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[edreams11]

guys, any solo drills you can share with me about "Serving"? i have a couple of drills for solo player pero baka you can help me add some styles and techniques.

please share it here! this is also to help others who want to improve their serve. recently, magastos ang magpa-coach eh hehe global eco crisis..

thanks fellow ptos!

[whizzard]

serve from various positions i.e. near the center T up to the singles sideline. 

aim for the middle, and the two corners.

practice serve with different spins.

create targets: get 4 balls and make a pyramid and place it in a target area.

[mikki_blinkme]

ang hirap lagyan ng direction ang serve pag may spin basta aim ko lagi sa gitna para allownace. pag flat mas madaling lagyan ng placement.

[Tecnifibre_Guy]

ang hirap lagyan ng direction ang serve pag may spin basta aim ko lagi sa gitna para allownace. pag flat mas madaling lagyan ng placement.

Nasa FLAT mentally ka pa kasi mikki.  Practice lang  better yung may spin for consistency, flat is good if you have enough power to blast an ace. 

Para di OT:

@Edreams  Try to write a letter on your balls. W for wide and T is for straight down the T, but only look for the letter after you toss the ball.   

[jov]

bale wala po ba ang flat serve kung di rin po ganun kalakas?

[danmbuen]

thanks sa mga tips! =) i really need to improve my serve... susubukan ko ito

[Mordecai]

Assuming your serving motion does not need work anymore...I suggest you master your second serve muna...you should have a consistent second serve so you can avoid double faulting in matches which gives your opponent an opportunity to break you.  Spin gives your second serve a bigger margin of error without losing power that's why it is recommended, rather than flat second serves that's hit with less power.

Once your second serve is reliable, then you can focus on the first serve.

[Mordecai]

thanks sa mga tips! =) i really need to improve my serve... susubukan ko ito

Dan, ganun pa rin ba serve motion mo?  Parang high forehand?   I suggest you search You Tube for tennis serve videos and learn from them.

The main thing is not to be afraid to use them in actual matches.  It is normal for your shot to get worse when trying something new (so I recommend lots of solo serving practice) before it gets better.

[edreams11]

Assuming your serving motion does not need work anymore...I suggest you master your second serve muna...you should have a consistent second serve so you can avoid double faulting in matches which gives your opponent an opportunity to break you.  Spin gives your second serve a bigger margin of error without losing power that's why it is recommended, rather than flat second serves that's hit with less power.

Once your second serve is reliable, then you can focus on the first serve.

yes mordecai, exactly what instructors say whenever I practice serve with them. Actually for both service, I apply spin. I'll try flat serves on my next solo drill. Any techniques you can share para di masyado boring? There are a couple of videos in youtube although minsan maganda din yung from own experiences drills. hehehe

[edreams11]

ang hirap lagyan ng direction ang serve pag may spin basta aim ko lagi sa gitna para allownace. pag flat mas madaling lagyan ng placement.

Nasa FLAT mentally ka pa kasi mikki.  Practice lang  better yung may spin for consistency, flat is good if you have enough power to blast an ace. 

Para di OT:

@Edreams  Try to write a letter on your balls. W for wide and T is for straight down the T, but only look for the letter after you toss the ball.   

Thanks TG and Whizzard!

TG! advance drill na yan ah?! biglaang decision!?! hehehe

[ruud]

ang hirap lagyan ng direction ang serve pag may spin basta aim ko lagi sa gitna para allownace. pag flat mas madaling lagyan ng placement.

Nasa FLAT mentally ka pa kasi mikki.  Practice lang  better yung may spin for consistency, flat is good if you have enough power to blast an ace. 

Para di OT:

@Edreams  Try to write a letter on your balls. W for wide and T is for straight down the T, but only look for the letter after you toss the ball.   

Thanks TG and Whizzard!

TG! advance drill na yan ah?! biglaang decision!?! hehehe

oo bigla talaga! ... pag toss mo, takbo ka pauwi! bigla mo naisip, kain muna ako!

[edreams11]

@ruud:  uwian na!!!

[ruud]

@ruud:  uwian na!!!

hahahaha!!

tapos, pag naglaro ka ng doubles at serve mo ... ginawa mo bigla!
magugulat lahat mga kalaro mo!

bigla kang pack-up!!

[edreams11]

@ruud:  uwian na!!!

hahahaha!!

tapos, pag naglaro ka ng doubles at serve mo ... ginawa mo bigla!
magugulat lahat mga kalaro mo!

bigla kang pack-up!!

actually bro there's truth to that! personal experience ko yan no! parang 70% ng serve ko fault... kakahiya sa kakampi ko.. so yun.. parang gusto ko na magpackup!!! ika nga "BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!" 

[LitoGarcia]

bale wala po ba ang flat serve kung di rin po ganun kalakas?

Pag walang power yung flat. para mo lang ibinigay sa kalaban mo yung point kasi kakainin lang niya yun.

[LitoGarcia]

Kailangan din is yung confidence. Bayaan mo munang mag fault ka yung mga pro nag fa fault din naman.

