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« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2009, 09:28:49 PM »

Francis, there are times pag mahina sa serve ang partner mo hirap maging aggressive netter. grabe kc ang returns ng receiver pag weak server ang partner mo, di mo manakaw yung bola nya hehehe.

Hi Edreams - I believe this is a different scenario. But this is true, if your partner's serve is weak and the receiver's return is exploding, you may want to play in a neutral position. If you are not yet comfortable at net, you may also want to back-up a little bit.

Dun nga sa last tournament na sinalihan ko sa Nolta. Naka tama ako ng 2 netter kasi ang hina ng serve nung kakampi niya. Dyahi ako Embarrassed
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« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2009, 10:10:50 PM »

So what is it that you normally do? Where do you position yourself? What adjustments do you make?

napipilitan akong magback-off talaga even though this is my weakness. pag lumapit kc ako sa net kawawa yung kakampi ko pag naglob agad yung opponent. habol hininga!



Greetings edreams:

This is what we normaly do, if my partner doesn't have a big serve and we are bombarded by big forehands everytime. I just stand closer to the net and just protect myself and my sider of the court. I don't attemp to steal the ball. I just wait patiently for something I can pounce on. It'll be up to the guy at the baseline to retrieve everything that passes above or through me. It's his penitence for not having a big serve or not knowing how to place the ball in the receivers weak side.

And ofcourse as the guys before me have mentioned, communication plays a big part.
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« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2009, 10:20:51 PM »

So what is it that you normally do? Where do you position yourself? What adjustments do you make?

napipilitan akong magback-off talaga even though this is my weakness. pag lumapit kc ako sa net kawawa yung kakampi ko pag naglob agad yung opponent. habol hininga!

hi edreams - i was actually picturing a scenario where a hard-hit groundstroke is aimed at you because of the weak serve coming from your partner. Yung Lob pala ang concern mo kasi hirap ka sa pag-atras to respond to the lob. Tama ba?

bro francis, backing-off away from the net to hit a volley or "on-the-rise" ang isa sa weak points ko. for me kc madali lang kc pag near the net ka magvolley. pag lumayo ka sa net and stand in the middle of the court hirap sambutin ng bola through volley or on-the-rise. gosh bang bang!  Shocked Embarrassed

napipicture mo ba bro? hehe hirap kc minsan explain eh. i prepared a graphical presentation hehehe yung RED POSITION NG PLAYER ANG WEAK SPOT FOR ME to get a volley or on-the-rise. kaya naman ako nagbaback-off from the net gusto ko 2lungan ang partner ko who is not a fast runner to get an offensive lob. any drills? communication is not a problem but skills ng partner ko wahahaha Grin

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« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2009, 11:12:27 PM »

i wanted to post a reply but i sent you a pm instead. i hope it helps.
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« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2009, 12:31:32 AM »

i wanted to post a reply but i sent you a pm instead. i hope it helps.

bro francis! thanks! i think it really would help me improve my doubles game! mabuhiiii!
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« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2009, 12:58:23 PM »

@edreams,

With regards to your illustration, here is my two cents of contribution.  Again, communication is the key factor.  Don't be afraid to poach.  Just inform your partner that once in a while you will be doing this.

If you are going to the right, tell him to go left.  Go opposite directions to cover your court.  Grin
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« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2009, 01:11:57 PM »

pano ikacounter pag sabi ko sa partner ko (ako nagserserve) na nasa net si partner tapos ako serve then rush to the net sabay lob ng nagreceive deep sa side ng partner ko e halos nasa loob na ako service box at ang weight ko e pa-foreward pa? so yung partner ko muna bahala umatras?
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« Reply #57 on: June 08, 2009, 01:14:20 PM »

sabi daw samin e. pag medyo lugaw daw yung 2nd serve ng partner ko at ako netter e umtras muna daw ako pareho muna daw kame baseline tapos little ny little sabay kaming lalapit sa net.
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« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2009, 01:32:47 PM »

So what is it that you normally do? Where do you position yourself? What adjustments do you make?

napipilitan akong magback-off talaga even though this is my weakness. pag lumapit kc ako sa net kawawa yung kakampi ko pag naglob agad yung opponent. habol hininga!

hi edreams - i was actually picturing a scenario where a hard-hit groundstroke is aimed at you because of the weak serve coming from your partner. Yung Lob pala ang concern mo kasi hirap ka sa pag-atras to respond to the lob. Tama ba?

bro francis, backing-off away from the net to hit a volley or "on-the-rise" ang isa sa weak points ko. for me kc madali lang kc pag near the net ka magvolley. pag lumayo ka sa net and stand in the middle of the court hirap sambutin ng bola through volley or on-the-rise. gosh bang bang!  Shocked Embarrassed

napipicture mo ba bro? hehe hirap kc minsan explain eh. i prepared a graphical presentation hehehe yung RED POSITION NG PLAYER ANG WEAK SPOT FOR ME to get a volley or on-the-rise. kaya naman ako nagbaback-off from the net gusto ko 2lungan ang partner ko who is not a fast runner to get an offensive lob. any drills? communication is not a problem but skills ng partner ko wahahaha Grin



