ng USPTR as a registered coach. From that time hindi ko siya nakontak. To simplify this story, hindi rin ako registered coach, but I'm registered here as a coach of Shiga Tennis Association under ng Kansai Tennis Association as an official Coach ng Shiga's 14 and 12 and under juniors.
Ikaw rin alam kong official coach ka ng Hyogo Kokutai, pareho ang situation natin, kaya handa tayo pag may magdimanda sa atin

[coco]

Wala naman yatang batas na nagbabawal ng hinde certified coaches. Sa tennis developed countries lang, gaya ng US, Canada, Europe, et al, mahirap magtrabaho tennis pag hinde ka certified dahil yung consumers nila siempre gusto tried and tested teaching pros para alam may minimum na kakayahan. Pareha dito sa atin, wala rin naman masyadong certified pros dito, dito sa atin uso certification, pero certification na nagattend ng workshop o seminar. Iba talaga siempre pag certified teaching pro, proven ang minimum knowledge. Sa totoo lang, yang mga certification exam ng USPTA at USPTR kulang pa para sa mga nagtetrain talaga for competition dahil wala masyado sa physical conditioning at mental toughness portion. Ang tindi na ng research and data sa ganyang subject matter at ang bilis madagdagan kaya kailangan up to date ka talaga.

[altodds]

Wala naman yatang batas na nagbabawal ng hinde certified coaches. Sa tennis developed countries lang, gaya ng US, Canada, Europe, et al, mahirap magtrabaho tennis pag hinde ka certified dahil yung consumers nila siempre gusto tried and tested teaching pros para alam may minimum na kakayahan. Pareha dito sa atin, wala rin naman masyadong certified pros dito, dito sa atin uso certification, pero certification na nagattend ng workshop o seminar. Iba talaga siempre pag certified teaching pro, proven ang minimum knowledge. Sa totoo lang, yang mga certification exam ng USPTA at USPTR kulang pa para sa mga nagtetrain talaga for competition dahil wala masyado sa physical conditioning at mental toughness portion. Ang tindi na ng research and data sa ganyang subject matter at ang bilis madagdagan kaya kailangan up to date ka talaga.

You're very correct there Coco!!!
But here also in Japan, those players na walang competitive experience, likes of, katatapos lang nang High School, they wish to be a tennis coach, kaya mayroon din dito mga local seminar or local workshop for coaching starter, may maraming category kasi, but pag nag pro or tour player ka dito at nagretire ka na na dating as a pro tennis player, napakadali kumuha ng certifications, or registering as a tennis coach, lalo na kung may pangalan ka dito.

[coco]

Pinakamatindi certification ITF, mandatory na magattend ka modules nila for each level of certification kaya ang mahal dahil may certain places lang sila nagseseminar. Ang tatagal pa kaya ang taas gastos sa accomodation. Yun lang, comprehensive talaga certifications, as in pataas ka ng pataas, patindi ng patindi coverage of exams.

[jov]

guys how can a we be a registered tennis coach or tennis trainor in the philippines, i plan to coach / train my 6 yr old son to play tennis, he is so interested on tennis and he is already hitting some balls 3 months ago...

hi don pedro! wow your so lucky don pedro for having a son who's intrested in tennis at an early age, yung ibang kids kasi, they would rather play video games than tennis, baka next federer or nadal yung anak nyo sir, thanks!

[poordoy]

You cannot teach what you do not know.... i can not teach my child how to read if i cannot read myself.... can you? I'm talking about higher tennis instruction. The indepth of tennis..
   I say the likes of SLP, JUn Suarez, Eddie cruz, Alex Marcial,Rod Cabato and the likes are the ONLY qualified Tennis Coaches.. They have earned their marks and qualifications.
   The rest certified or not, may teach or coach but only to certain level.. perhaps just the basic strokes, serves etc, stroke productions...........but the heart of tennis is the competition, where knowledge thru experience is THE ONLY qualifying factor that counts...this Also requires understanding the mental aspect and personality of the student/..   Remember there is no measure of what is correct in tennis. It is about your own style where you develop your own performance..
    Remember the true test is the coaches achievements... other than that .. you are throwing your money away
   

[SLP888]

What is the difference between KNOWLEDGE and WISDOM?

[pedrolabasulo]

bai SLP, sa akin lang tong difference between Knowledge and Wisdom

Knowledge: learnings gain from reading materials, experiences and practices

Wisdom: instinct learnings or inborn, human beings do have this one but very rare.

