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« on: February 23, 2009, 02:18:34 PM » |
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Mga sir, i'm just curious paano po ba ang approach kung i volley ko ang isang underspin na ball? salamat po 
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2009, 05:55:18 PM » |
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kill!
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2009, 07:41:09 PM » |
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karlo, continental grip then push mo lang yung bola... yung push para patayin mo yung underspin effect ng bola... TAMA BA MIKKI?!!! hehehe
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2009, 08:16:09 PM » |
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If I hit the ball flat faced with my racket the ball will spin down to the net, so I tilt my racket face more and drop it lower than the oncoming sliced ball. That's how I used to do it in ping-pong, so ganun din approach ko sa tennis, it works but it needs practice.
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2009, 08:19:04 PM » |
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haha! edreams di ko alam basta kill ayun na yun. suntok agad or pwede ding lagyan mo rin ng konting underspin din para patay yung bola. patakbuhin mo lang lagi yung kalaban mo sa mga volleys mo para mapagod sa match. 
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2009, 09:12:06 PM » |
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oo tama nga medyo open face nung racket, kasi ako pag flat na salubong sa bola net nga ang punta ng bola pero pag medyo open face ok lng, hehe minsan ko lng magawa, ito. kadalasan sobrang open face yung racket ko lumolobo ang bola hahah baguhan pa kasi hehe. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 01:06:04 AM » |
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haha! edreams di ko alam basta kill ayun na yun. suntok agad or pwede ding lagyan mo rin ng konting underspin din para patay yung bola. patakbuhin mo lang lagi yung kalaban mo sa mga volleys mo para mapagod sa match.  haha oo nga bro kill lang! hirap kc explain sa technical terms e hehehe
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 04:47:45 AM » |
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honestly, hindi ko alam. pag nag vvolley ako laging may kasamang dasal.
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 09:55:14 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 11:05:39 AM » |
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basta untog. toink!
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"I think ang pinaka dapat natin pagbasehan is from the great Pete Sampras himself and nothing more. Kung meron mang nakakaalam niyan kung sino ang greatest si Pete yun. The rest wala ng weight kahit ano pang sabihin nila,wla naman sila sa position at hindi sila umabot jan." -CI
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 11:19:57 AM » |
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pare sama ka ba sa pioneer? sana makasama ko para makapalo na tyo!
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 11:24:52 AM » |
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pare sama ka ba sa pioneer? sana makasama ko para makapalo na tyo!
penny mukhang makakasama ko kay commander ians sa thu. pero pwede magrequest? wag muna tyo ladder match ha hehehehe kasi automatic panalo ka na eh. practice muna ko marami para kahit maka 2 games lang ako sa set natin masaya na ko wehehehe
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 11:26:58 AM » |
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 11:43:06 AM » |
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wow masaya ito isang tulog na lng actually dalawa kasama siesta, hehehe see you sa alapaap guys!
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 01:50:59 PM » |
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VOLLEY?... KUNG NASA NET KA NA DIRETSO MO SA OPPONENT MO PARA MA KOMANG SA PAG SALAG HEHEHE 
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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2009, 03:23:12 PM » |
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take it from the expert, once ko lang nakita si sir addie maglaro at taas kamay ako agad. galing mag volley, pede ba mag pa turo sir???  VOLLEY?... KUNG NASA NET KA NA DIRETSO MO SA OPPONENT MO PARA MA KOMANG SA PAG SALAG HEHEHE 
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2009, 04:06:35 PM » |
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2009, 04:25:29 PM » |
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VOLLEY?... KUNG NASA NET KA NA DIRETSO MO SA OPPONENT MO PARA MA KOMANG SA PAG SALAG HEHEHE  Sir Addie, bka naman pwede mo i-elaborate at bigyan kme ng pointers kung paano yung "DIRETSO" mo na. lalo na kung malakas ang spin with sidespin. tnx Sir. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2009, 04:37:13 PM » |
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VOLLEY?... KUNG NASA NET KA NA DIRETSO MO SA OPPONENT MO PARA MA KOMANG SA PAG SALAG HEHEHE  Sir Addie, bka naman pwede mo i-elaborate at bigyan kme ng pointers kung paano yung "DIRETSO" mo na. lalo na kung malakas ang spin with sidespin. tnx Sir.  bro, i think sinasabi ni sir addie go toward the body. eto kc pinakamahirap ibalik na volley, undecisive ka kung forehand or you'll go with the backhand. tama ba sir addie? correct me if im wrong ha hehehe
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2009, 05:19:41 PM » |
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bro edreams: easily said but hard to execute lalo na kung mabilisan ang laro. I hope may magreply and magshare ng technique nla dito but I doubt na meron hehe.
