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« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2009, 07:30:25 AM » |
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I make the contact on the way up when I want to surprise my opponent.
One question is why all pro's toss the ball high and jump up to serve (for power) but not hitting the ball on way up?
As far as I can recall, only one player, Roscoe Tanner, hit the ball on the way up on his serve. Most, if not all pro players today hit their serves with the ball on the way down. I guess it's a timing thing. It seems easier to judge the ball's position when it's coming toward you as opposed to moving away from you. Plus, tossing the ball up and waiting for it to come down seems to give the player a bit more time to load up their legs and position their body for an effective,if not a powerful serve. On the other hand, hitting the ball on the way up (the quick serve) leaves the player with less time to load up.
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« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2009, 12:43:37 PM » |
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I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.
HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/Sir Pinoy thanks for the "service" tip but I normally toss the ball high so when i hit the ball with my racket, its on its way down. Right now, my service is not consistent (which is really a dilemna to me). My instructor told me that if you cannot have a good toss, you cannot execute a successful serve. I tried tossing the ball lower than the usual but i'm not comfortable with it. Any tips? Btw, i browsed your webpage but some of the pages are still under construction. Really excited to see it specially the "LESSONS" page. Hop you can construct the page soon! Sir Edreams11, how are you now? Kumusta downloading mo?  If you have a good high toss but can not execute a successful serve, based on my experience, try this one: 1. After tossing the ball, don't let go down your tossing arm, just maintain the arm still up as if you're pointing to the ball and bring it down only if you're about to hit ball. (Note: Hitting arm should be relax or loose (dapat di matigas at di nagpipigil)).  2. Aim at the service lines(it could be the T, the L or the center line) and not the net cord.....  3. Lastly, do not be afraid that you're service goes long.... Service that go long is better than service that goes to the net because it's easily adjusted...  thanks nadale! subukan ko tips mo. pero yung no.3 mo i can relate kc my first serve is usually long... madali iadjust. maya laro kmi ni commander ians eh ma-try nga hehe sus! ganun pa din palpak pa din serve ko.. tingin ko nasa player na problema eh 
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« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2009, 01:34:55 PM » |
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k lng yan bro edreams, laro lng ng laro. mafigure out mo rin yan eventually.
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« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2009, 05:20:00 PM » |
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I make the contact on the way up when I want to surprise my opponent.
One question is why all pro's toss the ball high and jump up to serve (for power) but not hitting the ball on way up?
As far as I can recall, only one player, Roscoe Tanner, hit the ball on the way up on his serve. Most, if not all pro players today hit their serves with the ball on the way down. I guess it's a timing thing. It seems easier to judge the ball's position when it's coming toward you as opposed to moving away from you. Plus, tossing the ball up and waiting for it to come down seems to give the player a bit more time to load up their legs and position their body for an effective,if not a powerful serve. On the other hand, hitting the ball on the way up (the quick serve) leaves the player with less time to load up. Sir racketwiz this is what i'm trying to point out dun sa quinote ko. I find it surprising that they are still teaching this kind of serve (hitting the ball on way up).
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« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2009, 06:22:36 PM » |
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I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.
HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/Sir Pinoy thanks for the "service" tip but I normally toss the ball high so when i hit the ball with my racket, its on its way down. Right now, my service is not consistent (which is really a dilemna to me). My instructor told me that if you cannot have a good toss, you cannot execute a successful serve. I tried tossing the ball lower than the usual but i'm not comfortable with it. Any tips? Btw, i browsed your webpage but some of the pages are still under construction. Really excited to see it specially the "LESSONS" page. Hop you can construct the page soon! Sir Edreams11, how are you now? Kumusta downloading mo?  If you have a good high toss but can not execute a successful serve, based on my experience, try this one: 1. After tossing the ball, don't let go down your tossing arm, just maintain the arm still up as if you're pointing to the ball and bring it down only if you're about to hit ball. (Note: Hitting arm should be relax or loose (dapat di matigas at di nagpipigil)).  2. Aim at the service lines(it could be the T, the L or the center line) and not the net cord.....  3. Lastly, do not be afraid that you're service goes long.... Service that go long is better than service that goes to the net because it's easily adjusted...  thanks nadale! subukan ko tips mo. pero yung no.3 mo i can relate kc my first serve is usually long... madali iadjust. maya laro kmi ni commander ians eh ma-try nga hehe sus! ganun pa din palpak pa din serve ko.. tingin ko nasa player na problema eh  Ok lang yan sir Edreams, ikanga.... we could not say we can get it right as in overnight only but constant practice is what we really need..... 