[Mordecai]

yes mordecai, exactly what instructors say whenever I practice serve with them. Actually for both service, I apply spin. I'll try flat serves on my next solo drill. Any techniques you can share para di masyado boring? There are a couple of videos in youtube although minsan maganda din yung from own experiences drills. hehehe

I don't know, I used to just go out there and just serve and serve.  Basta interesado ka kasi hindi naman boring.  Pero better siguro if you have a basket of balls to serve over and over, para di ka parati switch side ng switch side to pulot and then serve, although that's all I used to do before, as long as I had 6 balls masaya na ako.  Just keep serving.

[skywalker_1701]

Pareng edreams,

Just read my previous topic "Body Arc and Serving Power by Bill Price."  I'm sure this would help.

Just like what Whizzard said in his reply, put some markers on the "T" line (the left, middle and center).  Try to pick a target and aim for it.

When serving, toss it high enough and a little bit to your right.  The reason on why you need to toss it high is because you have more time to react to it.  Once you make a perfect toss, "bend", jump high enough, tighten your grip to make that arc and big follow through.

For spin, try to brush the ball with the racquet at the three'o clock position.  Constant practice is needed here.  I dunno when my served developed a spin but I got shocked when I learned about this.

[edreams11]

@sky! thanks! patikimin mo ko ng serve mo pagdating mo ha

[LitoGarcia]

@sky! thanks! patikimin mo ko ng serve mo pagdating mo ha

Bro, on my part, every time na idle ako i'm trying to visualize my serve. Also nag sha shadow serve din ako. Yun nga lang mukha akong sira na nag se serve ng wala naman hawak na raketa at bola. Pero ang na improve sa akin dito is yung timing and rhythm.

[edreams11]

@sky! thanks! patikimin mo ko ng serve mo pagdating mo ha

Bro, on my part, every time na idle ako i'm trying to visualize my serve. Also nag sha shadow serve din ako. Yun nga lang mukha akong sira na nag se serve ng wala naman hawak na raketa at bola. Pero ang na improve sa akin dito is yung timing and rhythm.

haha lito thanks for the tips bro! ako din actually madami-dami na din gusto magpasok sa kin sa munti sa kaka-shadow tennis 

[skywalker_1701]

No problem edreams!

Always keep in mind that if your toss is low, catch it again.  There is no violation on the number of times you toss the ball.  The game starts once you make the serve.   

One perfect example of this is during the 2007 finals of the Australian Open between Serena Williams and Maria Sharapova.  Serena tossed the ball ten (10) times before she served.  This caught Sharapova off guard and concentration.  What added more insult to her was after her final catch of the ball, she made a powerful cannon ball serve to chalk up an ace. 

[degie]

You can break down the service motion, and find out which one you need to improve.  For myself, I still want to improve my service toss, consistent placement and minimum or zero spin...

Before 'youtube' era, sariling sikap talaga, now there are lots of videos, I sometimes watch yung kay 'FYTB'- fuzzy yellow tennis balls, meron din syang sariling site.

For those who want to hone their 'serve and volley' moves, you can put the ball basket at the T, serve and move towards the T, pick up a ball and return to the serving area...Serve again.

[Tecnifibre_Guy]

Technology has really helped in giving us more information talaga.  Anyway one more thing is to capture yourself on video para mas madali mo ma visualize what you are doing and maybe try to emulate any of the pros 

[danmbuen]

thanks sa mga tips! =) i really need to improve my serve... susubukan ko ito

Dan, ganun pa rin ba serve motion mo?  Parang high forehand?   I suggest you search You Tube for tennis serve videos and learn from them.

The main thing is not to be afraid to use them in actual matches.  It is normal for your shot to get worse when trying something new (so I recommend lots of solo serving practice) before it gets better.

Yes Jesse.  According to Moon and Knubs may pagka forehand pa rin hehehe.. I am still practicing tossing the ball higher like what you recommended, mas pumapasok kasi sya pati yng second serve.

[penny_hardaway]

ayos parang shadow boxing.

@sky! thanks! patikimin mo ko ng serve mo pagdating mo ha

Bro, on my part, every time na idle ako i'm trying to visualize my serve. Also nag sha shadow serve din ako. Yun nga lang mukha akong sira na nag se serve ng wala naman hawak na raketa at bola. Pero ang na improve sa akin dito is yung timing and rhythm.

[penny_hardaway]

ako naman I try to hit the ball on its peak, tapos hahampasin ko ng flat.

resulta: fault

hahaha

[mikki_blinkme]

ah basta tirahin nyo bola kung san kayo kumportable. hhaha! kahit mga pros iba iba the way they toss mapa big server o average lang.

[LitoGarcia]

ah basta tirahin nyo bola kung san kayo kumportable. hhaha! kahit mga pros iba iba the way they toss mapa big server o average lang.

Pero kung titinan mo talaga toss nila, isa lang, halos 12 o'clock lang so nasa sa kanila na iyon kung top spin, flat, wide or american twist.   