[Fabs]

Knowledge and Wisdom, parati nasa puso ko ito at isipan.

Siguro pag meron ng USPTA member dito sa PTO gumawa na sila ng certification para sa mga coaches, hehe. DW ano na pala ngyari sa mga nagpacertify dati?

[SLP888]

Bai Peds, I teach more on WISDOM than KNOWLEDGE because maybe I'm lacking of knowledge.

[Nadale]

Bai Peds, I teach more on WISDOM than KNOWLEDGE because maybe I'm lacking of knowledge.

Hehehehe parang in someway connected parin .... 

[altodds]

I teach with both.
Wisdom supports my knowledge, My Knowledge guides my wisdom and it happens like magic!!!

[racketwiz]

You cannot teach what you do not know.... i can not teach my child how to read if i cannot read myself.... can you? I'm talking about higher tennis instruction. The indepth of tennis..
   I say the likes of SLP, JUn Suarez, Eddie cruz, Alex Marcial,Rod Cabato and the likes are the ONLY qualified Tennis Coaches.. They have earned their marks and qualifications.
   The rest certified or not, may teach or coach but only to certain level.. perhaps just the basic strokes, serves etc, stroke productions...........but the heart of tennis is the competition, where knowledge thru experience is THE ONLY qualifying factor that counts...this Also requires understanding the mental aspect and personality of the student/..   Remember there is no measure of what is correct in tennis. It is about your own style where you develop your own performance..
    Remember the true test is the coaches achievements... other than that .. you are throwing your money away

Robert Lansdorp
Nick Bollettieri
Rick Macci
Billy Stearns
Bob Brett
Pete Fischer
Ed Krass

These are some of the tennis’ coaching greats. Three of these played some college tennis, two of these couldn’t hit a forehand, none of these were good enough to make the pro tour.  Tennis-playing experience notwithstanding, I don’t think being coached by any one of these people is like throwing money away.

A player’s skill and competitive resume is not a primary denominator of coaching skills.  Some of the best coaches are some of the worst competitive players and vice versa. It is not for us to say who is a true qualified coach or not by simply looking at their accomplishments as players. If this is the only litmus test, then all of the people I listed should be dismissed as unqualified.

[poordoy]

Racks,
   SOme people are born into tennis families and had the best opportunities, let us not assume the guys you named are not at all could be pro qualities, many reasons can hinder being on the top. Like our own people, I believe we have the talents but  lack the opportunities to become world class players. I say you could be if born into that, knowing you have the love of the game.. but your lack of world class competition experience definitely is a handicap... you never know what to expect...how could you know? and what can you teach?
   

[pedrolabasulo]

Bai Peds, I teach more on WISDOM than KNOWLEDGE because maybe I'm lacking of knowledge.

I teach with both.
Wisdom supports my knowledge, My Knowledge guides my wisdom and it happens like magic!!!

that is why, you both are called one of the pillars of PTO / TP.Org, and sharing your wisdom and knowledge makes you prosper  on your own endeavor 

[racketwiz]

Racks,
   SOme people are born into tennis families and had the best opportunities, let us not assume the guys you named are not at all could be pro qualities, many reasons can hinder being on the top. Like our own people, I believe we have the talents but  lack the opportunities to become world class players. I say you could be if born into that, knowing you have the love of the game.. but your lack of world class competition experience definitely is a handicap... you never know what to expect...how could you know? and what can you teach?

I understand your point, but as I've said, a player's skill and competitive resume is not a primary denominator of coaching skills. I just disagree with the premise that the only qualified tennis coaches are players who have world-class competition experience. None of the people I listed has had the extensive world-class competition experience that would make them qualified tennis coaches under your standard.

The foundation of a player's game begins with the first awkward swing. Many, if not all, top players have an "unqualified" coach to thank for putting them on the right track during their formative years. Young players who make it to the IMG Academies get there because some nameless "unqualified" coach honed their strokes. Pete Sampras, for instance, gives credit to Pete Fischer, a pediatrician, for molding his game into what became a record-breaking and legendary career.

Tennis coaches, whether qualified or not under your standards, should be commended for the work they put in to teach the game and help develop young players who show promise and aptitude. I am not a coach, but I think its harsh to say that hiring the services of "unqualified" coaches under your standards is like "throwing your money away".