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« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2009, 08:09:11 PM » |
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HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/Hmmm...that's what I noticed too with the pros on TV their balls don't spin when they toss it. Pero yung sa akin nag-i-spin, malakas nga eh, must be the ball rolling off my fingers, para akong nagle-lay up ng basketball. Pero nasanay na rin ako, pumapasok naman ang serves ko most of the time so okay na rin siguro.  I have learned to just adjust my body na lang to the toss instead of trying to get a consistent toss. As long as the toss is in a generally good place to hit, which is above my head. 
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« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2009, 10:35:47 AM » |
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HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/Effective nga service mo bro, hope to see it again sa hard court hehe. Hmmm...that's what I noticed too with the pros on TV their balls don't spin when they toss it. Pero yung sa akin nag-i-spin, malakas nga eh, must be the ball rolling off my fingers, para akong nagle-lay up ng basketball. Pero nasanay na rin ako, pumapasok naman ang serves ko most of the time so okay na rin siguro.  I have learned to just adjust my body na lang to the toss instead of trying to get a consistent toss. As long as the toss is in a generally good place to hit, which is above my head. 
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« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2009, 11:14:52 AM » |
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HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/Hmmm...that's what I noticed too with the pros on TV their balls don't spin when they toss it. Pero yung sa akin nag-i-spin, malakas nga eh, must be the ball rolling off my fingers, para akong nagle-lay up ng basketball. Pero nasanay na rin ako, pumapasok naman ang serves ko most of the time so okay na rin siguro.  I have learned to just adjust my body na lang to the toss instead of trying to get a consistent toss. As long as the toss is in a generally good place to hit, which is above my head.  Effective nga service mo bro,no touch ace. hope to see it again sa hard court hehe.
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« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2009, 08:51:46 PM » |
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This is an article written by Vic Bradden. He outlines the common problems of faulty serving and the suggested cure for each. Enjoy!!!! Problem: Serve is too long Cure: Toss the ball a little farther in front of your body. It helps to think "forward" as you toss and "upward and out" as you hit. Problem: Completely uncoordinated Cure: Get the rhythm back into your serve by counting "1-2-3-4" like a dance instructor as you swing. Take it easy and don't rush your serve. Problem:Serve goes into the net Cure:Keep your eyes and chin up. Fasten your eyes on the ball at all times. Keeping your chin up will prevent a slouching posture that will pull down your hitting harm and the ball Problem: Lost confidence Cure: Have a friend verify your errors by charting your serves. Find the precise area of error and then go away and practice hitting targets to rebuild your confidence. Problem: Getting angry/frustrated as your serve worsens Cure: Focus your attention more closely on the ball. Try to transfer your emotions to the ball -that's the your only opponent in the serve (or better yet think of something that really annoys you very much  ).
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« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2009, 10:48:49 PM » |
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sa una sabi na different toss for different types of serve pero yung mga advance isa lng toss nila para nde alam kung anong service ang gagawin nila.
to improve your toss, try mo umupo sa chair tapos with your tossing arm eh toss a ball objective mo eh wag kang aalis sa chair o tutumba tpos yung ball try mo same spot as always. tip ni Brad Gilbert yan, hehe ginagawa din ng Bryan brothers yan hehe.
