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« on: October 26, 2008, 09:32:31 PM » |
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Would anyone recommend Luxilon strings (preferably poly) that have ALOT of spin but not that hard on the arm that can be sold in Chris Sports or Toby's? I use a Babolat Aeropro Drive Cortex Plus...
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2008, 12:09:17 AM » |
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Would anyone recommend Luxilon strings (preferably poly) that have ALOT of spin but not that hard on the arm that can be sold in Chris Sports or Toby's? I use a Babolat Aeropro Drive Cortex Plus...
I tried doing a poly hybrid (natural gut + Big banger power rough) once and it was great. Sarap sa braso. Mahal lang! Took just 5 or 6 games to snap the natural gut 0_o Now im stuck with the Big Banger XP @ 50-52lbs on a K61 90. Not too bad but not as good as the poly hybrid I mentioned above. It's [relatively] cheaper and is very durable.  Just string it lower than usual. hope this helps.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2008, 02:04:12 AM » |
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Would anyone recommend Luxilon strings (preferably poly) that have ALOT of spin but not that hard on the arm that can be sold in Chris Sports or Toby's? I use a Babolat Aeropro Drive Cortex Plus...
I tried doing a poly hybrid (natural gut + Big banger power rough) once and it was great. Sarap sa braso. Mahal lang! Took just 5 or 6 games to snap the natural gut 0_o Now im stuck with the Big Banger XP @ 50-52lbs on a K61 90. Not too bad but not as good as the poly hybrid I mentioned above. It's [relatively] cheaper and is very durable.  Just string it lower than usual. hope this helps. sir pindatri dun sa hybrid na naputol nyo, poly yung naputol?
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 03:06:12 AM » |
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Would anyone recommend Luxilon strings (preferably poly) that have ALOT of spin but not that hard on the arm that can be sold in Chris Sports or Toby's? I use a Babolat Aeropro Drive Cortex Plus...
I’m currently playtesting a set of sample strings sent by Luxilon called “Alu Power Flouro”. This is supposed to be a new “softer” type of poly that is friendlier to the arm. Perhaps you can contact renald about its availability there. Just a word about strings with a lot of spin, though. Strings do not create spins, per se. The player is the primary spin producer, i.e., the arc of the stroke, the swingspeed, the angle of the racket relative to the ball upon impact, the mass of the racket head, etc. So you might want to take these into consideration as well when you’re evaluating or comparing strings.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 09:59:08 AM » |
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may nakita po ako sa Glorietta kahapon Alu Power Flouro 1.7k.  Sir Racketwiz, does the stringbed pattern compliment the amount of spin applied to the ball? 
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 12:36:47 PM » |
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may nakita po ako sa Glorietta kahapon Alu Power Flouro 1.7k.  Sir Racketwiz, does the stringbed pattern compliment the amount of spin applied to the ball?  yup sir racketwiz can you give us an explanation about open or close/dense string pattern in terms of topspin effect because i read in some description of tennis rackets that they differ, thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 05:14:17 PM » |
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sir pindatri dun sa hybrid na naputol nyo, poly yung naputol?
Sir hindi po. hindi ko ata kayang magawa yun. Yung natural gut yung bumigay kasi sya yung nasa mains (hehe engot move on my part).
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 08:22:24 PM » |
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Would anyone recommend Luxilon strings (preferably poly) that have ALOT of spin but not that hard on the arm that can be sold in Chris Sports or Toby's? I use a Babolat Aeropro Drive Cortex Plus...
I’m currently playtesting a set of sample strings sent by Luxilon called “Alu Power Flouro”. This is supposed to be a new “softer” type of poly that is friendlier to the arm. Perhaps you can contact renald about its availability there. Just a word about strings with a lot of spin, though. Strings do not create spins, per se. The player is the primary spin producer, i.e., the arc of the stroke, the swingspeed, the angle of the racket relative to the ball upon impact, the mass of the racket head, etc. So you might want to take these into consideration as well when you’re evaluating or comparing strings. Oh yeah... Sorry about that... I meant spin POTENTIAL... 
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 12:12:56 AM » |
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sir pindatri dun sa hybrid na naputol nyo, poly yung naputol?
Sir hindi po. hindi ko ata kayang magawa yun. Yung natural gut yung bumigay kasi sya yung nasa mains (hehe engot move on my part). i see, thnx!
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2008, 01:18:53 AM » |
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Now I know. Thank you sir! 
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2008, 08:39:11 AM » |
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The conventional rule-of-thumb is that open string patterns allow the ball to sink deeper into the stringbed and have a better grip on the ball, thus increasing spin potential.
No one has really disputed the validity of this because it does seem to make sense, and published playtests and reviews basically backs this up. One has to be sure, however, that when comparing string patterns, one must take into account the head size. Even though the string patterns are similar between rackets, the spacing of strings may be different in rackets with smaller head sizes. A better comparison could be made if the rackets in question have similar head sizes, or at the very least, within the same head size category. Another thing to take into account is the string spacing. Although rackets may have similar head sizes, some have string spacings that are closer (and thus slightly denser) toward the center of the stringbed.