[LitoGarcia]

Racks,
   SOme people are born into tennis families and had the best opportunities, let us not assume the guys you named are not at all could be pro qualities, many reasons can hinder being on the top. Like our own people, I believe we have the talents but  lack the opportunities to become world class players. I say you could be if born into that, knowing you have the love of the game.. but your lack of world class competition experience definitely is a handicap... you never know what to expect...how could you know? and what can you teach?

I understand your point, but as I've said, a player's skill and competitive resume is not a primary denominator of coaching skills. I just disagree with the premise that the only qualified tennis coaches are players who have world-class competition experience. None of the people I listed has had the extensive world-class competition experience that would make them qualified tennis coaches under your standard.

The foundation of a player's game begins with the first awkward swing. Many, if not all, top players have an "unqualified" coach to thank for putting them on the right track during their formative years. Young players who make it to the IMG Academies get there because some nameless "unqualified" coach honed their strokes. Pete Sampras, for instance, gives credit to Pete Fischer, a pediatrician, for molding his game into what became a record-breaking and legendary career.

Tennis coaches, whether qualified or not under your standards, should be commended for the work they put in to teach the game and help develop young players who show promise and aptitude. I am not a coach, but I think its harsh to say that hiring the services of "unqualified" coaches under your standards is like "throwing your money away".

I really appreciate your explanations on all our topic. Mabuhay Ka!

People like you, slp, altods and the rest really helps us understand the game we love so much.

[poordoy]

Boys,
  You are generalizing the word" qualified coach"  as it is the same category as a trainer or instructor. Coaches not just teach the basics but the core of the game. the mental aspect of tennis. which separates the boys form the men. Yes there are lots of boys,, but why pay a boy, when you can it from a the real man?
   The Richard Williams and the  likes? Youre right they never had the results, but i ponder if their prodigies are successful because of discipline & respect in leiu of a qualified tennis coaching.
On many cases it is the players drive, respect, talents and discipline that make them to the top..regardless.. remember Federer?
   Im sorry to burst your bubble, if i have said it harshly. But I agree the best teacher to instill the foundation is your parents, just like the Williams sisters, but to go to college, they are going to need someone more that Richard? or Pete Fischer? I would seriously reconsider..

[Addie_56ers]

 

 Guys ! you are both right! it depends on the player where he is comfortable with as junbug said you dont have to be agood  player to coach just undestand the game maybe! ..as for poordoy well he wants a former top class player thats also a plus factor coz he can explain to his or her ward the discipline needed in order to attain there goals in playing our beloved game ... GUYS1 thank you very much for the insights more power to you both!

[Nadale]

 

 Guys ! you are both right! it depends on the player where he is comfortable with as junbug said you dont have to be agood  player to coach just undestand the game maybe! ..as for poordoy well he wants a former top class player thats also a plus factor coz he can explain to his or her ward the discipline needed in order to attain there goals in playing our beloved game ... GUYS1 thank you very much for the insights more power to you both!

Sir Addie,,,,, Question po. What comes first? The chicken or the egg?   

[LitoGarcia]

On my very personal opinion, top or ranked players who retired from the tour opt to stay away from coaching. (Please correct me if I'm wrong here).
Or could you list a few top ranked player who became a great coach as wella nd make his ward a true champion?

Like Pete Sampras, Andrei Agassi, Bjorn Borg, John McEnroe are they coaching right now?

Please enlighten us more.

[Addie_56ers]

 partner jimmy connors handled roddick for awhile guy forget is handling the french davis cup team pete sampras was handled by the late tim gullikson.. and i think some top ranked players tried there hands in coaching

[LitoGarcia]

 partner jimmy connors handled roddick for awhile guy forget is handling the french davis cup team pete sampras was handled by the late tim gullikson.. and i think some top ranked players tried there hands in coaching

Thanks pres for clarification.

[racketwiz]

From what I’ve seen, as the player progresses in the level of play, so does the level of coaching. Some coaches have the ability push the right buttons to unlock a player’s potential at every level, while other coaches prefer to specialize on a specific aspect of a player’s game. It is not uncommon for players at competitive levels to reach out to coaches other than their own who specialize in fine-tuning certain components of their game. Although players at the top echelons of the game may or may not have an "official" coach per se, they do consult with specialized coaches on unpublicized short-term or per-session basis. Among the notable specialized coaches are Lansdorp for groundstrokes, Etcheberry for fitness and Loehr for the mental aspect of the game. We’ve also seen players tap coaches for specific surfaces such as Higueras for clay and Pickard for grass.