Tama eto naishared ni Fabs effective eto.Kasi dati hirap ako sa toss. One night naka upo ako infront og my computer I hold the ball and try to toss and I observe para ayus eto. So I do it many times. Then, nang magtoss ako sa practice wow ok pala effective ang nasa chair ka nagpractice ng toss mass consistent siya.Just hold the ball like holding a cup of wine with your 3 fingers.Sana makatulong.
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« Reply #60 on: March 17, 2009, 11:14:47 AM » |
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You have a good serve but you can't generate enough power? Sounds familiar di ba? I read an article from tennis mag how to create more power on your serve:
Adding a step to your serve might help. This is called PINPOINT stance. After the toss, move your back foot near your front foot to make a pinpoiint stance. The forward movement will shift more of your weight into the stroke
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« Reply #61 on: March 17, 2009, 11:56:14 AM » |
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sa una sabi na different toss for different types of serve pero yung mga advance isa lng toss nila para nde alam kung anong service ang gagawin nila.
to improve your toss, try mo umupo sa chair tapos with your tossing arm eh toss a ball objective mo eh wag kang aalis sa chair o tutumba tpos yung ball try mo same spot as always. tip ni Brad Gilbert yan, hehe ginagawa din ng Bryan brothers yan hehe.
Tama eto naishared ni Fabs effective eto.Kasi dati hirap ako sa toss. One night naka upo ako infront og my computer I hold the ball and try to toss and I observe para ayus eto. So I do it many times. Then, nang magtoss ako sa practice wow ok pala effective ang nasa chair ka nagpractice ng toss mass consistent siya.Just hold the ball like holding a cup of wine with your 3 fingers.Sana makatulong. Thanks vincentallan, it really works diba heheh. kalaban na lng natin sa toss yung hangin eh hehhe.
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« Reply #62 on: March 17, 2009, 02:35:08 PM » |
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sa una sabi na different toss for different types of serve pero yung mga advance isa lng toss nila para nde alam kung anong service ang gagawin nila.
to improve your toss, try mo umupo sa chair tapos with your tossing arm eh toss a ball objective mo eh wag kang aalis sa chair o tutumba tpos yung ball try mo same spot as always. tip ni Brad Gilbert yan, hehe ginagawa din ng Bryan brothers yan hehe.
Tama eto naishared ni Fabs effective eto.Kasi dati hirap ako sa toss. One night naka upo ako infront og my computer I hold the ball and try to toss and I observe para ayus eto. So I do it many times. Then, nang magtoss ako sa practice wow ok pala effective ang nasa chair ka nagpractice ng toss mass consistent siya.Just hold the ball like holding a cup of wine with your 3 fingers.Sana makatulong. Thanks vincentallan, it really works diba heheh. kalaban na lng natin sa toss yung hangin eh hehhe. uu hirap mag serve pag malakas hangin, even yun groundstrokes
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« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2009, 09:21:16 PM » |
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ako rin may problem sa serve ko... i should try one of these tips!! sana may effect sa akin hehe
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« Reply #64 on: July 08, 2009, 08:45:32 PM » |
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« Reply #65 on: July 09, 2009, 06:18:31 PM » |
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try mo wag i spin ang bola
eto practice
try mo dalawang bola ang hawak para masanay ka di naikot ang bola
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« Reply #66 on: July 09, 2009, 07:13:00 PM » |
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« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2009, 12:03:14 AM » |
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service problems ulet... this time kaya q na ung top spin serve pero prng nag cause cia ng pain sa ribs q sa likod... is it because of too much arching back?
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« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2009, 12:23:09 AM » |
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pain? baka di ka muna nag-stretching. kung masakit talaga, patingin ka sa doctor. IMHO, too much arching stresses the lower back.