[mikki_blinkme]

yes because pro sila. mahirap din kasing mag emulate ng mga tira ng mga pros. kasi fully developed na mga strokes nila.

well back to reality... nakakaserve lang ako pag may match na so doon lang ang pagkakataon na makapagserve. madalas na praktis ko e for my 2nd serve. so pag lamang na lamang na ako sa kalaban ko or serving for the match dun ko try yung magiba iba ng serve.

[mikki_blinkme]

pero pag maaga sa court ayun serve tlg madalas tapos a little bit of walling.

[LitoGarcia]

yes because pro sila. mahirap din kasing mag emulate ng mga tira ng mga pros. kasi fully developed na mga strokes nila.

well back to reality... nakakaserve lang ako pag may match na so doon lang ang pagkakataon na makapagserve. madalas na praktis ko e for my 2nd serve. so pag lamang na lamang na ako sa kalaban ko or serving for the match dun ko try yung magiba iba ng serve.

Even during the game try mo mag serve ng flat or not your 2nd serve. this will also give you the confidence to serve.

[mikki_blinkme]

yes because pro sila. mahirap din kasing mag emulate ng mga tira ng mga pros. kasi fully developed na mga strokes nila.

well back to reality... nakakaserve lang ako pag may match na so doon lang ang pagkakataon na makapagserve. madalas na praktis ko e for my 2nd serve. so pag lamang na lamang na ako sa kalaban ko or serving for the match dun ko try yung magiba iba ng serve.

Even during the game try mo mag serve ng flat or not your 2nd serve. this will also give you the confidence to serve.

korek sir. pero di pa ako confident sa 2nd serve ko kaya 1st serve ko madalas spin pa rin para praktis at magkatiwala sa 2nd serve.

[Tecnifibre_Guy]

ah basta tirahin nyo bola kung san kayo kumportable. hhaha! kahit mga pros iba iba the way they toss mapa big server o average lang.

Mikki kahit mga pros they have to follow certain basic principles.  Pros service motion you should avaoid emulating are Mcenroe's and Edberg's masyadong complicated and requires a whole lot of flexiblity.  Pro's we should emulate are Goran Ivanisevic he never had a service related injury and Andre Agassi for his 2nd serve kick serve.  Andy Roddick's serve is also a nice fluid motion plus his motion starts with his front foot stepping back... you automatically avoid being called on a foot fault.

@edreams hope these will help



Roddick's Stance

Some commentary and notes on Roddicks motion



Andy's Pushoff

Ok go practice na!  Pm me your email I can send you the full article 

[jov]

ah basta tirahin nyo bola kung san kayo kumportable. hhaha! kahit mga pros iba iba the way they toss mapa big server o average lang.

Mikki kahit mga pros they have to follow certain basic principles.  Pros service motion you should avaoid emulating are Mcenroe's and Edberg's masyadong complicated and requires a whole lot of flexiblity.  Pro's we should emulate are Goran Ivanisevic he never had a service related injury and Andre Agassi for his 2nd serve kick serve.  Andy Roddick's serve is also a nice fluid motion plus his motion starts with his front foot stepping back... you automatically avoid being called on a foot fault.

@edreams hope these will help



Roddick's Stance

Some commentary and notes on Roddicks motion



Andy's Pushoff

Ok go practice na!  Pm me your email I can send you the full article 

wow grabe to sir tg ah, tnx so much for posting!

[edreams11]

@TG - ngyon ko lang nalaman to sir, na nagbabackoff pala yung front foot ni roddick during service. my email is edreams11@gmail.com. sir its also displayed in my profile.

thanks sir!

[mikki_blinkme]

astig yan a. GORAN! Idol ko din yun a. Sir sinubukan ko na yung kay edberg. Sakit sa likod. Hahaha!

Sir TG How about service ni Lendl? Ayun yung medyo ineemulate ko kasi parang dun ako pinaka relax. Yung kina mcenroe at sampras mahirap parang feeling ko babagsak ako. Hahaha!

[mikki_blinkme]

how about one of my big serve GOD din Richard Krajicek? Kaso parang ang hirap timing ng mga toss nila ambilis nila pinalo. mababa sila magtoss.

[jov]

ah basta tirahin nyo bola kung san kayo kumportable. hhaha! kahit mga pros iba iba the way they toss mapa big server o average lang.

Mikki kahit mga pros they have to follow certain basic principles.  Pros service motion you should avaoid emulating are Mcenroe's and Edberg's masyadong complicated and requires a whole lot of flexiblity.  Pro's we should emulate are Goran Ivanisevic he never had a service related injury and Andre Agassi for his 2nd serve kick serve.  Andy Roddick's serve is also a nice fluid motion plus his motion starts with his front foot stepping back... you automatically avoid being called on a foot fault.

@edreams hope these will help



Roddick's Stance

Some commentary and notes on Roddicks motion



Andy's Pushoff

Ok go practice na!  Pm me your email I can send you the full article 

sir tg can break down rafa's serve also? ok lang po ba? thank you so much po sir!

[Tecnifibre_Guy]

guys i just got this off an article in the internet also... nag free membership before tennisone so I just got this off their site...