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« on: November 16, 2008, 08:35:32 PM »

I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone  please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 08:46:06 PM »

boss,baka eto makatulong sayo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8kynEzufNE  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 10:04:36 PM »

Kala ko extra service.  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 10:08:01 PM »

I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone  please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.

Hold a plastic cup and use it to toss the ball. Then catch it again with the use of the cups.  Also you could practice the consistensy of the toss by standing infront of the wall and toss it there. By that you use the wall as the guide.
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 10:15:03 PM »

sa una sabi na different toss for different types of serve pero yung mga advance isa lng toss nila para nde alam kung anong service ang gagawin nila.

to improve your toss, try mo umupo sa chair tapos with your tossing arm eh toss a ball objective mo eh wag kang aalis sa chair o tutumba tpos yung ball try mo same spot as always. tip ni Brad Gilbert yan, hehe ginagawa din ng Bryan brothers yan hehe.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 10:49:41 PM »

bro.... try to straighten your elbow while tossing to give a consistent ball toss up and place the ball on your palm not on the fingers, fingers tend to distract the ball upwards  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 08:36:44 PM »

pahingi po ng tips, para po sa kick serve, pano pocontact nun? thanks so much!  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 10:08:58 PM »

I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone  please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.

Hold a plastic cup and use it to toss the ball. Then catch it again with the use of the cups.  Also you could practice the consistensy of the toss by standing infront of the wall and toss it there. By that you use the wall as the guide.

thank you po sir!! susubukan ko yan pag naglaro na po ako...  Grin
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 10:10:23 PM »

sa una sabi na different toss for different types of serve pero yung mga advance isa lng toss nila para nde alam kung anong service ang gagawin nila.

to improve your toss, try mo umupo sa chair tapos with your tossing arm eh toss a ball objective mo eh wag kang aalis sa chair o tutumba tpos yung ball try mo same spot as always. tip ni Brad Gilbert yan, hehe ginagawa din ng Bryan brothers yan hehe.

opo sir... thank you for the tip!!
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 10:16:48 PM »

pahingi po ng tips, para po sa kick serve, pano pocontact nun? thanks so much!  Grin Grin Grin

imbis na dudurugin mo ung bola, itotoss mo sya above your head tapos ung direction ng palo mo from 7 o clock to 1 o clock ng bola... pero wag maxado manipis... katulad ng sinabi ni chino: 70% flat, 30% kaskas sa first serve at 50-50 sa second serve  Grin
pero i only know this in theory. nakakachamba lng ako gumawa ng kick serve at around 1 out of 7 attempts...  Grin
onga pla... ang kick serve, topspin serve at american twist ay iisang serve lng.
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 11:10:44 PM »

pahingi po ng tips, para po sa kick serve, pano pocontact nun? thanks so much!  Grin Grin Grin

imbis na dudurugin mo ung bola, itotoss mo sya above your head tapos ung direction ng palo mo from 7 o clock to 1 o clock ng bola... pero wag maxado manipis... katulad ng sinabi ni chino: 70% flat, 30% kaskas sa first serve at 50-50 sa second serve  Grin
pero i only know this in theory. nakakachamba lng ako gumawa ng kick serve at around 1 out of 7 attempts...  Grin
onga pla... ang kick serve, topspin serve at american twist ay iisang serve lng.

My first serve is really a flat serve. My second serve 70% flat, 30% kaskas .