Usually a lot of underspin with sidespin ball will cause you errors sa volley. Or if mabalik mo man, floater for easy passing shot or smash. Im looking for the technical side here.
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2009, 05:38:24 PM » |
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bro edreams: easily said but hard to execute lalo na kung mabilisan ang laro. I hope may magreply and magshare ng technique nla dito but I doubt na meron hehe.
Usually a lot of underspin with sidespin ball will cause you errors sa volley. Or if mabalik mo man, floater for easy passing shot or smash. Im looking for the technical side here.
puteks! oo bro super duper hirap talga ibalik nyan hehehe. dali lang naman ikwento eh.. actually sa tennis lhat madali ikwento, pero hirap iimplement hehehe
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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2009, 08:12:06 PM » |
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at the beginner level, para sa akin, you don't need to make an spectacular shot sa volley. nothing fancy. hindi siguro ako agree sa sinabi ni mikki na "kill". ang dating kasi sa akin ng pagkakasabi e uupakan ng malakas yung bola. minsan dyan ka pa magkaka-error, pag nilalakasan mo ang tira (we're talking of volley di ba, where you have less time to execute your shot as compared to a groundstroke). mas agree ako sa sinabi ni mikki na "untog". and dating naman kasi sa akin nito e normal volley pero solid hindi tapyok. i don't think "untog" is similar sa "kill" or I may be wrong. hindi naman kasi na-elaborate ni mikki e. basta para sa akin, a solid volley into the open space will do. hindi man winner ang first volley mo, may be in your next shot benta na for the finisher. pero ang daling sabihin no!  syempre, kailangan nito ng practice. madali kasi sabihin e pero pagdating sa net hindi naman comfortable ang player. so, kelangan spend more time at the net para malaman mo ang feeling ng nasa net and so you can practice your volleys more. again, at the beginner level, nothing fancy. walang slice, walang spin, "untog" mo lang, patamain mo sa gitna ng raketa mo. at siyempre kailangan maging confortable ka din na lumapit sa net. the closer you are to the net, the higher is your chance na maitawid ang bola sa kabilang court pag nag-volley. so lapit sa net to execute your volleys. mahirap kaya mag-volley ng nasa baseline. 
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2009, 10:06:54 PM » |
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kill = kill your opponent. patamaan mo din sa bola nila.
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« Reply #23 on: February 24, 2009, 10:27:57 PM » |
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Mga sir, i'm just curious paano po ba ang approach kung i volley ko ang isang underspin na ball? salamat po  Greetings Karlo: I'm no expert but I believe the secret of the volley no matter if it's underspin, sidespin or topspin is in the legs. Focus on hitting the ball solidly with your racket infront, meeting the ball and executing your volley before the ball falls below your volley zone. Spins only makes us prone to errors because we are slow to meet the ball. Think about this, you're in a game and suddenly you're face to face with a ball with underspin but this time you moved forward to meet the ball, thus you are right on top of the ball, right within your volleying zone. What do you think will happen? I'll bet 9 out of 10 times you'll definitely put away this volley. Use your legs, don't just rely on your arms to meet the ball. Just my two cents
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2009, 11:18:44 AM » |
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tama si brad darkwing at si brad francis. always keep in mind na your ENEMY is the BALL. just keep your opponent off balance to setup a point in volley. pero syempre para makamit ito ay PRAKTIS. Ganun din ako praktis hanggang sa makuha ko lang kahit di perfect basta praktis lang lagi.