Personally, I don’t think there is not much of a difference between open and dense patterns as far spin is concerned. I played with the Radical, Prestige MP (98) and KBlade 98, all with dense patterns, and others with open patterns such as the Pure Drive, Quantum V1 and my current Vantage custom stick. Although there is a difference in feel, control and power between dense and open patterns, I didn’t see a considerable difference in spin in either pattern. It must be noted, however, that I am not a topspinner and I use a semi-western grip. In either open or dense patterns, I alter my swing arc to get my spins and I pretty much get the same results. If anything, I could say that dense patterns probably have the same spin potential as open patterns. If you think about it, dense patterns put more strings on the ball. A controlled test conducted to determine the influence of strings on spin revealed that the spacing of the strings does not have a significant effect on spin. Borg and Vilas were hitting spinners and Sampras was kicking serves all with tiny racket heads. So, go figure.
Conventional wisdom and published playtests notwithstanding, I believe that open patterns are better for players who use a lot of spins, not because it supposedly has more spin potential than dense patterns but because open patterns tend to help drive the ball deeper. As we know, a heavily spun ball has more air resistance and tends to land shorter. An open pattern helps to mitigate this and allows the ball to be driven deeper. But the main factor in spin production still remains to be, among other things, the swing arc and swingspeed. Without these stroke components, the string pattern would be irrelevant.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2008, 12:22:19 AM » |
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2008, 12:27:07 AM » |
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Thanks Sir racketwiz!!!
Another question, if using hybrid strings like poly and synthetic gut, where should you put the straings on the mains and crosses what string belong to the mains and also the crosses? Thanks!
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2008, 01:40:21 AM » |
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It’s a matter of preference, really.
The majority will place the poly on the mains for durability. A few players like Federer places poly on the crosses and natural gut on the mains. Durability is obviously not a concern on his part but the playability of gut is.
I would suggest you try both set-ups and see what works best for you.
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2008, 08:00:01 PM » |
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Thanks sir!!!
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2008, 11:02:44 PM » |
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Would anyone recommend Luxilon strings (preferably poly) that have ALOT of spin but not that hard on the arm that can be sold in Chris Sports or Toby's? I use a Babolat Aeropro Drive Cortex Plus...
Most polys are stiffer than your regular syn. But if limit your choices to poly, the softer models are Luxilon timo 17 and 18, babolat hurricane tour 17 and 18, and technifibre red code 17 and 18. Among the 3, only hurricane tour is not round, which might give you added spin, as racketwhiz said, its your stroke which produces spin, textured string might give you more spin or additional confidence. I have these models in stock, just text me if you are interested
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2009, 03:58:05 AM » |
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I am currently using supersense and alu power 127 spin. kung kapit ang hanap mo, try to look for alu power spin, mararamdaman mo talaga yung kapit ng bola. pentagon ang shape ng string nya, which gives you extra hold of the ball.
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2009, 11:37:26 PM » |
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nice nice. wala na akong masabi... pero nung ginamit ko pure drive cortex ni jov tumaas 1st serve percentage ko that day and nakakaproduce ako ng high kicker. di ko alam pero di sya psychological (di ako fan ng babolat). sa groundstrokes more spin (topspin, underspin) ang napoproduce ko. di ko alam pero nafeefeel ko yung spin that day at by watching the ball after contact talagang spin tlg kahit pa mumurahing taolson string lang yung nakakabit at medyo dense pattern yung stringbed ng puredrive. siguro "spin day" ko lang yun. 
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2009, 11:36:06 AM » |
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nice nice. wala na akong masabi... pero nung ginamit ko pure drive cortex ni jov tumaas 1st serve percentage ko that day and nakakaproduce ako ng high kicker. di ko alam pero di sya psychological (di ako fan ng babolat). sa groundstrokes more spin (topspin, underspin) ang napoproduce ko. di ko alam pero nafeefeel ko yung spin that day at by watching the ball after contact talagang spin tlg kahit pa mumurahing taolson string lang yung nakakabit at medyo dense pattern yung stringbed ng puredrive. siguro "spin day" ko lang yun.  sapspin day 
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2009, 05:38:44 PM » |
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I am currently using supersense and alu power 127 spin. kung kapit ang hanap mo, try to look for alu power spin, mararamdaman mo talaga yung kapit ng bola. pentagon ang shape ng string nya, which gives you extra hold of the ball.
Black code also have pentagon shape. Cheaper at P 600 only. Feels softer too
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2009, 11:58:52 AM » |
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nakapalo na rin ako sa wakas ng may luxilon big banger. ganda! yung feel malutong. chaka parang auto-in lagi sa court. haha! mahal lang kasi. 
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2009, 12:06:49 PM » |
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nakapalo na rin ako sa wakas ng may luxilon big banger. ganda! yung feel malutong. chaka parang auto-in lagi sa court. haha! mahal lang kasi.  tagal mo nang napalo yun diba
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2009, 11:08:45 PM » |
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baka sa sobrang ganda ngayon lang naala ulit yung sarap nung feel, jov pa try din next time hehe.
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2009, 11:33:00 PM » |
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nakapalo na rin ako sa wakas ng may luxilon big banger. ganda! yung feel malutong. chaka parang auto-in lagi sa court. haha! mahal lang kasi.  tagal mo nang napalo yun diba uu ang tagal na. 3 days pa lang. hahaha! full stringbed jov a. kasi dati yung nakakabit sayo mains lang e. sarap kaya.
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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2009, 12:21:24 AM » |
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nakapalo na rin ako sa wakas ng may luxilon big banger. ganda! yung feel malutong. chaka parang auto-in lagi sa court. haha! mahal lang kasi.  tagal mo nang napalo yun diba uu ang tagal na. 3 days pa lang. hahaha! full stringbed jov a. kasi dati yung nakakabit sayo mains lang e. sarap kaya. oo nga sayang, dapat di nako nag hybrid
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