For kick serve you have to accelerate your racket head in brushing up the ball.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 12:15:37 PM »

pahingi po ng tips, para po sa kick serve, pano pocontact nun? thanks so much!  Grin Grin Grin

imbis na dudurugin mo ung bola, itotoss mo sya above your head tapos ung direction ng palo mo from 7 o clock to 1 o clock ng bola... pero wag maxado manipis... katulad ng sinabi ni chino: 70% flat, 30% kaskas sa first serve at 50-50 sa second serve  Grin
pero i only know this in theory. nakakachamba lng ako gumawa ng kick serve at around 1 out of 7 attempts...  Grin
onga pla... ang kick serve, topspin serve at american twist ay iisang serve lng.
ok thnx for the tip babolaT!  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 12:16:50 PM »

pahingi po ng tips, para po sa kick serve, pano pocontact nun? thanks so much!  Grin Grin Grin

imbis na dudurugin mo ung bola, itotoss mo sya above your head tapos ung direction ng palo mo from 7 o clock to 1 o clock ng bola... pero wag maxado manipis... katulad ng sinabi ni chino: 70% flat, 30% kaskas sa first serve at 50-50 sa second serve  Grin
pero i only know this in theory. nakakachamba lng ako gumawa ng kick serve at around 1 out of 7 attempts...  Grin
onga pla... ang kick serve, topspin serve at american twist ay iisang serve lng.

My first serve is really a flat serve. My second serve 70% flat, 30% kaskas .

For kick serve you have to accelerate your racket head in brushing up the ball.
hirap sir, talagang matinding praktis kailangan, thank you so much for the infos!  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2008, 02:12:29 PM »

inconsistent toss? normally the error is coming from tossing the ball with a bent elbow! the toss should come from the swing of your shoulder going up, not from the elbow.

dapat... diretso siko! otherwise, ull be chasing ur ball toss from all over the place. mahirap un!
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2008, 05:48:32 PM »

Toss the ball like holding a bottle of San Miguel beer, check it, medyo smooth ang dating! Cool
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2008, 06:02:35 PM »

Toss the ball like holding a bottle of San Miguel beer, check it, medyo smooth ang dating! Cool

Hhehehe oo nga parang nagtotossing ng bottle of beer... cheers..... Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2008, 08:37:02 PM »

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Meron din ako nabasa, wag daw i-push yung bola upwards using yung tip ng fingers. Guide lang daw ang mga tip ng fingers natin. Power from tossing the ball upwards should not come from the wrist, it should come from the arms. Correct me if what I've read is wrong. I hope this helps.  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2008, 09:00:52 PM »

thanks for your tips guys!! i had a pretty good improvement in my serve... ngaun every other serve pumapasok!!  Cheesy Grin laugh
but now, i got a new problem... how high should my toss be and where should i toss it?? kasi now it has direction... pero alternating between net and long ung serve ko... sa tingin ko po sa timing eh... any more tips sirs? they would be greatly appreciated...
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2008, 10:24:24 PM »

thanks for your tips guys!! i had a pretty good improvement in my serve... ngaun every other serve pumapasok!!  Cheesy Grin laugh
but now, i got a new problem... how high should my toss be and where should i toss it?? kasi now it has direction... pero alternating between net and long ung serve ko... sa tingin ko po sa timing eh... any more tips sirs? they would be greatly appreciated...

Sa taas ng toss dapat pag aralan mo din kung saan ka komportable o yung nakikita mong maganda yungtama ng raketa sa bola. Ang dapat nating makuha is yung taas ng bola bago mo paluin. Sa experience ko kasi pag gusto medyo quick serve, pag toss ko pa lang at alam ko na yun yung hitting height ko, binabanatan ko na agad. pag nag toss naman ako ng mataas medyo tricky kung flat, slice o kick.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2008, 10:52:55 PM »

thanks for your tips guys!! i had a pretty good improvement in my serve... ngaun every other serve pumapasok!!  Cheesy Grin laugh
but now, i got a new problem... how high should my toss be and where should i toss it?? kasi now it has direction... pero alternating between net and long ung serve ko... sa tingin ko po sa timing eh... any more tips sirs? they would be greatly appreciated...