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« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2009, 11:20:23 AM » |
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tama si brad mikki, practice lang ng practice hehe.
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2009, 11:02:36 AM » |
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at the beginner level, para sa akin, you don't need to make an spectacular shot sa volley. nothing fancy. hindi siguro ako agree sa sinabi ni mikki na "kill". ang dating kasi sa akin ng pagkakasabi e uupakan ng malakas yung bola. minsan dyan ka pa magkaka-error, pag nilalakasan mo ang tira (we're talking of volley di ba, where you have less time to execute your shot as compared to a groundstroke). mas agree ako sa sinabi ni mikki na "untog". and dating naman kasi sa akin nito e normal volley pero solid hindi tapyok. i don't think "untog" is similar sa "kill" or I may be wrong. hindi naman kasi na-elaborate ni mikki e. basta para sa akin, a solid volley into the open space will do. hindi man winner ang first volley mo, may be in your next shot benta na for the finisher. pero ang daling sabihin no!  syempre, kailangan nito ng practice. madali kasi sabihin e pero pagdating sa net hindi naman comfortable ang player. so, kelangan spend more time at the net para malaman mo ang feeling ng nasa net and so you can practice your volleys more. again, at the beginner level, nothing fancy. walang slice, walang spin, "untog" mo lang, patamain mo sa gitna ng raketa mo. at siyempre kailangan maging confortable ka din na lumapit sa net. the closer you are to the net, the higher is your chance na maitawid ang bola sa kabilang court pag nag-volley. so lapit sa net to execute your volleys. mahirap kaya mag-volley ng nasa baseline.  EXACTLY!meron sa 5n6 halos idikit na ung katawan sa net,,,kaya pag sinalag ung bola bumabagsak lang sa kabila ng net!inuuntog lang,hehehehehe...medyo di nga lang magandang tignan,,kung baga e hinde graceful,just the same naibalik parin!
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« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2009, 02:08:24 PM » |
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« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2009, 06:15:43 PM » |
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sabi sakin ni kowch kaido go to the basic volley. un lang lagi nyang turo. isang bunggo na may konting tulak... always eyes on the ball.
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« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2009, 01:57:34 AM » |
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Mga sir, i'm just curious paano po ba ang approach kung i volley ko ang isang underspin na ball? salamat po  The reason behind why volleying an underspin ball goes into the net is because kulang sa tulak. Ang underspin kasi pinapalutang at pinapabagal ang bola. When someone slices the ball and you are in the net, go for the winning volley. Don't worry about the ball going long. The underspin will grip on the strings and return on your opponents court with topspin.
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« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2009, 10:16:30 AM » |
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The reason behind why volleying an underspin ball goes into the net is because kulang sa tulak. Ang underspin kasi pinapalutang at pinapabagal ang bola. When someone slices the ball and you are in the net, go for the winning volley. Don't worry about the ball going long. The underspin will grip on the strings and return on your opponents court with topspin.
wow. ang hirap nyan a. volley na may topspin? drive volley or swinging volley ba yan?
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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2009, 11:37:23 AM » |
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The reason behind why volleying an underspin ball goes into the net is because kulang sa tulak. Ang underspin kasi pinapalutang at pinapabagal ang bola. When someone slices the ball and you are in the net, go for the winning volley. Don't worry about the ball going long. The underspin will grip on the strings and return on your opponents court with topspin.
wow. ang hirap nyan a. volley na may topspin? drive volley or swinging volley ba yan? Hindi... Since underspin ung bola papunta sau, it will come back on your opponent's court with topspin. 
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2009, 11:10:54 PM » |
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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2009, 11:45:15 PM » |
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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2009, 10:43:47 AM » |
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I agree, but simply pushing the ball harder is not enough, especially against a ball with a heavy underspin (may mga matatalas ang slice talaga) and sliced low above the net. Okay lang kung underspin na floater. So besides pushing, the racket face needs to be tilted open also to minimize the bite of the underspin on the strings. And really need to make contact UNDER the ball, not just behind the ball. If you can push the ball deep back to the baseline back to your opponent mas effective.