Hi edreams, hindi ba mas magandang nasa middle ka or malapit sa service line kasi mas marami kang kang time na magreact sa volleys mo at the same time covering the possibilities of lobs?  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #59 on: June 08, 2009, 02:34:29 PM »

minsan naman po pwede mo ianticipate ang bola sa gitna kasi most of us club players return balls within the middle of the net kc mas mababa po e. tsaka rally natin palaging sa gitna ang balik so force of habit po sa gitna. yun nga lang po pag na passing shot ka sa side patay ka

ayun ang problema. pag napassing shot yung netter na laging nasa gitna na parang ayaw mamigay ng bola. pag napakaliwa ako passing sa kanan tapos sisisihin ako bakit daw wala ako sa kaliwa. tapos pag nagserve n volley ako magbubuhol kami sa isang side kasi sakin ang return  for sure. hahahaha! pano na to. mayabang pa minsan kakampi ko kala mo magaling netter na nga di pa matapos tapos yung point sa kavovolley nya.

parang kilala ko sinasabi mo ah, sino kay conan at hercules to?  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #60 on: June 08, 2009, 02:36:04 PM »

sabi daw samin e. pag medyo lugaw daw yung 2nd serve ng partner ko at ako netter e umtras muna daw ako pareho muna daw kame baseline tapos little ny little sabay kaming lalapit sa net.

i dont know kung tama to, pero tingin ko eh kung sino unang maka anticipate sa inyo sya dapat humabol sa bola.
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« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2009, 05:32:18 PM »

sabi daw samin e. pag medyo lugaw daw yung 2nd serve ng partner ko at ako netter e umtras muna daw ako pareho muna daw kame baseline tapos little ny little sabay kaming lalapit sa net.

hi mikki - if the receivers are whipping the weak second serve of your partner and you feel that you being at the net is not doing you any good (pinapatamaan ka or nagugulat ka sa mga nakakatakot na groundstroke nila and you can't respond with a good volley) then may be you need to step back to a more comfortable position. Pero kung hindi naman and the receivers are avoiding your wicked drive volleys thus they normally do a cross court return, then by all means stay there and continue to pressure your opponent at the net.

Analyze. See what's working and continue doing it. Check what's not working and check with your partner how you can address it. Goodluck!

Also, napansin ko madalas weak ang partner mo. I suggest pag-aralan mo din pumili ng magandang partner. Paturo ka kay Pres. Addie, magaling pumili ng partner. Hehehe... Pres. Addie, peace tayo!  Grin
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« Reply #62 on: June 08, 2009, 05:37:40 PM »

pano ikacounter pag sabi ko sa partner ko (ako nagserserve) na nasa net si partner tapos ako serve then rush to the net sabay lob ng nagreceive deep sa side ng partner ko e halos nasa loob na ako service box at ang weight ko e pa-foreward pa? so yung partner ko muna bahala umatras?

simply tell your partner that you are going to serve and volley and for him to take care of the lobs while you rush to the net.
syempre dapat alam na niya ito before your serve.
kung ayaw niya, then may be you need to make adjustments to your play.
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« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2009, 05:50:58 PM »

OMG! galing sir francis... tnx for the advice... sana magimprove na doubles ko... kasi minsan uu nga di compatible yung styles namin ng partner ko. baka nga ganun nga tlg. dapat tlg syncronised. tnx again sir!
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« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2009, 11:06:26 PM »

Additional information on communication.

A doubles team is a partnership, not unlike a relationship in life.  Occasionally there are unforeseen circumstances that require communication to resolve issues.  It's often these situations that can make or break even the most talented combination.

When choosing your own doubles partner remember that regardless of how well your skills may combine, in the end what will determine your success or failure as a doubles team will be how well you support each other and navigate through difficult situations, continuing to build your team's dynamic.

Continued communication is clearly something that can make or break a doubles combination and will definitely play a big part in taking advantage of that first match point.
 
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« Reply #65 on: June 09, 2009, 12:53:44 AM »

wow daming information dito! parang info overload me po ah heheh pero sana po gumaling din ako sa doubles. now i play singles kc nahihiya pa ko pag may partner eh. kakahiya pag madami ako errors  Smiley
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« Reply #66 on: June 09, 2009, 08:14:18 PM »

Also, choose carefully who takes the forehand and backhand side. Someone with a good backhand doesn't necessarily have to take the backhand side. Receiving a serve at the deuce court and hitting an inside-out backhand is harder than hitting a crosscourt backhand in the ad court. Usually, the steadier player should take the backhand side, because there are 6 instances where the receiver on the backhand side decides the game, (0-40, 40-0, 30-40, 40-30, Ad in, Ad out) while the forehand side only has 2 (15-40, 40-15). Next time your partner asks you which side to be on, choose wisely.  Wink
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« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2009, 02:05:04 PM »