Sa taas ng toss dapat pag aralan mo din kung saan ka komportable o yung nakikita mong maganda yungtama ng raketa sa bola. Ang dapat nating makuha is yung taas ng bola bago mo paluin. Sa experience ko kasi pag gusto medyo quick serve, pag toss ko pa lang at alam ko na yun yung hitting height ko, binabanatan ko na agad. pag nag toss naman ako ng mataas medyo tricky kung flat, slice o kick.
oh so personal preference po pla un... thank you po sir sa tips nyo... i hope i can apply all the things you guys said... thank you po sirs!!
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2008, 11:54:25 PM »

and always practice para ma-retain sa muscle memory yung toss and timing.  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2008, 11:59:14 PM »

Toss the ball like holding a bottle of San Miguel beer, check it, medyo smooth ang dating! Cool
now i know what to imagine when im tossing for my serve. thnx!  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2008, 04:09:29 PM »

and always practice para ma-retain sa muscle memory yung toss and timing.  Grin

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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2008, 10:22:29 PM »

and always practice para ma-retain sa muscle memory yung toss and timing.  Grin
thnx so much!  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2008, 02:37:27 PM »


 hagis mo bola sa taas ng mukha mo .. tapos yung raketa ihampas mo parang bumabato ng bato ayos na yon flat bol! Wink
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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2008, 03:00:07 PM »

Kay litogarcia kayo humingi ng advise...dati walang kwentang magserve yan. pero sa pagdaan ng mga panahon, aba, akalain mo, umaabot ng 100km ang speed ng service nya...95% perfect... kaya nagun pareho na kami ng sevice...
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2008, 06:50:45 PM »

Kay litogarcia kayo humingi ng advise...dati walang kwentang magserve yan. pero sa pagdaan ng mga panahon, aba, akalain mo, umaabot ng 100km ang speed ng service nya...95% perfect... kaya nagun pareho na kami ng sevice...

Nice one smasher. Buti naman at nag post ka na. Si smasher po nag tuturo sa aking mag serve.
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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2008, 06:51:44 PM »

haha, paturo din bro lito!!!!
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2008, 08:26:18 PM »

Kay litogarcia kayo humingi ng advise...dati walang kwentang magserve yan. pero sa pagdaan ng mga panahon, aba, akalain mo, umaabot ng 100km ang speed ng service nya...95% perfect... kaya nagun pareho na kami ng sevice...

Nice one smasher. Buti naman at nag post ka na. Si smasher po nag tuturo sa aking mag serve.
diba po sa citadella po kau pumapalo?? dun rin po ako pumapalo sa mondays eh...  Grin Grin Grin ako lng po yata ung batang pumapalo dun eh...
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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2008, 09:33:16 PM »

Kay litogarcia kayo humingi ng advise...dati walang kwentang magserve yan. pero sa pagdaan ng mga panahon, aba, akalain mo, umaabot ng 100km ang speed ng service nya...95% perfect... kaya nagun pareho na kami ng sevice...

Nice one smasher. Buti naman at nag post ka na. Si smasher po nag tuturo sa aking mag serve.
diba po sa citadella po kau pumapalo?? dun rin po ako pumapalo sa mondays eh...  Grin Grin Grin ako lng po yata ung batang pumapalo dun eh...

Hinde QC Chapter ako. Novaliches area.
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« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2008, 12:55:59 AM »

Kay litogarcia kayo humingi ng advise...dati walang kwentang magserve yan. pero sa pagdaan ng mga panahon, aba, akalain mo, umaabot ng 100km ang speed ng service nya...95% perfect... kaya nagun pareho na kami ng sevice...

Nice one smasher. Buti naman at nag post ka na. Si smasher po nag tuturo sa aking mag serve.
diba po sa citadella po kau pumapalo?? dun rin po ako pumapalo sa mondays eh...  Grin Grin Grin ako lng po yata ung batang pumapalo dun eh...