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2009, 01:05:31 PM » |
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Tricky ang underspin na ball which causes error pg vinolley. Isa pa iba ang flight ng underspin d gaya ng sa topspin. Kung floater yung underspin mas maganda i-drive volley n lang. But kung matalas ang underspin mahirap.
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2009, 11:00:43 AM » |
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Classic example last night... WALANG NAKABALIK NG MAAYOS NA VOLLEY FROM AN UNDERSPIN BASELINE SHOT! nampucha oh! 
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« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2009, 09:26:04 PM » |
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Hi guys! Here is my contribution on the subject matter. This is Dennis Ralston's article in the book "Tennis Strokes and Strategies" on the topic about volleys. 1. The volley swing is short and compact: a quick slap; 2. The racket should be brought back no farther than the shoulder; 3. The wrist remains bent as the racket is snapped forward but should be firm at the moment of contact; 4. The point of contact should be well out in front of the body; 5. Your follow through is very short-the racket should not go beyond the ready position; 6. It is particularly important to keep your eye on the ball when volleying; 7. At the net, more points are won with placement than with power; and 8. Don't try for fantastic shots. If you do manage to pull one off, don't stand there admiring it; your opponent is not likely to share your delight, and there's always the chance he will return it. Hope this helps. Oks ba edreams 
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2009, 10:38:30 PM » |
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Hi guys! Here is my contribution on the subject matter. This is Dennis Ralston's article in the book "Tennis Strokes and Strategies" on the topic about volleys. 1. The volley swing is short and compact: a quick slap; 2. The racket should be brought back no farther than the shoulder; 3. The wrist remains bent as the racket is snapped forward but should be firm at the moment of contact; 4. The point of contact should be well out in front of the body; 5. Your follow through is very short-the racket should not go beyond the ready position; 6. It is particularly important to keep your eye on the ball when volleying; 7. At the net, more points are won with placement than with power; and 8. Don't try for fantastic shots. If you do manage to pull one off, don't stand there admiring it; your opponent is not likely to share your delight, and there's always the chance he will return it. Hope this helps. Oks ba edreams  nice tip skywalker!  musta na mga U2 and The Cure vinyl albums mo bro? hehehe
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« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2009, 12:04:01 AM » |
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Hi guys! Here is my contribution on the subject matter. This is Dennis Ralston's article in the book "Tennis Strokes and Strategies" on the topic about volleys. 1. The volley swing is short and compact: a quick slap; 2. The racket should be brought back no farther than the shoulder; 3. The wrist remains bent as the racket is snapped forward but should be firm at the moment of contact; 4. The point of contact should be well out in front of the body; 5. Your follow through is very short-the racket should not go beyond the ready position; 6. It is particularly important to keep your eye on the ball when volleying; 7. At the net, more points are won with placement than with power; and 8. Don't try for fantastic shots. If you do manage to pull one off, don't stand there admiring it; your opponent is not likely to share your delight, and there's always the chance he will return it. Hope this helps. Oks ba edreams  thnx for the info bro skywalker! 
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« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2009, 12:15:16 PM » |
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No worries mates! Here is another one. This is also from the same book but from Mr. Tony Trabert. His topic is "Rx for Backhand Volleys." 1. Watch the ball like a hawk; 2. Use a backhand grip; 3. Have your free hand on the throat of the racket; 4. Keep your wrist firm; 5. Tilt the face of the racket back slightly and use a chopping motion that moves from high to low; 6. Take a short jab at the ball with little or no backswing and no follow-through; and 7. Make contact as far out in front of the body as possible. For edreams, I still have my U2 albums. Si doc Russell ang may The Cure albums. What about your Duran Duran records  . Cheers everyone!
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« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2009, 01:02:17 AM » |
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thanks for the tips!!!! my soft copy ba kyo nyan mga yan hehehe pa post naman hehehe.
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