There are recreational coaches, developmental coaches, high school and college coaches, high-performance coaches, professional tour coaches, “home” coaches when players are between tournaments, and “travelling” coaches when players are on the road. Point is, there are many facets of coaching. Many former pro tour players get into coaching as a second career at different levels of the game. The same is true for many players who never went beyond college varsity in NCAA Divs. I, II, or III., much less play on the pro tour, but that doesn’t make them any less qualified than those who have.

I take offense to blanket statements like “only qualified tennis coaches are players who have world-class competition experience” and that it is like “throwing money away” if you hire the services of coaches who are non-qualified according to this misguided criteria.  Having such world-class competitive experience is certainly not “the only qualifying factor”. I respect that this is one person’s opinion, but there are several coaches and tennis professionals in our membership, and unqualified statements like these undermine their credibility, trivializes their passion for the sport and devalues their efforts to grow the game.

World-class competitive experience can help but is not necessary.  In fact, it might even be a detriment.  In some ways, the difference between a good player and a great player on the pro circuit is a subtle bad habit or a mental block. These are bad things that can be unwittingly passed along by a tour-experienced coach to a developing player.  The sport of tennis is in a constant state of flux. The finesse serve-and-volley player has been supplanted by the baseline-bashing power player. Speedy counter-punchers have given way to the cerebral all-rounder.  Racket equipment technology has evolved to a point where today’s players are able to create shots that never was possible before. Some lessons learned from playing the tour 10 years ago may no longer apply today. Tour experience may look good on the resume but it’s not a sure-fire guarantee of coaching success.

We can all accept constructive criticisms and be involved in a healthy and informative discourse regarding our sport. Nevertheless, let us offer encouragement, support and constructive ideas rather than cast aspersions on the work of trainers, instructors, coaches and other tennis professionals who do this for a living.

[Addie_56ers]

 WELL SAID RACKET! MAYBE THIS WILL PUT AN END YO THIS THREAD! OR ANY OTHER OPINOINS ARE WELCOME! KEEP ON POSTING! MORE POWER!

[poordoy]

Raks,
   This is an open forum, if you are offended by statements as these, this is not a place to voice out your views as well. Unfortunately, Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. You too.  You are taking a personal beating unnecessarily on a general topic. No one is pointing a gun at your head. Cool ka lang dyan..baka maheart attack la lang..Wisdom says " if you can not stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". I teach tennis myself, but i do not pride myself of being a qualified coach. I'm just a goofer earning doing what i like to do.. And i dont take offense out of the TRUTH. sori, it feeels good to say it..lol
   

[racketwiz]

Why is it unfortunate that everyone is entitled to his opinion? Like you said, it is an open forum. If you think that this is not the place to voice out my views, then I could just as well say that this is not the place for you to make unqualified statements and inject animosity.

I don’t think I’m getting a personal beating out of this. I think you’re the one who’s beating yourself up. Not to pat myself on the back but you have to agree my responses are more substantive than yours. I’m not angry, I’m simply offering an appropriate and certainly valid counterpoint.  No reason for me to get out of the kitchen while I’m grilling you. (sori, it feels good to say it. Lol)

It’s sad that a self-proclaimed tennis instructor would call himself a goofer who does not take pride in his work. You are precisely the kind of instructor/coach that students should avoid because quite simply, hiring someone like you would in fact be, in your own words, “like throwing money away”.  Take your own advice and stop taking the money that’s being thrown your way by unsuspecting students.  Truth is what you perceive it to be. In this case, the truth you speak of describes you. Just because you believe that a tennis teacher like yourself is not qualified doesn’t mean that all others that are in the same boat as you are just as bad.

Having said that, I would advice you to pick up some coaching and/or instructional material, perhaps undergo USPTA/PTR training or certification, or hook up with an experienced coach and learn from them. Better yet, use our resources here at PTO.  We have several experienced coaches here. Open up a dialogue, I’m sure they can help you upgrade your coaching/teaching skills. Above all, have some self-esteem and inject some pride into your work.  These will rub off on your students and that’s a good thing.  In many cases, your attitude towards your work is a peephole to the person that you are.

[pedrolabasulo]

this is democracy at work....everybody is entitled to his/her own opinion, this is only an open forum... thus nothing is personal 

[altodds]

I agree with Don Pedz, coz' Klasmeyt ko yan, and bright!!!