Hinde QC Chapter ako. Novaliches area.
paturo pala sir lito ng serve, k lang po ba?, thnx po!  Grin
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« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2008, 12:11:28 AM »

babolat,
this is what i do as far as service lesson.one of the drills i teach.... first of all in this drill the objective is to get the ball over the net and don't worry about getting it into the service box. line up 9 tennis balls from the net to the back of the fence. start serving balls over the net by tapping the balls closer to the net over and so forth. as you get farther and farther back  you increase your racket head speed. but you are not overpowering the ball. now if a ball you are practice serving goes into the net you just repeat it until you get it in from the spot you served. you will keep going until you get to the last ball farthest from the net (which is probably the back fence) let me remind you again, this is not a serving contest. you are not serving for power. but for consistency and finesse. save the power for your matches. you do want to avoid injury to your shoulder
there's a video on fuzzyyellowballs.com . the pro, will hamilton does an excellent job explaining it and very well breaks it down on video.. so either way you can go, sabihin mo sa akin kung nag improve ang service mo.
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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2008, 10:11:41 PM »

Kay litogarcia kayo humingi ng advise...dati walang kwentang magserve yan. pero sa pagdaan ng mga panahon, aba, akalain mo, umaabot ng 100km ang speed ng service nya...95% perfect... kaya nagun pareho na kami ng sevice...

Nice one smasher. Buti naman at nag post ka na. Si smasher po nag tuturo sa aking mag serve.
diba po sa citadella po kau pumapalo?? dun rin po ako pumapalo sa mondays eh...  Grin Grin Grin ako lng po yata ung batang pumapalo dun eh...

Hinde QC Chapter ako. Novaliches area.
paturo pala sir lito ng serve, k lang po ba?, thnx po!  Grin

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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2008, 12:42:02 AM »

Kay litogarcia kayo humingi ng advise...dati walang kwentang magserve yan. pero sa pagdaan ng mga panahon, aba, akalain mo, umaabot ng 100km ang speed ng service nya...95% perfect... kaya nagun pareho na kami ng sevice...

Nice one smasher. Buti naman at nag post ka na. Si smasher po nag tuturo sa aking mag serve.
diba po sa citadella po kau pumapalo?? dun rin po ako pumapalo sa mondays eh...  Grin Grin Grin ako lng po yata ung batang pumapalo dun eh...

Hinde QC Chapter ako. Novaliches area.
paturo pala sir lito ng serve, k lang po ba?, thnx po!  Grin

No problem jov
wow! thnx so much sir lito!  Grin
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2008, 08:05:22 PM »

Hi! share ko lang paano ko nakuha yung gusto kong serve. Actually at first syempre tinuruan ako ni coach al ng proper way to hold the racquet and ball as in basic. i also learned a lot from other advanced players at madami din ako pinanuod na pro players on how they serve. so many games lost before i gain my confidence in my serve (naks parang totoo). i copied pro players pero di effective.. so in the end pinagsama-sama ko at pinagtagpi-tagpi ko every move and come up with my own serve. ok naman sya, minsan nado-double fault pero ok lang for a club player like me. I am continously practicing now with my serve kc sabi nga nila "NO SERVE, NO PLAY"
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« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2009, 08:10:31 AM »

bago pa lang ako nag-aaral mag tennis and sobra malaki problem ko kase di ako marunong mag toss  Sad but i guess mahirap talaga ang service kelangan ng madaming practice.
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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2009, 10:19:57 PM »

bago pa lang ako nag-aaral mag tennis and sobra malaki problem ko kase di ako marunong mag toss  Sad but i guess mahirap talaga ang service kelangan ng madaming practice.

there are ways to practice your toss. As what Vandermeer shows to his student, hold a plastic cup and put the ball on it. Then toss the ball and catch with the cup again. Ganyan dapat yung feel mo sa bola pag kamay na ang gamit mo.

Isan teknik naman para sa diretsong toss ng bola, tumapat ka sa wall & try to toss the ball na malapit ka sa wall. bale yung wall ang ginagawa mong guide para diretso yung toss mo.