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« Reply #69 on: October 01, 2009, 01:41:34 AM » |
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pain? baka di ka muna nag-stretching. kung masakit talaga, patingin ka sa doctor. IMHO, too much arching stresses the lower back.
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« Reply #70 on: October 05, 2009, 12:18:29 PM » |
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kailangan po ba iba ang 2nd serve mo o same pa din kaya lang alalay na lang para hindi ma double fault? 
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« Reply #71 on: October 05, 2009, 01:25:42 PM » |
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kailangan po ba iba ang 2nd serve mo o same pa din kaya lang alalay na lang para hindi ma double fault?  hahaha! hanep fabs. pag ako tatanungin mo wag mag alalay more spin at mas malakas pa. you have to trust the spin. kaso in my case dami pa rin double fault. oks lang praktis din naman yun. pag naglalaro naman tyo wala namang karangalang nakataya. pag nagrereklamo na prtner mo pakyuhan mo lang. hahaha! walang kwentang partner yun gusto lang manalo more than improving. pagkakataon ng magserve.
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« Reply #72 on: October 05, 2009, 01:27:50 PM » |
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hehe, tama tama, g*** yung partner na ganun hehehe. 
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« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2009, 05:18:34 PM » |
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pag end game sure ball na gawin yon ang sabi sa akin ni partner ayon panalo huhuhu may sakit ang service ko ngayon try ko mag bawas ng grip
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« Reply #74 on: October 06, 2009, 01:13:46 AM » |
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kailangan po ba iba ang 2nd serve mo o same pa din kaya lang alalay na lang para hindi ma double fault?  Kung titingnan natin ang mga pro, they have lot of serve. so sa ating mga beginner try to serve the topspin serve. mapa 1st or 2nd serve. dito natin i bi build yung confidence natin. then once we are consistent with the topspin serve, pwede na tayo mag aral ng flat serve for our first serve. so pag fault yung 1st serve, meron na tayong dependable na 2nd serve. my two cents lang po.
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« Reply #75 on: October 06, 2009, 08:00:37 AM » |
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« Reply #76 on: October 06, 2009, 03:22:30 PM » |
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kailangan po ba iba ang 2nd serve mo o same pa din kaya lang alalay na lang para hindi ma double fault?  instead na alalayan by hitting weaker, i normally use almost the same amount of power pero add more spin on my second serve. kung ang first serve ko ay medyo flat, pagdating sa second serve e i try na medyo mas mataas ang clearance sa net and add top-spin para malaki din ang chance na mag-dive ito papunta sa service line. the amount of power you exert may be the same, di kailangan alalayan. let the top-spin make your ball dive into the service line.
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« Reply #77 on: October 06, 2009, 05:11:53 PM » |
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« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2009, 01:05:56 AM » |
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kailangan po ba iba ang 2nd serve mo o same pa din kaya lang alalay na lang para hindi ma double fault?  Kung titingnan natin ang mga pro, they have lot of serve. so sa ating mga beginner try to serve the topspin serve. mapa 1st or 2nd serve. dito natin i bi build yung confidence natin. then once we are consistent with the topspin serve, pwede na tayo mag aral ng flat serve for our first serve. so pag fault yung 1st serve, meron na tayong dependable na 2nd serve. my two cents lang po. korek!
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« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2009, 11:21:06 PM » |
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kailangan po ba iba ang 2nd serve mo o same pa din kaya lang alalay na lang para hindi ma double fault?  instead na alalayan by hitting weaker, i normally use almost the same amount of power pero add more spin on my second serve. kung ang first serve ko ay medyo flat, pagdating sa second serve e i try na medyo mas mataas ang clearance sa net and add top-spin para malaki din ang chance na mag-dive ito papunta sa service line. the amount of power you exert may be the same, di kailangan alalayan. let the top-spin make your ball dive into the service line. thanks bro francis, mag practice nga ako ng topspin serve heheh. 
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« Reply #81 on: October 07, 2009, 11:54:17 PM » |
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