Also, choose carefully who takes the forehand and backhand side. Someone with a good backhand doesn't necessarily have to take the backhand side. Receiving a serve at the deuce court and hitting an inside-out backhand is harder than hitting a crosscourt backhand in the ad court. Usually, the steadier player should take the backhand side, because there are 6 instances where the receiver on the backhand side decides the game, (0-40, 40-0, 30-40, 40-30, Ad in, Ad out) while the forehand side only has 2 (15-40, 40-15). Next time your partner asks you which side to be on, choose wisely.  Wink

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« Reply #68 on: June 19, 2009, 04:22:37 PM »

Also, choose carefully who takes the forehand and backhand side. Someone with a good backhand doesn't necessarily have to take the backhand side. Receiving a serve at the deuce court and hitting an inside-out backhand is harder than hitting a crosscourt backhand in the ad court. Usually, the steadier player should take the backhand side, because there are 6 instances where the receiver on the backhand side decides the game, (0-40, 40-0, 30-40, 40-30, Ad in, Ad out) while the forehand side only has 2 (15-40, 40-15). Next time your partner asks you which side to be on, choose wisely.  Wink

teka? pangkanan b to bro?   Cheesy
Pangkanan.  Grin
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« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2009, 12:17:14 PM »

Also, choose carefully who takes the forehand and backhand side. Someone with a good backhand doesn't necessarily have to take the backhand side. Receiving a serve at the deuce court and hitting an inside-out backhand is harder than hitting a crosscourt backhand in the ad court. Usually, the steadier player should take the backhand side, because there are 6 instances where the receiver on the backhand side decides the game, (0-40, 40-0, 30-40, 40-30, Ad in, Ad out) while the forehand side only has 2 (15-40, 40-15). Next time your partner asks you which side to be on, choose wisely.  Wink

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Pangkanan.  Grin

hahahaha! for a moment, i thought this is bias! kiddin'!  Smiley Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2009, 02:07:47 PM »

Francis, there are times pag mahina sa serve ang partner mo hirap maging aggressive netter. grabe kc ang returns ng receiver pag weak server ang partner mo, di mo manakaw yung bola nya hehehe.

Hi Edreams - I believe this is a different scenario. But this is true, if your partner's serve is weak and the receiver's return is exploding, you may want to play in a neutral position. If you are not yet comfortable at net, you may also want to back-up a little bit.

Dun nga sa last tournament na sinalihan ko sa Nolta. Naka tama ako ng 2 netter kasi ang hina ng serve nung kakampi niya. Dyahi ako Embarrassed
pARTNER! PART OF THE GAME!!! IM SURE YOU DID NOT DO IT ON PURPOSE!!! Wink
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« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2009, 05:39:06 PM »

Francis, there are times pag mahina sa serve ang partner mo hirap maging aggressive netter. grabe kc ang returns ng receiver pag weak server ang partner mo, di mo manakaw yung bola nya hehehe.

Hi Edreams - I believe this is a different scenario. But this is true, if your partner's serve is weak and the receiver's return is exploding, you may want to play in a neutral position. If you are not yet comfortable at net, you may also want to back-up a little bit.

Dun nga sa last tournament na sinalihan ko sa Nolta. Naka tama ako ng 2 netter kasi ang hina ng serve nung kakampi niya. Dyahi ako Embarrassed
pARTNER! PART OF THE GAME!!! IM SURE YOU DID NOT DO IT ON PURPOSE!!! Wink

Kahit on purpose! part of the game yon hehehe  Grin Just don't aim for the jewels bad na yon  Grin
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« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2009, 08:26:41 PM »

 Grin minsan magandang taktika yan para umatras yung netter next na magrereceive ka.  laugh be sure to hit very hard straight to his fckn face!  laugh
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« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2009, 09:37:10 PM »

Matapang si mikki ah! deretsohin nya ang kalaban!
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« Reply #74 on: July 10, 2009, 09:44:28 PM »

Matapang si mikki ah! deretsohin nya ang kalaban!

 laugh depende sa kalaban. pag kilala ko lang kalaban ko.  laugh takot ako sa away e.  laugh
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« Reply #75 on: July 10, 2009, 10:27:01 PM »

Matapang si mikki ah! deretsohin nya ang kalaban!

 laugh depende sa kalaban. pag kilala ko lang kalaban ko.  laugh takot ako sa away e.  laugh

pano kung si batista kalaban mo?  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #76 on: July 10, 2009, 11:14:36 PM »

Matapang si mikki ah! deretsohin nya ang kalaban!

 laugh depende sa kalaban. pag kilala ko lang kalaban ko.  laugh takot ako sa away e.  laugh

pano kung si batista kalaban mo?  Grin Grin Grin

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Matapang si mikki ah! deretsohin nya ang kalaban!

 laugh depende sa kalaban. pag kilala ko lang kalaban ko.  laugh takot ako sa away e.  laugh

pano kung si batista kalaban mo?  Grin Grin Grin

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« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2010, 09:23:18 PM »

Grin minsan magandang taktika yan para umatras yung netter next na magrereceive ka.  laugh be sure to hit very hard straight to his fckn face!  laugh

Just be ready to defend yourself against the same tactic. Tyak yan dederetsohin karin ng kalaban mo. Baka mas malakas pa ang hataw.
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