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« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2009, 10:03:53 AM »

bago pa lang ako nag-aaral mag tennis and sobra malaki problem ko kase di ako marunong mag toss  Sad but i guess mahirap talaga ang service kelangan ng madaming practice.

there are ways to practice your toss. As what Vandermeer shows to his student, hold a plastic cup and put the ball on it. Then toss the ball and catch with the cup again. Ganyan dapat yung feel mo sa bola pag kamay na ang gamit mo.

Isan teknik naman para sa diretsong toss ng bola, tumapat ka sa wall & try to toss the ball na malapit ka sa wall. bale yung wall ang ginagawa mong guide para diretso yung toss mo.

Hope this helps.
uu nga noh, try ko nga yun, thnx sir lito!  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2009, 05:34:48 PM »

bago pa lang ako nag-aaral mag tennis and sobra malaki problem ko kase di ako marunong mag toss  Sad but i guess mahirap talaga ang service kelangan ng madaming practice.

there are ways to practice your toss. As what Vandermeer shows to his student, hold a plastic cup and put the ball on it. Then toss the ball and catch with the cup again. Ganyan dapat yung feel mo sa bola pag kamay na ang gamit mo.

Isan teknik naman para sa diretsong toss ng bola, tumapat ka sa wall & try to toss the ball na malapit ka sa wall. bale yung wall ang ginagawa mong guide para diretso yung toss mo.

Hope this helps.
uu nga noh, try ko nga yun, thnx sir lito!  Grin

Welcome haring jov.  Grin
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« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2009, 05:16:05 AM »

I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone  please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.

HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/
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« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2009, 09:15:37 AM »

Thanks for the hint on ball toss sir.

I do have a question on the racket and ball contact point. When you say, "racket should make contact with the ball on its way up", are you referring to the ball on its way up? I am happy with my service now but I normally toss it high and hit it when it's on its way down.
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« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2009, 09:48:09 AM »

I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone  please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.

HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/

Sir Pinoy thanks for the "service" tip but I normally toss the ball high so when i hit the ball with my racket, its on its way down. Right now, my service is not consistent (which is really a dilemna to me). My instructor told me that if you cannot have a good toss, you cannot execute a successful serve. I tried tossing the ball lower than the usual but i'm not comfortable with it. Any tips?

Btw, i browsed your webpage but some of the pages are still under construction. Really excited to see it specially the "LESSONS" page. Hop you can construct the page soon!
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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2009, 11:58:04 AM »

same thing with me, i toss the ball really high or on the rise ko cya kinukuha ewan ko kung tama ah, un parang serve ni jim courier. i also make sure na when i hit the ball i use my wrist and lean my body forward para malakas.

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« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2009, 12:22:14 PM »

ako for flat serve nasa harap toss ko, for slice right side, for kick medyo left side na or medyo nasa likod ko na. bow.
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« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2009, 12:27:48 PM »

dagdag ko lang, tsaka when you toss the ball dapat nasa harap mo, okies!

cge happy serving!

same thing with me, i toss the ball really high or on the rise ko cya kinukuha ewan ko kung tama ah, un parang serve ni jim courier. i also make sure na when i hit the ball i use my wrist and lean my body forward para malakas.


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« Reply #45 on: February 05, 2009, 12:41:29 PM »

I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone  please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.

HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/

Sir Pinoy thanks for the "service" tip but I normally toss the ball high so when i hit the ball with my racket, its on its way down. Right now, my service is not consistent (which is really a dilemna to me). My instructor told me that if you cannot have a good toss, you cannot execute a successful serve. I tried tossing the ball lower than the usual but i'm not comfortable with it. Any tips?

Btw, i browsed your webpage but some of the pages are still under construction. Really excited to see it specially the "LESSONS" page. Hop you can construct the page soon!