[poordoy]

raks,
   I can travel to where you are and show me,demonstrate your knowledge on court. You seem like a vey likable and competitive guy. Full of principles. email me privately and I want you to show me your point. I can always learn from qualified and unqualified coaches both... at least i can say " yes your right, i take my word back and apologize" I will even pay you for your hourly rate, that if you beat me. start your regiment coach.. lets have fun.. I need to be proven wrong in action. Im 48 yrs old. i do not play anymore. but im very much curious on what you got ..
This will be a good excuse for me to play motivationally..

[racketwiz]

doy

Thanks. I am a very likable guy hehehe.  No need for private email to show you my point.  It’s already been posted here. All you have to do is back read. When you do, please read slowly because apparently you missed the part where I said I’m not a coach.

Nevertheless, what will a tennis match between you and me accomplish as far as this discussion is concerned?  Will kicking my butt off the court prove you’re right, or will it serve to appease your bruised ego? Playing this out on a tennis court does not change the core issue of our discussion, and appeasing your ego is just plain selfish.

Look, I don’t want you to spend money travelling to where I am. More importantly, you’re 48 years old and you don’t play anymore. Therefore, I don’t want you to strain and hurt yourself.  I know how it is at this age. Discretion, my friend, is the better part of valor.

It’s okay for you to apologize to all the coaches in this forum, either qualified or unqualified by your standards. Nothing wrong with taking your words back. I’m sure the forum will understand and won’t hold it against you.

You should get back to playing. It’s good exercise, good for your heart and body. If you need some motivation to play again, I’m sure there are unqualified coaches in your area that you can hit balls with and prove your coaching theories correct.  Some day, I look forward to sitting down with you over a cup of latte macchiato and having a rather amicable conversation about the sport.

Our differences in opinion can easily be settled by your answer to a simple question:

Dennis van der Meer, Nick Bollettieri and Bob Brett have zero world-class competitive experience.  Do you believe that they are NOT qualified to be tennis coaches and hiring their services is like throwing money away?

[poordoy]

raks,
  You can argue all you want, you can run, and you can even hide if you are scared, but i would not endorse someone to coach or train ANYONE without the competitive top playing experience. Im sorry i cannot apologize to you and all unqualified coaches. I would not advise anyone to throw their money away.

So if you are not a coach, then don't worry no one wants to get their money back from you.. IF you feel confident about the sports prove yourself, play to see if you can apply what you teach. See how it feels to be scared shitless in front of thousands of spectators.. if you have not been there.. dont even talk about it..
          Really IM just looking for someone to have fun in the court. You would be fun to play around with.. he he. Someone in an emotional distress of insecurity.... and honestly, i do really like to travel to places to have fun playing. Would you be kind to host?

My bluff works, i just wanted to see how you respond He h eh e. you probably beat the krack out of me..

Ohhh, those coaches/trainers you mentioned, i can guarantee you they had some kind of experience of themselves you just dont know it. They cannot be leaders unless they learn to be followers... You can not teach what you do not know..dont throw any money away,  unless you're looking for a tax shelter!! he eh.
  By the way, seriously nasan ka sa east coast? hindi naman kita hahanapin eh!! assasinatin lang!! he he biro lang..

[kapuroy_56ers]

In a discussion such as this wherein the ideas are extremely opposite, one must be right and the other must be wrong.

It is right that everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but nobody is in the position to say what will anyone should do in any manner. The world needs new ideas, even coaching. Great inventions are mostly turned up by accident. Tennis strokes from service to groundstrokes evolve from time to time and each moment of change it was always been called unorthodox. Who taught of Nadals forehand. The first time i have seen his  i thought that it would not last, some critics too, ..... but we were all wrong.

RW. go on with your plans, kung talaga namang walang mahihita sa 'yo ang playar walang kukuha sa'yo, pero hanggang may kumukuha ..... you've proven yourself to be right.

[mikki_blinkme]

haaayyy nako. mainit a. well masasabi ko lang e iba iba ang opinyon ng bawat coach kahit parehas pa silang pro coach or club coach or coach-coachan. madalas lang na napapansin ko sa mga coach ng mga top-ranked player e dati silang pro-player na low ranked. im not saying na dapat lang na coach e former low ranked pro player. napuna ko lang po yun. basta iba iba sila ng opinyon. thats it pansit.

[Addie_56ers]

I LOOOOVVVVE! THIS THREAD! TALAGA ... KEEP ON POSTING GENTLEMEN!

[mikki_blinkme]

I LOOOOVVVVE! THIS THREAD! TALAGA ... KEEP ON POSTING GENTLEMEN!

tama ka sir addie. hahaha! may rivalry din kahit sa opinyon.  kumbaga mcenroe serve vs connor's return.