Sir Edreams11, how are you now? Kumusta downloading mo?  Grin Grin Grin

If you have a good high toss but can not execute a successful serve, based on my experience, try this one:
    1. After tossing the ball, don't let go down your tossing arm, just maintain the arm still up as if you're pointing to the ball
        and bring it down only if you're about to hit ball. (Note: Hitting arm should be relax or loose (dapat di matigas at di nagpipigil)).  Grin Grin Grin

    2. Aim at the service lines(it could be the T, the L or the center line) and not the net cord.....  Grin Grin Grin

    3. Lastly, do not be afraid that you're service goes long.... Service that go long is better than service that goes to the net because
        it's easily adjusted...  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #46 on: February 05, 2009, 01:12:31 PM »

I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone  please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.

HINT: Service toss is not really a toss. This is what I've been teaching my students, from beginners to tournament players. It's a push upward motion, in doing so the ball should not spin (this will also give you a cosistent "toss"), the length (depth) of the ball depends on where you make contact with the ball ie.,infront of your face, top of your head, behind your head. Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/

Sir Pinoy thanks for the "service" tip but I normally toss the ball high so when i hit the ball with my racket, its on its way down. Right now, my service is not consistent (which is really a dilemna to me). My instructor told me that if you cannot have a good toss, you cannot execute a successful serve. I tried tossing the ball lower than the usual but i'm not comfortable with it. Any tips?

Btw, i browsed your webpage but some of the pages are still under construction. Really excited to see it specially the "LESSONS" page. Hop you can construct the page soon!

Sir Edreams11, how are you now? Kumusta downloading mo?  Grin Grin Grin

If you have a good high toss but can not execute a successful serve, based on my experience, try this one:
    1. After tossing the ball, don't let go down your tossing arm, just maintain the arm still up as if you're pointing to the ball
        and bring it down only if you're about to hit ball. (Note: Hitting arm should be relax or loose (dapat di matigas at di nagpipigil)).  Grin Grin Grin

    2. Aim at the service lines(it could be the T, the L or the center line) and not the net cord.....  Grin Grin Grin

    3. Lastly, do not be afraid that you're service goes long.... Service that go long is better than service that goes to the net because
        it's easily adjusted...  Grin Grin Grin


thanks nadale! subukan ko tips mo. pero yung no.3 mo i can relate kc my first serve is usually long... madali iadjust. maya laro kmi ni commander ians eh ma-try nga hehe
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« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2009, 07:41:29 PM »

I always have problems with my inconsistent serve... What I hear from my coach is that i have very consistent form in my serve; only problem is my toss SUCKS... Could anyone  please give any suggestions/tips for me to have a consistent toss? e.g. where i should toss it, exercises, etc.

Also, service is an upswing motion (racket should make contact with the ball, on it's way up) regardless of your contact point. Most important is practice, don't be afraid to experiment and make mistakes it will teach you alot. http://jlasin.usptapro.com/

I make the contact on the way up when I want to surprise my opponent.

One question is why all pro's toss the ball high and jump up to serve (for power) but not hitting the ball on way up?
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« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2009, 07:05:23 AM »

sa una sabi na different toss for different types of serve pero yung mga advance isa lng toss nila para nde alam kung anong service ang gagawin nila.

to improve your toss, try mo umupo sa chair tapos with your tossing arm eh toss a ball objective mo eh wag kang aalis sa chair o tutumba tpos yung ball try mo same spot as always. tip ni Brad Gilbert yan, hehe ginagawa din ng Bryan brothers yan hehe.

Kesehoda na yung serve. Sa rocking chair na ako nakaupo, masakit na tuhod, may tennis elbow pa at arthritis na yung mga daliri ko.

Palagay ko mas epektib itong tip ni Gilbert kung umeebak ka. Siguradong di ka aalis sa chair  laugh laugh laugh
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« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2009, 07:09:09 AM »


 hagis mo bola sa taas ng mukha mo .. tapos yung raketa ihampas mo parang bumabato ng bato ayos na yon flat bol! Wink

unang intindi ko dito, e kala ko ihagis mo yung bola sa taas ng mukha tapos ihampos mo yung raketa sa mukha mo.  Grin Grin Grin Pres Addie, musta ka na dyan hehehe
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